i cut my hip length hair to jaw length in October, because i was 8 months pregnant with my second kid and didnt have the energy to care for it, being a newly separated single mom with a three year old.
There are times i really regret cutting it. It was very well cared for, no dye or chemical treatments at all....i didnt even own a blow dryer, curling iron, or a single bottle of hairspray, so it was never abused with heat or product. i always combed it out and braided it every night before bed so it didnt tangle while i slept. It was very shiny and healthy and thick.
i didnt have long hair because i was "stuck in a box" or as a "security blanket"...i had always had short hair, my whole life....and always wanted long hair, but i never had the patience to grow it out. i dyed my hair every color of the rainbow in middle and high school, had all sorts of haircuts. Finally, at age 19, after never having hair past shoulder length, i shaved my head and vowed not to cut, dye or chemically treat it again until it reached my waist. i knew it would take at least 4 years. It was an excercise in patience and self discipline to resist cutting all that time.
It WAS worth it. When i cut it, many people were really upset with me. At the time i was going through so much that all i wanted to do was sleep, though. i didnt feel like combing it all out every day and night, or waiting the hour for it to air dry before i could go to bed.
The "it grows back" thing is frustrating. Yeah, it grows back, but it will take me 5 years to get back what i chopped off...and go through some akward stages too.
There is no way to explain to a non long hair lover WHY long hair is so important to long hair lovers. Its like a tattoo or piercing enthusiast trying to explain why their tattoos or piercings are so important to them, or a bodybuilder explaining why he spends hours in the gym and eats a certain way. Different people just have different interests and preferences.
i actually plan to grow my hair back out. On my 25th birthday (end of August) i'm going to shave my head again to get rid of all the dyed parts. Then i'll start over with pure, virgin hair. It should be back to my hips by the time i turn 30.
There comes an age, I won't say exactly what age--it varies--but there comes a time in a woman's life when the Alice in Wonderland hair just doesn't work anymore. Long hair drags down an aging face and small faces can disappear behind long curtains of hair. I personally think Nick does a great job of allowing some women to keep longer hair, probably long after they should. I still believe that the contestants on this show should agree with the spirit of CHANGE the show suggests and not be so attached to their hair...it WILL grow back, for crying out loud!
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just saw one tonite (Sunday) in the marathon reruns (she was the single mother of 2-Bachelorette) who didn't want to cut her hair. Nick told her he had to cut off the damaged hair. He really gave her a lot of length and when she turned around she looked absolutely delighted. Nick had to spend a great deal time trying to straighten it, return it to its natural color (which is easier to maintain), and put some real shine into it. I thought it look wonderful!
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just saw one tonite (Sunday) in the marathon reruns (she was the single mother of 2-Bachelorette) who didn't want to cut her hair. Nick told her he had to cut off the damaged hair. He really gave her a lot of length and when she turned around she looked absolutely delighted. Nick had to spend a great deal time trying to straighten it, return it to its natural color (which is easier to maintain), and put some real shine into it. I thought it look wonderful!
yeah, I have to agree, her hair looked amazing after he was done with it. geeze, it stayed pretty darn long! And she loved it! People are just so afraid of change and the unknown. It's funny that these women are so afraid of Nick. I mean, he's in the business to make women look good. He knows what he's doing - he's not going to make them look bad.
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Originally posted by mistoffeles: Your show constantly pressures people who appear on it to cut their long, beautiful hair that they have maintained for years. Why? Just because Stacy looks terrible in long hair doesn't mean everyone does, and yet episode after episode the hosts, hairdresses and every staff member put down people with long hair and pressure, pressure, pressure them to cut it. You may have some fashion sense when it comes to clothing, but you have a collactive one track mind when it comes to cutting hair as short as you possibly can.
I don't know about some of you, but I do remember one show, my daughter-in-law and I watched, the woman did not want her long, long, hair cut at all, and Nick did not cut it, he actually walked away.
I've also seen where, I thought he should have cut the hair shorter in some cases, but because the woman was so afraid, he cut it, but only a little to take off dead ends and to shape it.
Not everyone is perfect in what they do, Nick is human, he can have a "bad-hair" day, too. So, once and awhile we don't always like the style he gives someone ... but, hey, in most cases, they go away looking far better than then did when the sat in that chair! Give the guy a break.
