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OK, now we are getting somewhere. We now pretty much agree that THE PLAN currently in place for Iraq's future is not working. By having a somewhat reluctant stamp of disapproval from the Senior Republican Godfathers, there is hope for a NEW PLAN. However if these antique politicians are proposing addendums to the existing plan..then it is just another band aid on a festuring and open wound. Just recently, I recieved a phone call from a Marine recruiter trying to contact my 17 year old son. I informed the recuiter that we absolutely supported our military and our hearts went out to the men and women of our armed services for their sacrifices. I told the recruiter that my son would be entering a junior college on a baseball scholarship and was not considering a stint in the armed forces. He ask for permission to speak to my son later. I informed him that I had no problem with him contacting my son. I also informed him that as a family, including my son, we DID NOT support the war in Iraq. It is being miss managed and was pre empted under false pretenses. If my son was to put his life in jeopardy, it would have to be for something more than the G.I. Bill or the politics of incompetent leadership. TO MY SURPRISE !! He agreed with me. What irony. What in the H#*l is going on? I'm afraid that our nation is lost and is in limbo. This administration has run out of excuses. The behavior of our congressional members is apalling. Our kids are not idiots, they know what is going on, they are not oblivious to current events. How can the new generation of this nation be responsive to a generation of government officials that are corrupt, incompetent, and downright rotten to the core. Even the military recruiters are ashamed to put out recruitment propaganda. How are you going to sell something you don't believe in yourself. My 16 year old daughter has accused my generation of ruining the future for them. She said her friends all feel the same way. That is not good for the future of this nation. How can we turn this around. We need to remove the trappings of selfishness.ie greed, power, arrogance, self gratification, lieing, and think about the future of our kids that are going to no doubt inherit this Titanic mess. We now know,(some of us always did know), that the CURRENT PLAN was not going to work. It was a pre determined facade that was built from the ruins of 9-11. You can't lie your plan into success. What the BIG question is..What should the NEW PLAN be?..and most of all... Who should Be The New Planners , a group of republican has beens, trying to patch up a sinking ship? I don't think so! By the way, I am an independent..I don't think much of Democrats either. but, at this juncture in time, Democrats are the lessor of two evils...I Koonism, approve this message!

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I will post,(Monday) what I think the NEW PLAN should be. It will be an opinion & probably a radical one at that. A hint..the constitution needs to be ammended to reflect the challenges of this new Era..and Government leaders need to be held accountable..and under constant scrutiny. They need to know who they work for, who is their Boss..the Citizens and Taxpayers of America.. Mess up...your fired. There should be in place a strong set of laws with teeth for inforcement that "any" elected official that violates the rules/laws for serving the people of the United States will have to pay a BIG price! This may include not only hugh fines but also being incarcerated with other criminals,(general prison population). No more country club prisons. Serving the public should promote Statesmenship and that needs to be incouraged, rather than to continue to provide opportunity and safe haven for criminals through public office. You know criminals come in all kinds of disguises, some even dress in suits & have college degrees from prestigious Universities, they are usually very whitty & they usually possess the gift of Gab & most all of them are loaded with tons of B.S. Prisons are full of these non political characters. Why should we expect anything less within the current Leze Faire, back slapping, good ole boy, same old/ same old, business as usual political climate of today. We need to put an end to the profession of The Civil Service Crook! Maybe if there is a strong penalty for bad conduct after elected..you won't see people running for office spending $10's of millions of Dollars on a campaign for a job that only pays moderately over a hundred grand a year. Somehow I have always had a problem understanding that kind of Logic. Why would a person spend a ton of money for a job that doesn't pay a fraction of what was spent? ..Uhm..maybe there is something else going on under the table, behind closed doors that is not in the tax payers interest? Monday I will finish my posting on this controversial subject, What is The Plan?...But for the time being...ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALLLLLL!

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The NEW PLAN..Well I would like to hold off on my version of the New Plan for U.S. policies both domestic and Foriegn. Too much happening as we speak. N.Korea, Iran ..the Iraq debacle..the corruption in congress.. the immigration delimma..the faux economy.. the national debt..our national security ie airports, marine ports, our borders..the trade deficits.. China & Russian relations with us, the Israeli issue, the resurgence of the Taliban in Afganistan..the lack of health care for 50 million Americans and counting.. record forclosures.. amongst a host of other problems. All of these things need to be examined and condensed into seperate forums perhaps. There are so many things wrong with our current policies,(Plan), that it would take a team to identify the problems and come to a consensus for a solution..I think the best Plan to begin solving these problems..is to ADMIT that we have problems on multiple issues..agree that a change is necessary, agree that the current people that are dealing with these issues are not accomplishing their mission. We must establish Goals and a timetable to reach them..staff up with the right people that can bring about success. In other words for the NEW PLAN to take place...we must get rid of the CURRENT PLAN..that is not working. We must also replace the people currently in charge of the Current Plan..that is not working and won't admit that there are problems and failures among a host of issues.
 
