You look like a GRANDMA, you dress like a GRANDMA, and on and on. Stacy and Clinton - Enough! Not everyone who is a grandma is out of style, or only dresses in frumpy clothes. We don't all wear elastic waist pants that are two inches about the waist. We don't all wear orthopedic shoes. Some of us are actually not too feeble to read, watch TV and pay attention to the world around us. I became a GRANDMA in my '40s, as did many of my friends. These constant comments that equate being a grandmother with no fashion sense and bad taste are just that - bad taste.
We are thinking the same thing! It JUST MAKES ME CRAZY when Stacy and Clinton equate bad style with "dressing like a grandma" HELLO I am a grandma and I am stylish and age appropriate. It's insulting. I watched an episode this morning and it made me cringe every time I heard them refer to bad style as grandma style. I know we are never going to change the world's view of what a grandma looks like but Stacy and Clinton take another look at what Grandma is wearing now. GRANDMA'S UNITE and stop the sterotype!!!
I agree with youm LTish. Unfortunately the term "grandma" has come to define a negative image over the years, and it's hard for a lot of people to get past that. I do think that Stacy and Clinton could use a whole lot more tact and empathy than they do. Making fun of someone because they fit an "image", whether real or imagined, is just rude. I've noticed that several posters here have mentioned the grey streak in Stacy's hair. How would she feel if an MO fired back some ignorant comment about that? Stacy is still young, but I'll bet she wouldn't appreciate the "old" reference. Her grey streak is natural, but she needs to remember she lives in a glass house.
if you're a fashionable grandmother, laugh it up. why is everyone so sensitive about their 'issues' these days? people complain about this, about why mannequins are not plus size, about saying mom jeans, come on~ if it bothers you, don't watch the show, chances are they will be saying it again and again. people are not going to stop being who they are, talk like they do to pacify You. personally i don't like censorship in any form. no thought police. they can say whatever they want.
Originally posted by ilibaby: personally i don't like censorship in any form. no thought police. they can say whatever they want.
Censorship? No, this is about common sense. Stacy and Clinton are smart enough to know that millions of grandmothers are terribly fashionable, yet they use the term in a derogatory way. Not smart.
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I agree with ilibaby. People should stop being so thin skinned. If I took to heart everything they said about teenagers, then I would not watch the show. Plus when they say "My grandma would wear this..." I think they mean that it is old fashioned. So yes, I'm sure there are stylish grandmas but just know that they are not talking directly you. Unless they say, "This looks like something (insert name here) would wear," please have a sense of humor
I did notice how not one of these grandmothers mentioned any annoyance at the ever popular term "mom jeans". Having ALL of them being moms at least once in their lives and are most probably still are.
I sure hope losing your sense of humor isn't a near definite like sight and hearing and tooth loss is as one ages. I'll tell you what, Lets have TLC remove Stacy and Clinton's sound track completely from every episode and all future filming of WNTW (and please, lets also ensure that they'll only be filmed from the neck down because they are BOTH far too pretty and that is one thing that I AM MOST DEFINITELY NOT so I find it extremely disconcerting to have to look at - Ugly People of the World Unite! - UPWU!)
(I mean, that's why we're all watching the show....to look better right? Sheesh I can hardly believe how they just openly "flaunt" their good looks like that...it's just SO cruel...and RUDE) ...and then we'll all just listen to that guy who does the voice over between transitions from ambush to studio to store..etc.. explain what the MO is wearing. Oh and.... This'll all be done while Stacy and Clinton stand beside the MO in the 360 using salad tongs in their hands to point out what the voice over guy is talking about because I seem to remember quite a fair amount of people had and still have problems with all that touching and "molesting" of the MO's that they do.
SOUND LIKE A PLAN??? lol!
Seriously. Stop trying to remove the personalities of these hosts.
P.S. Don't bother commenting to me anything that was in that Ugly People Of The World...article because I didn't bother to read it. I just somehow "magically" new that something like that would be out there on the internet.