I've been going to a wonderful stylist for 8 years, and every once in awhile she'll give me something I'm not all that thrilled with, but then I tell her, and then she fixes when it grows out. The operative word here is "grows," it all grows back
i think beauty is subjective. but, in the end, i think we all can agree the majority of hairstyles from nick are similar. with a new season of fall fashion, hairstyles, too, need refreshing. hopefully, nick will take that into account.
Originally posted by emeraldnavy: i cut my hip length hair to jaw length in October, because i was 8 months pregnant with my second kid and didnt have the energy to care for it, being a newly separated single mom with a three year old.
There are times i really regret cutting it. It was very well cared for, no dye or chemical treatments at all....i didnt even own a blow dryer, curling iron, or a single bottle of hairspray, so it was never abused with heat or product. i always combed it out and braided it every night before bed so it didnt tangle while i slept. It was very shiny and healthy and thick.
i didnt have long hair because i was "stuck in a box" or as a "security blanket"...i had always had short hair, my whole life....and always wanted long hair, but i never had the patience to grow it out. i dyed my hair every color of the rainbow in middle and high school, had all sorts of haircuts. Finally, at age 19, after never having hair past shoulder length, i shaved my head and vowed not to cut, dye or chemically treat it again until it reached my waist. i knew it would take at least 4 years. It was an excercise in patience and self discipline to resist cutting all that time.
It WAS worth it. When i cut it, many people were really upset with me. At the time i was going through so much that all i wanted to do was sleep, though. i didnt feel like combing it all out every day and night, or waiting the hour for it to air dry before i could go to bed.
The "it grows back" thing is frustrating. Yeah, it grows back, but it will take me 5 years to get back what i chopped off...and go through some akward stages too.
There is no way to explain to a non long hair lover WHY long hair is so important to long hair lovers. Its like a tattoo or piercing enthusiast trying to explain why their tattoos or piercings are so important to them, or a bodybuilder explaining why he spends hours in the gym and eats a certain way. Different people just have different interests and preferences.
I agree with you. It is pretty difficult to explain. I think it's safe to say that for me it is not a security blanket either. I find that after I get my hair cut, I almost always want to grow it back out, though there have been a couple of times I've really enjoyed the new style. It just seems to be more like "me" to have long hair. And I've had a mohawk, 20's do, a bob with bangs, and multicolored hair. But I always come back to the long hair. But if you knew me, you'd know that I'm kind of a free spirit, so long hair suits me. In my case, I just recently cut almost waist length hair to armpit length in order to get all the layers even. It made my hair look thicker and healthier, and now I'm going to grow it out as long as I can with it looking healthy. I find long hair MUCH easier to take care of...no cowlicks or pieces sticking up. Plus it doesn't take much effort to wash and brush your hair, oil it, and braid it. The next morning....VOILA! Beautiful, conditioned, shiny, silky wavy hair. And volume to boot! No dryer, straightening iron, or massive product to deal with. That's ideal hair care for me. If I want to make sure it's stick straight, I have an iron just in case. But I don't get out much, so it suits me fine.
I will put in another vote for the "cut the danged hair" side of this debate. I have not seen a single person with long hair on the show who didn't need to have it cut and styled. I have ONE friend my age (49) who looks fabulous with her long, curly salt-and-pepper locks. The rest with long hair should CUT it already!
Pulling out the Cancer Card here - one of the most liberating experiences in my life was losing my hair. Don't get me wrong - I hated cancer, and I felt very naked without hair. Plus it took a lot of the personality out of my face to lack eyebows and eyelashes. BUT THAT ASIDE - I learned that it is, in fact, Just Hair and It Will Grow Back. Before cancer, I wore the same hairstyle for at least 8 years and I couldn't imagine wearing it any other way. Now when the hairdresser suggests a change, I am more than likely to agree - why not? I've had my hair 2 inches, and right now it is longer (although layered and styled!) than I have had it since I was in my twenties.
So, you see, it is all about me! No, seriously - the idea that we aren't sexual if we permit our hair to be cut may be symbologically interesting, but come on! Cut the ratty looking hair!
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Have any of the women with the extremely long hair ever heard of "Locks of Love" to make wig for children undergoing chemotheraphy and have lost their hair. They could make an unselfish donation to help someone.
Just wanted to clear something first: I have had long hair (down to my waist) and short hair (just below my ears)
I have to honestly say that on WNTW, I haven't seen a woman go in that had long, gorgeous hair. And I really like most of Nick's hairstyles. He is the professional here, and even if I don't like something of his, I know he chose it for a reason. Even if it means that he cut off a lot of hair. So I don't have much room to judge as far as hairstyling goes.