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Well some of the New Plan is already taking Place with The Rumsfield replacement..& the New democrat controlled Congress. Iraq needs immediate attention..and we need help from the surronding nations.. Like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Kuwait etc. We need to establish informal dialog with Iran & Syria..make them a deal they can't refuse. In the meantime..throw all the best minds together here in the U.S. and go all out to create a Renewable Energy Source, This is extremely important if we want to help stabilize the World and maybe sell our new technology abroad. We must try to make carbon based fuels obsolete, and develope a high grade synthetic non carbon based lubricant. Eventually replacing the oil companies, ( they will be forced to invest in alternative energy if they are to survive.) Next Provide for the Higher Education of all our young people if they posses the ability to learn. Our education system is too Biased and is will only be available to the Rich. That is not good, it takes a lot of common sense along with a higher education to be proficient at any endeavor. Because of the Rich's tendency to in-Breed and the soft protected adolesent years of their children..they grow to become Educated arrogant, idiots. Helath care..must be simi socialized..at least for the time Being until most of the Boomers leave the Planet. Immigration.. Shut down the Borders.. set up a criteria for citizenship.. all immigrants /illegals Must register with in 90 days or be deported at their home countries expense. ( We can take it out of trade or cut their foriegn aid.)..We must make the Home country responsible for their citizens actions..Period!!.. Gay marrage..NO!..Stem Cell research.. YES! Abortion..It's a womans Body she should make that decision for herself prior to a certain term timeline. Population control should be a matter of education and forced sterilization if necessary, say 2 children only! For the Poor and the Rich alike. Social Security..neds additional funding from lets say a type of Windfall profit tax or corporation profits. Maybe a tax on profits that exceed a corporations net worth by a certain percentage. Say 3%..If a corporations Profits are like Chevron's $10 Billion in one Quarter And Chevron's assets are over $100 Billion..then Social Security gets 3% of the profits or ..$300 Million and so on. America's working class must be elevated soon so optimism, hope, and the American Dream can be restored. with that we will get inovative thinking, better job performance, and industry & commerce will benifit in the long run. A happy & contented population is a productive one. Traditionally Democrats are for the working people of this nation. These are the people that voted out the republicans..they are not happy..forget the governments Numbers they like to brag on, it's Bogus manufactured information..like the WMD thing. Republicans scream out that taxation for welfare is the root of all evil under democrat Rule. I'm just wondering... How much money could have been put into the Social security System..medicare and the education system. If we weren't spending it all on Manufactured Wars and plain stupidity? America will correct itself, She always does, & this is one of those times correction is under way. Amen!
 
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WOW! Here we go again. War with Iran..a 3rd World War? The PLAN should now be: get the President some medical help, have him confined in the name of National Security until his term is up. He is operating on the outer limits of reality, not a place any leader with the welfare of the planet at his finger tips should be allowed to rule from. He is out of control and needs to be reigned in quickly before he does something crazy again like start another war with B.S. for a reason.
 
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Hey Koonism...what do you think about the release of this NIE on Iran that concludes that they stopped their nuclear weapons program in 2003?
 
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Well, as we have seen in the past intelligence is only accurate if it can be proven with a high degree of scrutiny. When intelligence becomes tainted and contaminated with politics, the results are... well,.. Iraq? I keep no secret that I find the current administration is an excellent example of Hypocrisy at it's finest, without realistic goals, and frankly rather ignorant almost to the point of dumb. Because of these BAD characteristics our leaders have at this particular point in history. All we cab do is assume..yes assume that the truth lies half way between what their liers are saying..and what our liers are saying. who's truth is the real truth..in my opinion neither one.. like I just said, ..both sides are leaking lies.
 
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The real truth will arrive in the form of a mushroom cloud which will be the results of the Isreali's Masad? Masaud. intelligence findings. They rarely make misstakes, their very existance depends on the truth. It really isn't up to us to wipe out Iran..the Israelies will attack with all of their arsenal when the time is right for them to do so. They may even settle some old scores with other nations in the region while they are at it..aka SYRIA, EGYPT. AFTER THE BIG NUKE STRIKE... Jewish or Kosher OIL, the oil that glows in the dark... kinda has a ring to it. All joking aside, I truly believe that if Iran does not abandon it's desire for NUKE weapons...ISRAEL will strike first with everything she has..and will also cripple any allies that Iran may have in the region, with a contengency plan to prevent any outside help from the Asian , African, or the South American Continents. Some, no doubt, will welcome it and will call it ARMAGEDDON. Whatever history will call it it will happen, I think that it is inevitable. The world, the human race will have to find a way to survive after it happens, and maybe the survivors will learn a lesson from it all..religion in large doses can be deadly. It's like the peverbial shoot out at the OK Corral...sooner or later, it was bound to happen.
 
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