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You know, there is a reason that people make comments using stereotypes - other people readily understand what they mean. Granted, not all grandmothers are frumpy wearers of holiday sweaters, but I'd bet my house that more are than aren't. If you're a fashionable grandmother, why get upset at the comment? It doesn't apply to you. It applies to my kids' grandmother - who is still making skirts from patterns she bought 20 years ago. The average grandmother in ths country isn't in her 40's - and that isn't what Stacy and Clinton are talking about.
Not all grandmothers dress frumpy, however, I think when they refer to "grandma" they're referring to the little old ladies who are 75 years old with blue hair and pants that are 2 inches above their ankles. When someone says the word "grandma" that's what most people seem to equate to the word. Not some 40 year old new grandmother who is still very much in style.
Originally posted by Forensicsgirl: Stacy and Clinton are smart enough to know that millions of grandmothers are terribly fashionable, yet they use the term in a derogatory way. Not smart.
I don't think Stacy and Clinton are being purposely derogatory about every grandmother in the western hemisphere when they make those remarks. In fact, I clearly remember Clinton stating, concerning a particularly frumpy piece, " My grandmother would NEVER wear *that!*" My own grandmother wore shoes with high-to-mid heels when she was in her 90s! I think Stacy and Clinton are just gently poking fun at the stereotype of the elderly woman who is terrified of anything new and has allowed her fashion sense and taste to wither away because she just doesn't want to put forth the effort it would take to stay looking current. Obviously, this is not true of every grandmother, and we all know that. It might be a bit more tactful if Stacy and Clinton would say, "This looks like it belongs to a stereotypical frumpy elderly woman!" Come to think of it, they've more than once described a subject as looking like a "bag lady" or "homeless person." If some homeless person happened to somehow be near a TV when those words were spoken, he/she might be kind of insulted. My point is (I promise there *is* one!) that, at least in my view, Stacy and Clinton are going for laughs and sometimes play on stereotypes in the process. Stylish grandmothers can laugh and shrug off such remarks, thinking, "Well, they ought to see me!"
I've known ladies in their 60's and 70's who have a great sense of style. These ladies dress modern, but age appropriate and don't have the stereotypical 'grandma' clothing that many older ladies wear. Just because a woman gets past a certain age doesn't mean she has to give up and wear sweat shirts with kittens and polyester pants with elastic waistbands.
S & C have made several comments that would be considered offensive by some. Like some have already said, the 'grandma' comment refers to the stereotypical grandmother.
Why not call less than desirable clothes (both mom jeans and granny kitten shirts, etc.) I GIVE UP clothes...saves everyones sensitivities and gets the message across..ha
Why not call less than desirable clothes (both mom jeans and granny kitten shirts, etc.) I GIVE UP clothes...saves everyones sensitivities and gets the message across..ha
That might offend people who have little to no ambition and who have given up on life.
I think people are thin-skinned too!! Come on Stacy and Clinton are a riot!! I use to sell Avon and they're always saying you look like an Avon Lady and believe me I don't look like your average Avon Lady!!
My mom, my sister (in her mid 40, who looks more like mid-late 30s), and I went shopping for a dress for my 70yr old mother. My mom was trying on a knee length sheath dress that barely hit top of her knee caps, and my sister blurted out "that's too short, at your age, the skirt has to cover all the knee"... HA! The image of an old 70'ish grandma is imprinted in most people's brain. BTW, My mom is much more stylish than my sister. If you are a grandma who is stylish, you should be happy that you are well beyond the "norm". Trust me, everyone knows when they see a "frumpy old grandma", and know one *expects* to see a stylish 70s grandma, only with extra delight to encounter one.
S+C's styles (verbal or dress) are the key differentiators from other make-over shows. Their chemistry and humor are unmatched by others and give so much oomph to the show.
Why not call less than desirable clothes (both mom jeans and granny kitten shirts, etc.) I GIVE UP clothes...saves everyones sensitivities and gets the message across..ha
That might offend people who have little to no ambition and who have given up on life.
Originally posted by catloveryay777: I agree with ilibaby. People should stop being so thin skinned. If I took to heart everything they said about teenagers, then I would not watch the show. Plus when they say "My grandma would wear this..." I think they mean that it is old fashioned. So yes, I'm sure there are stylish grandmas but just know that they are not talking directly you. Unless they say, "This looks like something (insert name here) would wear," please have a sense of humor
Yeah, that's easy for you to say, but what about thin skinned crazy cat ladies?