I had long hair for most of my childhood. My hair was really nice and thick; never dyed it or did any sort of treatment to it. I always got compliments on my hair. However, (some may find this gross) one time I got a lice infection. I didn't go to the school with the cleanest kids, so it was pretty much inevitable. I had to chop off practically all my hair. Did it make me sad? Yeah, but I didn't go on crying because it was the end of the world. Yes, I looked like a dork with my ear-length hair. (At the time, my mom didn't have enough time or money to take me to get it styled. Parents were going through a divorce) I let it grow out for a few years, and it was mid-back length. My hair is naturally black and straight, so it was really pretty. However, I decided to change it up a bit. So once again, I chopped off my hair. This time though, I gave it a nice layer style. I really liked the change and I got loads of compliments. Also, according to my friend Michael it "made me look hotter". However, I went in recently to get my hair thinned out and trimmed, and my hair stylist said that she could see me with beautiful long hair. I don't doubt that I looked good with my long hair, but I personally feel better with short hair. And I guess I look better with short hair as well. Err..it's hard to explain and I bet my post didn't make much sense at all.
Long hair may be pretty, but it fits only certain people. And I must say, I don't see why people get so sad and everything when they get their hair cut..it's just hair. My friend Rebecca had hair down to her thigh. She styled it differently each day and it was BEAUTIFUL. It really fit her face and everything. Then one day, she came to school with it shoulder length. I asked her why she cut it, and she simply replied she was tired of it. It's not the end of the world if you cut your hair, and I don't think that people should make a huge fuss over Nick cutting 'everyones' hair short. Just my unprofession opinion..
There is no way to explain to a non long hair lover WHY long hair is so important to long hair lovers. Its like a tattoo or piercing enthusiast trying to explain why their tattoos or piercings are so important to them, or a bodybuilder explaining why he spends hours in the gym and eats a certain way. Different people just have different interests and preferences.
i actually plan to grow my hair back out. On my 25th birthday (end of August) i'm going to shave my head again to get rid of all the dyed parts. Then i'll start over with pure, virgin hair. It should be back to my hips by the time i turn 30.
My saga with hair (which I have posted at length before, no pun intended) was much like yours, emerald navy. My mother always pressured me to have it cut and permed, and when I went away to school one of my first acts of independence was to grow my hair. Like yours, it was well cared for; I even went to a stylist who had trained at the George Michael salon in New York and was a specialist in long hair care. Well cared for long hair can indeed be beautiful, and there's nothing wrong with electing it if it fits your age and lifestyle. I cut mine when I was moving to a country with a lack of running water. It was then I discovered how much the hair had taken over my identity. I didn't enter a room - the hair did. It was immediately the center of attention.. The rest of me was lost.
Getting rid of the hair was both frightening and liberating. I now wear a style that focuses attention on my face and eyes, and people interact with me, not the hair. There is more attention on my body too, so I have been motivated to dress it better and lose weight.
Hair says a lot about us. It sends messages about how we see our femininity and our s*xuality, and whether we're living in the past or looking to the future. Heidi is absolutely right. There's a time in our lives when we need to get out of Wonderland.
I have only three points to make on the subject of hair:
1) There should be no hair police. I have a friend with hair down to her bottom. Though when I see her, I am frankly tempted to grab a pair of scissors and cut it to her shoulders, it is not my right to decide how she should wear her hair no matter what her age is.
2) I think some of us may be watching a different version of the same show. Many of the women that I see do not appear to be thrilled with how short their hair is cut by Nick. He can do some serious stylin' without cutting some of the MOs' hair shorter than they are comfortable with.
3. I don't care for the way that most of the haircuts that Nick does turn out even if the MO looks better than when they walked in the door. I think there are stylists all over the country that may well be able to do more flattering cuts than I'm seeing here.
There is one thing with Nick cutting long hair that is clearly damaged, weighing person down too much and just not doing anything for them. However, he doesn't have to tell ALMOST every single MO that he has to "cut a lot off". That is ridiculous! There IS a happy medium. I remember several MO's who had large faces and might have been slightly overweight. Well, by him hacking off most of their hair, he drew more attention to their heaviness instead of simply trimming their hair and choosing a cut and style that would "balance" them out and flatter them. Instead, he made them look worse! WNTW should definitely consider a new hair person for the new season. I am in tears for most of the MO's lately.
As a woman who formerly had long hair and recently had it cut, I can see both sides of the issue. I think long hair is the sexiest hairstyle for a woman (just my opinion), BUT it is also hard to maintain. Think about all of those beautiful celebrity women with those gorgeous, shiny locks. Catherine Zeta-Jones, the pussycat Dolls, etc. I'd love to have had my hair look that great. Nevertheless, those women have a slew of stylists working around the clock to make their hair beautiful. I, and most other women, don't have that luxury. Long hair requires maintenance and a great deal of work to make it look great. Nearly all of the MO's, long hair or not, do not take care of it and don't take the time to style it. I think that's why Nick gives them ultra-easy (and rather short) haircuts. Now, this season hasn't been my favorite for Nick, and I definitely think that he has been a little scissor happy and even lazy when it came to doing the hair. But, I can understand why he would want to cut long hair, especially if it is damaged and not taken care of properly.
Originally posted by christymoon: I remember several MO's who had large faces and might have been slightly overweight. Well, by him hacking off most of their hair, he drew more attention to their heaviness instead of simply trimming their hair and choosing a cut and style that would "balance" them out and flatter them. Instead, he made them look worse! WNTW should definitely consider a new hair person for the new season. I am in tears for most of the MO's lately.
I don't agree that long hair "balances" heaviness. I think it accentuates it. And I've been there.
Siepres makes a good point about the stars and the maintenance. My former stylist (the one who trained at George Michael) worked with several celebraties there. She said not to be fooled by the casual way their hair appeared to fall into these artistic touseled waves - in many cses, it was sprayed and pinnned to the max, and for a really important occasion, like the Oscars, a stylist would be standing by for touchups.
I agree that not all Nick's styles are great. I do think they're all improvements, including the notorious Natalie cut. And I can't ever remember thinking that he went scissor happy.
I don't think there's any 'right' answer to this question. Some people look better with short hair, some look better with long hair. How is it sexy when long hair might not be the best look for a woman, or what she feels sexiest in? Sexiness is an attitude within a person, and it doesn't depend on a hair style or length of hair. You either have that attitude or you don't, no matter what length your hair is. I also don't agree that short hair always accentuates a woman's weight. If I'm not mistaken, a truly great hairstyle is dependent on a person's facial bone structure, and that applies to men too. I've seen makeovers in magazines on heavier women where they went from long, straggly, uncared for hair to a sleek bob, and it absolutely transformed them for the better, despite their weight.
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I don't agree that long hair "balances" heaviness. I think it accentuates it. And I've been there.
I am not saying "long-long" hair. I am saying that in several particular instances (not all), Nick has cut the MO's hair way too short and it has only emphasized a fuller face rather than flattering her. When I say long hair, I don't necessarily mean hair past the shoulders; I mean hair that is longer than the ears. I just feel that Nick does NOT take the MO's entire appearance (face shape, body shape/size, etc) into consideration before he wields his scissors. He just cuts what HE wants, regardless.
On another note, I don't see anything wrong with someone being "attached" to their long hair. If their long hair is flattering to them, why should they be pressured by Nick or anyone else to change? Yes, trimming dead and dry ends is one thing, but why cut the long hair JUST to give a dramatic ending to the show - especially when it typically ends up looking like one of Nick's concoctions!
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Let me re-phrase what I said. There have been MANY specific instances (not all) where Nick has cut a MO's hair WAY TOO short and it has not been flattering to her face/body shape and type. When I say "long", I don't mean down to the ankles; I just mean somewhere by the shoulders maybe. It SEEMS that Nick doesn't take the MO's facial shape, body type/shape and overall appearance into consideration before wielding the scissors. It SEEMS like he has one thing on his mind, and that is what he is going to do - REGARDLESS of whether the MO looks good or not. I don't think this is fair or right. From my seat on the couch, I have seen FAR TOO MANY woman who weren't stick thin look even heavier JUST because of a poor choice of haircuts that Nick made.
To the other end, I don't think that women who enjoy long hair should be told that they should get out of their "comfort zone". Why??? Why can't they have long hair if it's becoming to them? I can understand trimming dead or dry ends. But, if the style is flattering to their them, why should they be convinced to change - or be chastized when they don't want to change?
Tonight a girl named Alicia (I think) was on and Nick cut her long hair. While the short hair looked cute, the long hair was beautiful. She was happy with the cut, which was all that mattered, but I cringed to see all that beautiful long hair gone.