Yeah, that's easy for you to say, but what about thin skinned crazy cat ladies?
Hee, hee! I am an honest-to-goodness "cat lady," though I at least don't think I'm crazy, and I like fashion very much. I do love cats, and while I am a little annoyed by the disparaging remarks Stacy and Clinton tend to make about cats and people who love them, I can just laugh it off, and think, "They don't really understand what they're talking about." Back to grandmothers: On an episode that aired just this week(Lauri, I think), Lauri entered the 360-degree mirror clad in a long mossy green-with-white-flowers dress. She knew it was bad, and said something like, "I know this looks like something a grandmother would wear ..." Stacy and Clinton agreed that the dress was awful, but Clinton said, "Not all old people dress like this!" He has said on more than one occasion that neither of his grandmothers would wear some of the awful things seen in the wardrobes of some of the subjects.
Yeah, that's easy for you to say, but what about thin skinned crazy cat ladies?
Hey, I have 2 cats!
Me too! And I'm the first person to call myself the "crazy cat lady". But I have a friend who lets that name make her feel down on herself just because she's single and owns 3 cats. I hate it when stereotypes make people put themselves down. That's one reason I'd rather see those names left off of WNTW. We don't need encouragement to label ourselves.
Yeah, that's easy for you to say, but what about thin skinned crazy cat ladies?
Hey, I have 2 cats!
Me too! And I'm the first person to call myself the "crazy cat lady". But I have a friend who lets that name make her feel down on herself just because she's single and owns 3 cats. We don't need encouragement to label ourselves.
I'm single, with three [rather elderly]cats, and I just think of myself as an intelligent, compassionate person who loves cats, and knows how to take proper care of them. I'm also unmarried, but so what? Maybe no man I've ever encountered has met my standards. I think it was Ann Landers who said, "Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission."
CNo713, Good for you taking care of 3 cats...we have our hands full with one dog (lol)...BTW, it was Eleanor Roosevelt who first coined that phrase...not AL..
Originally posted by Miss_Fit: .... But I have a friend who lets that name make her feel down on herself just because she's single and owns 3 cats....
This is EXACTLY it Miss_Fit, your friend lets that name make her feel down.
Why do the people of the world with healthy self esteem have to alter their personalities to the extent that they're not even who they really are...they have to do all the work......for the people who are going to just let these silly off hand comments get to them?
Why can't the people who let these comments bother them so much do the work that's required to bolster their self esteem so they can just have it roll off their backs like CNo713 does with hardly a thought?
It seems to me that if the offended ones did the work we'd have a world full of healthy self esteem. And if the un-offended ones do the work we'd have some who felt better momentarily without the comments but still had low self esteem regardless because hearing no comments won't make that go away, and the others who are now self editing and censuring are now also suffering from low self esteem because they can't be themselves. A world where everyone has low self esteem thanks to all the work done by those who at one time had it.
lovely.
And remember, these are sincere JOKES people. "Mom jeans" and "Grandma clothes" and "cat lady" aren't exactly racial slurs...nobody was born a "cat lady" wearing "mom jeans" or "grandma clothes".
I - however - WAS BORN A REDHEADED STEPCHILD SO DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT SAYING IT!!!!! - LOL!!!!!!
Originally posted by NoBounds: just have it roll off their backs like CNo713 does with hardly a thought?
Ha, ha! I am blessed/cursed with something of an over-developed sense of humor, especially since my stroke, and this offends people, too! I just can't seem to win ... I will make "brain damage" jokes about myself, and it makes some people absolutely writhe. For example, someone will say something like, "Your face looks so beautiful; your makeup is just perfect !" and I'll giggle, "Pretty good for a brain-damaged person, eh?" I've been told many times that I'm being "rude," so I'm learning to be more gracious, and just say, "Thank you; now let's talk about your eyeshadow ..." See what I mean? No, really, I'm trying to train myself to just say "Thank you!" like a normal human being, when someone compliments me.
HA! Too funny! 