While many of us will disagree with how Nick cuts hair, I think he provided the answer when he told Alicia tonight: "I think we need a radical change. You need to see yourself in a whole new way."
Keeping with the old hair style doesn't give you the chance to see yourself in a new light. And this show is about breaking out of your comfort zones.
Yes, I too don't agree with having woman cut off their beautiful hair. I mean, some people need to cut off some hair, cause it long, dead, and looks ridiculous, but if you have healthy,shiny, beautiful long hair, like Stacy for example, why not keep it that length. Not everyone looks good in long hair, and the same gos for short hair.
Originally posted by christymoon: To the other end, I don't think that women who enjoy long hair should be told that they should get out of their "comfort zone". Why??? Why can't they have long hair if it's becoming to them? I can understand trimming dead or dry ends. But, if the style is flattering to their them, why should they be convinced to change - or be chastized when they don't want to change?
I can't help but wonder if these MOs would have been nominated if they were looking good the way they were? Isn't that the whole point? Their current "comfort zone" is not helping them now, so they need to get out of it to find a better path.
I caught the end of one of those shows last night. The pretty girl with the very long, dark hair. Once again I held my breath while he was doing his cutting -- just like the MO appeared to be doing -- and sure enough, Nick didn't cut too much off. Miracles do happen. I wonder if that was because the MO was so very insistent that he not do anything drastic.
Changing to looking terrific is one thing, but change just for the sake of change...well, I'd like to see everyone here go along with that program if it were about any individual subject that means a lot to them. We all have different things that are important to us, and all for different reasons.
Oh yeah Camilla's hair! I LOVED her hair before and after. It didn't look like a bad wig, it just looked kind of like the big 60's "do". Her hair was really nice, so I think that she is a good example of someone who does have nice long hair, even if it was really long. I think most of the viewers would agree with that. I wish my hair was that thick when it got to that length. Sigh! I'm native american too, but I didn't get the "thickness" gene. RATS!
Originally posted by matthelm: While many of us will disagree with how Nick cuts hair, I think he provided the answer when he told Alicia tonight: "I think we need a radical change. You need to see yourself in a whole new way."
Keeping with the old hair style doesn't give you the chance to see yourself in a new light. And this show is about breaking out of your comfort zones.
I agree completely, Matt. Stacy and Clinton change the MOs' way of dressing their bodies in a new and beautiful way, Carmindy shows them makeup tricks they've never used before to look great, so why should Nick leave them with the dull, boring hair they came to the show with? He's doing his job, and he's not going to please every viewer. I doubt he even wants to, frankly. By the same token, I haven't loved every hairstyle he's done, but at least I understand that I'm not necessarily going to love everything any of them do. The ones who constantly whine and complain about his work ad nauseum act like it's their hair he cut and styled differently! It's not. I haven't loved every outfit Stacy and Clinton have suggested for an MO, but I don't demand the show find new stylists, for cryin' out loud! The complainers need to leave their comfort zone for once!
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Here are a few examples of women that are a little bit older that I think look good whose hair is (currently) on the longer side:
Jane Seymour Finola Hughes Cheryl Crow Beverly Johnson Cheryl Tiegs
I had to laugh at this one because, with the exception of Crow, who is only 40 and doesn't belong in the 50+ crowd, these women are regarded as world-class beauties. They still have fabulous faces and figures and two were top models. The fact that long hair looks good on these beauties does not mean that it's right for the average 50+ woman.
I agree with a lot of the people that have posted that not many of these women had hair styles to die for in the first place.
I always watch them get upset and think "why even be on a show about changing your image if you don't want your hair done?" Hair grows. I could see a good argument for keeping hair that was pretty or in good shape but can you really say that more than a handful of people that have appeared on this show had beautiful hair? I personally would say no. I see too many women with long hair that look like it hasn't seen a brush in a week. Or look like they have fried about 3 to 4 inches of it with constant color and styling. They look more like cousin It and less like a stylish woman. And I really don't understand women that have long hair and then wear it in a ponytail all of the time. What's the point of long hair if all you are going to do is wear it up? Many times I have silently urged Nick to cut more off than he does, lol.
I also think that many of these stars that have beautiful hair not only have the help of stylists, but extensions. Thousands of dollars worth of extensions. All of us would have good hair days if we could afford to have a stylists prep us every morning. When you see candid shots of these women, they rarely look as good as when they are 'done up'.
I guess that because I have had all kinds of hair styles/colors, from an inch in length to pink highlights, it isn't a big concern to me.
I do have to say that I get many, many more compliments when my hair is short than I do when it is longer.
I am not trying to be argumentative or insulting so please don't take my post in that context. Just giving my 2 cents for what it's worth.
it's good to have varying opinions, and i like that this forum allows you to voice them without backlash or hurt feelings. personally i don't know why goldie hawn is thrown into the mix of women who look great. she's had the same look for decades, her hair looks unhealthy, overly processed and not *neat*. it all depends who your personal heroines of beauty are. i think iman is gorgeous. claudia shiffer has not aged well. both have long hair. demi moore looks amazing, but she's cheated repeatedly. i think when a woman's hair is too short, unless she has the gorgeousness to pull it off (annie lennox) it can detract more than add.
...personally i don't know why goldie hawn is thrown into the mix of women who look great. she's had the same look for decades, her hair looks unhealthy, overly processed and not *neat*...
I didn't say Goldie Hawn looks great, nor did I mean to imply that; my point was that she's an older woman who has clung to her long hair, as the women listed in the post before mine have.
3kittymama, my post just happened to follow yours, it wasn't a continuation or a reference to yours, i'm sorry if it appeared that way, it was just an observation from hearing/reading in other venues how fantastic she looks. other than keeping her shape (until recently) i think her style ages her. not everybody looks good in long hair, like women with a long face (there was a makeover a couple of weeks ago, a smoker accountant who had long blonde hair that just hung on the sides of her face with no bangs, and she looked older, it dragged her face down even more) they shortened her hair, layered it, added bangs, voila~lovely woman.
oops i just read that i used a "trigger word" on my former post, which is why it didn't take. i'm sorry, there's probably going to be a double post, and since i have no idea what word i could have used...i may never be able to reply to this topic since it happened twice! ;p
Here are a few examples of women that are a little bit older that I think look good whose hair is (currently) on the longer side:
Jane Seymour Finola Hughes Cheryl Crow Beverly Johnson Cheryl Tiegs
I had to laugh at this one because, with the exception of Crow, who is only 40 and doesn't belong in the 50+ crowd, these women are regarded as world-class beauties. They still have fabulous faces and figures and two were top models. The fact that long hair looks good on these beauties does not mean that it's right for the average 50+ woman.
I don't believe Fionola Hughes is on the other side of 50 yet, either. But more importantly, I'm willing to bet all of these older women with the longer hair have it regularly thinned--meaning a lot of the bulk is removed so the length of the hair doesn't weigh them down. Most of the women who have had longer hair haven't had that happen. I have one friend who insists on wearing her hair long--left overs from her divorce--and it ages her greatly, but she won't listen to me when I tell her.
And going back to the title of this thread, most of the women who Nick urges to cut their hair, it isn't beautiful. It's damaged, it's too thick, it's fried and frizzy, and detracts from the woman--we see more of her hair than her.
i don't like sheryl crow with her newest look. her hair and skin tone are competing with each other, it's too similar, and it makes her look washed out.
3kittymama, my post just happened to follow yours. it was not a reference at all to what you were saying, just making an observation based on listening/reading over venues. i've heard other women say she looks fantastic, while i think she's in a time warp circa 1986.
3kittymama, my post just happened to follow yours. it was not a reference at all to what you were saying, just making an observation based on listening/reading over venues. i've heard other women say she looks fantastic, while i think she's in a time warp circa 1986.
That's OK; I think she looks hideous. Her hair always looks like she just rolled out of bed (and not in a good way! )
Stacy looks great in long hair, and the show is not based on what Stacy does anyway. Unless you're trying to say that Stacy does not have long hair, which makes no sense, because she does.
If you're strictly referring to waist-length hair, well, the fact is that 99.9999% of the time, waist-length hair looks bad. The ends are usually dull and damaged and full of split ends that run up the shaft from not being trimmed enough, there is no movement or life whatsoever because it all just hangs down the back, it's completely flat and limp at the top because of all the weight at the bottom. and unless you're very tall, it's overwhelming. The idea that long hair is somehow instantly beautiful is really old-fashioned. Very few women can have long hair like that, and even so, just because you can doesn't mean you should. The basic problem with ultra long hair is that even when it is healthy, there is no style or shape to it. It's boring. I have also seen a lot of ladies who SAY their hair is healthy and virgin and well-maintained, but the simple fact that it has been exposed to the elements is enough to dull it out and ruin it. I am kind of confused when long hair people claim it's not a security blanket. If it isn't, then why are you so attached to it and dependent on it?
The only person who I have seen come on this show with pretty, healthy looking long hair was Camilla, and her hair wouldn't have been healthy for long if she continued teasing it. Even so, Nick didn't cut off a mountain of her hair. He still left it quite long and she and her hair looked beautiful. I'd say 90% of the time, the reason he cuts long hair is because it simply isn't healthy. The hair he cuts is not hair that has been lovingly cared for. It has just been neglected.
I'm a little miffed seeing all the posts ripping on Nick lately. I don't think he does the same thing on everyone at all. I have seen him leave hair to the bra strap, to the shoulders, to the chin and shorter, and everything in between. What else do you expect him to do? A mohawk? Those are the basic length choices you have.
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I have long hair and it took so long to get it where it is that I would never in my life let anyone near it. I would cry it got cut off. Keep our long hair women are supposed to have long hair.
i now have it longer and will go darker. it already is a bit darker, but because of the highlights the color has washed out considerably. time for a re-do!
Originally posted by ilibaby: i use my hair as a major accesory. i constantly change the color, cut, style, and like to go from one extreme or the other. in may 2006 i had it short, no bangs and dark: http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/ileana65/00840008.jpg
i now have it longer and will go darker. it already is a bit darker, but because of the highlights the color has washed out considerably. time for a re-do!
ilibaby, I'm like you. I've always viewed my hair as just another accessory. I've had it shoulder length (which it is right now), 1 1/2 inches all over, and had 12" extensions when I wore it in braids. As far as color, it's been purple (my younger years), auburn, and it's natural color, which is black. I've worn it in it's natural state using styles that took advantage of the natural curls and kinkiness and relaxed (current state). As I've said previously and others have said, it's hair, it will grow back.
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hi, qvcdiva! this is easy to do when you have a great stylist whose work you love and hands you trust! ;p when i was in my 20s i got a haircut that was sooooo horrendous i didn't cut my hair for years after that. my hair was so short and with short layers i swear my head looked like a q-tip. (these were the days before good products and all you had was mousse) the shoulder length bob was my go-to style, but gosh then it was so bo-ring. heck i was 30 before i colored my hair, 2 years ago i tried bangs. then something unleashed my inner chameleon and poof! now you see me, now you don't. i really enjoy looking for my "new look".
I have just been skimming, so I am only voicing my opinion. If I repeat what somebody else said, or miss a point, I aplogize ahead of time. I have long, beautiful hair; have had since I was old enough to take care of it myself. Up until that age, my mom, made me wear it in a "pixie" cut, and my name being Erin, people thought I was a boy (not many girls named Erin in the '60s, regardless of how it's spelled. People called me Irwin). I hated it. I have only had short hair a couple of times since, and always have let it grow out, even though others have thought it was attractive. For some of us, our hair isn't just about looks. It's tied into a lot of emotional mish-mash and has some personal meaning. I take very good care of my hair, and believe it or not get it trimmed at Cost Cutters. It is in blended layers with side bangs, so that it frames my face when it is down, but long enough to put back when I need it out of the way. If I were on the show and Nick tried to cut my hair, I'd probably take it and throttle him.
Whch brings me to another hair peeve about the show. They always want to color peoples' hair too. Now, I like the color of my hair. It's honey blond, just like my great-grandma's, and the color links me to my heritage (everyone loved her hair). I wouldn't let them color it. It's got beautiful natural highlights, it's shiny, and well, I love it. I haven't seen too many people who stood firm about not coloring, but I give Kudos to the rocker girl (couple years ago, don't remember her name) who had hair color similar to mine, that said, "no way!"
On the other hand, I do like most of the hairstyles that Nick gives the women, and if their hair is unhealthy, or the wrong color for their complexion, or an unattractive or outdated style (like a mullet, or big bangs) then it needs to be taken care of. And for most of us, hair grows back. So if you don't like a short cut, grow it back!
I think that Nick does a great job on 99% of all of the hairstyles that he's done. I can only remember one specific show where i thought that the hairstyle that Nick chose for the MO was a step backwards.
Now, if you want to talk about Carmindy's make-up, that's another story. If it was up to her, everyone would look like "cake face" i.e. so much make-up that it looks "caked on". Then again, many of the candidates have less than even skin, so i guess she works with what there is to work with.
Wouldn't it be nice if they could teach these people that much of their "beauty" and "glow" comes from within? Dressing better, having a fancy hairstyle and putting on a bunch of make-up isn't going to do too much for someone that doesn't eat healthily and lacks self-confidence.
I am so glad to hear I'm not the only one that thinks the hairstylist needs replacing. I love the show , watch it a lot, and have been in the 'business' for 20 years. I have NEVER liked any haircut he did. Love Cormondy. She's good.
This is actually why I joined this site. I am glad to see that so many women have picked up on Nicks really, really, poor results. He either needs to pick up his game or get a new job. What he does is really quite typical of the "Kwik Cut" mentality. I was quite proud of the woman who refused to let him cut her hair and I was appalled when he chopped off the dreads of that woman from San Francsico, not because he cut her dreads off..that was of course necassary but he did an awful job of hacking them off and nothing for the hair she had left. I couldn't see the point of weighing her dreads like they were in some operating theatre, and then he didn't so much as put a few highlights in to frame her face. Has he not heard of extensions either? Terrible. The poor girl was in shock and rightly so.
Now, he just cut off Courtneys beautiful length, complaining that it hung straight down her face, but he did little to actually cut a frame around her face, he just removed the length and it was not especially damaged. Point not taken. Stacy's hair is longer than hers now!
One of the nicest things a hairdresser ever did for me was after I had a stroke. I hadn't seen a hairdresser for over a year and I had hair that was in truly terrible shape, but it was longer than it had ever been. It had been bleached blonde but it was grown out about 4 inches of brown mixed with grey roots.
She evened out my color by dying it all brown and then highlighted it with 2 shades of blonde around the top and sides. Then she cut a beautiful shape around my face but she left most of the length. Then she gave me a hair smoother product that makes my hair look and feel like silk. My husband said I looked 10 years younger. I've kept it long. There are plenty of products on the market that smoothe split ends and a good shaping can make them almost vanish, does Nick not know this?
Now Natalie tonight had a fairly narrow forehead but he cut thick, straight bangs on her that really didn't look good. A nicely shaped, open sort of spiky bang would have looked so much better.
Nick, what is the deal? Leave the ladies with length!
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Originally posted by sydneylovesed: I am so glad to hear I'm not the only one that thinks the hairstylist needs replacing. I love the show , watch it a lot, and have been in the 'business' for 20 years. I have NEVER liked any haircut he did. Love Cormondy. She's good.
I agree and from the view count of this thread many people must be bothered by his lack of vision for cutting hair to make the person look cute, not older. however, some ethug self proclaimed moderators can't stand when "newbies" don't agree with their love for the worst haircuts ever filmed.
Originally posted by jo-mi-sc: I was in the supermarket one day and I was walking down the greeting card isle. >snip> This is no exageration, her hair was completely down to her ankles. It was absolutely gorgeous. This was a few years ago. She was probably the envy of the whole store.
I just had to respond to the idea that she would have been "the envy"....project much? I would not have envied her a whit. I probably would have felt sorry for her lugging all that around.
Originally posted by jo-mi-sc: I was in the supermarket one day and I was walking down the greeting card isle. >snip> This is no exageration, her hair was completely down to her ankles. It was absolutely gorgeous. This was a few years ago. She was probably the envy of the whole store.
I just had to respond to the idea that she would have been "the envy"....project much? I would not have envied her a whit. I probably would have felt sorry for her lugging all that around.
What makes me uncomfortable with the observation of "ankle length hair" is that that is what you noticed. You didn't mention how it framed her face or set off her body shape; you noticed her hair first and most importantly.
I am sure it was lovely and she, and anyone else, has the right to wear it the length they wish, but isn't the hair suppose to compliment you, not BE you?
"What makes me uncomfortable with the observation of "ankle length hair" is that that is what you noticed. You didn't mention how it framed her face or set off her body shape; you noticed her hair first and most importantly.
I am sure it was lovely and she, and anyone else, has the right to wear it the length they wish, but isn't the hair suppose to compliment you, not BE you?"
Wouldnt the same apply to someone with amazingly beautiful eyes, or an unusually beautiful face? Or someone who was especially tall...Or a body builder with incredible muscles and a perfect body? Some people have outstanding physical characteristics that get noticed first. A girl with naturally bright red hair is always going to be "the redhead"...Someone else is always going to be "the thin girl" because shes thinner then everyone else. What is so bad about being different or being noticed for something unique and special about your physical appearence?
