First of all, Lynn made it extremely clear that the reason she went on the show was because she had no clue how to dress herself given her height. Even Stacy and Clinton had a hard time finding clothes for her. They would find something, and it wouldn't fit. They had to alter several things. I don't know how someone who actually watched the show wouldn't know why she went on. The show is What Not to WEAR, not How Not to Do Your Hair. I believe that her height and build were a challenge to Stacy and Clinton, and I feel they really shined as true fashion talents to fit today's fashions on someone who is not only 6'1" but also has hips.
Second, there are church organizations who believe in uncut hair. I no longer believe that way, but I grew up that way. The conservative spectrum of those (like my parents) beliefs say that trimming your hair is a sin. It comes from the verse about rather it be shaven than shorn. That's going from old memories, but it is just a couple verses from the one already mentioned about women having long hair. Many people believe that "shorn" means scissors touching it at all, which includes trims. I understand why most of you would not believe that, but we have freedom of religion. It is a cool feature of being American. Lynn is entitled to believe that. If Nick were more versatile, he would understand how to do long hair hairdos as well as using scissors to mold styles. I don't think in a free country that religious beliefs should mean someone isn't allowed on a fashion show.
Third, I think I will scream if anyone says anything else about donating to Locks of Love. Aside from the constant mention of cancer when most of their donations are to alopecia patients (permanent hair loss), it is just the dumbest thing to say about someone who wants to keep their hair. LoL has plenty of hair donations from people who decided they do not want it that they do not need extra donations from people who want their hair. Read up on the numbers (right on LoL's site) before making ridiculous statements like that. Also, it would be a very selfish cancer patient who would begrudge somebody their long hair just because they are bald. If the person wants to give it up, that's fine. I had very long hair (to my hips) when I was diagnosed, and I did my bald time. I can't ever one time remember having a thought, "Gee, I wish someone who loves their hair would cut it all off for me." I thought losing all that hair s-----, so I certainly wouldn't expect someone else to do it. As it has been mentioned here several times, hair grows back. What most of you haven't put any thought into is how long it takes. Ask me. I had whiskers start poking through December of 2003, and my hair is not quite touching my bra strap today. If Nick would have cut her hair, Lynn would be looking at two years before it reached the length it was before.
I do agree that Lynn should take better care of her ends, but there are ways to do that without chopping. A lot of people in the church group that I was raised in have products they use to make split ends look healthier. There's a thought for ya, Nick! Suggest products that would help.
Anyway, the logic of this thread is non-existent, so I had to throw some in here.
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I was really surprised with this episode. She nominated herself, and obviously had an idea of what was going to happen on the show, but then refused to particiapte in the full process. She is in desperate need of a haircut. Her ends looked dead and her hair looked dull and lifeless. I can't imagine not cutting my hair ever. Regular trims are so important to the health of your hair. I don't blame Nick for being aggravated.
People please stop recommending that scam "charity" Locks of Love. They SELL most of the hair they receive. Don't believe it ? Check out their own website.
They've helped "over a thousand children" in the ten YEARS that they have been in existence. That's about a hundred wigs a year. Their own website states that they receive 2000-3000 hair donations each WEEK. So where is all the hair going ?
The hair is sold to the fashion industry for extensions or ends up on EBay for hair fetishists. Don't believe it ? Go to EBay and type in "Human Hair ponytail" and check out all the hair that people donated out of the goodness of their hearts being sold ! http://search.ebay.com/human-hair-ponytail_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8
Incredible ! This SCAM "charity" needs to be shut down. They make a handful of wigs each year, sell the rest of the hair and pocket it.
I'm so mad about this show! I think the clothes should have been taken back since Lynn did not cooperate---that's what the "deal" is when they get the $5000; they turn over their mind, body and wardrobe.....IT'S PART OF THE DEAL! TLC needs to stick to the bargain--fans would be totally behind them.
I also feel that Lynn should have cut her hair, mainly because she did nominate herself, so she should have been willing to go for the FULL makeover. It has nothing to do with beliefs -- she knew the show, what they did, she wanted to be on it -- at least get a very badly needed trim! And I do think Nick was very nice about it. But you know what -- it's her loss -- she missed out on a great opportunity for the sake of her "beliefs" which may or may not be religious, but it doesn't really matter. The sad part is that she took someone else's place who would have been thrilled to go through with the whole thing, and that's what upsets me ...
As for the religious argument, unless she has a different faith than her family, just take a look at her younger sister. She had much shorter hair which had been stylishly cut. So that argument goes right out the window.
When Nick suggested cutting her hair, he wasn't going to give her a bob, but but take off about 5-6 inches of dead, frizzy hair. Had I been Nick, I would have told her that I have spent years studying all aspects of hair, including keeping it healthy and her hair wasn't healthy, and my recommendations were based on fact, not just person preference.
She was a very arrogant woman. Who does she think she is? The female version of Samson, and Nick was Delilah?
I really did not understand why Lynn did not let Nick style her hair.Nick is a great stylist. It would have made a dramatic difference on her. I just know when you go for these type of makeovers, a change to the hair is obvious... I think they should of chosen someone else who was 100% committed to the whole experience. She looked better. I'll give her that as far as clothes go.
Hi everyone I joined today just to answer this topic. WNTW has changed my life. I mostly no longer dress like a frumpy Librarian. I now wear clothes that flatter my size 8 43 year old body. I still do have some of my comfortable frumpy "teacher dresses" but if I were to be on the show I know that I would have to give them up.
I was VERY disappointed with last nights episode. IMO if she is headed towards a professional degree (Masters) she needs a more professional look. Long hair really ages some people. I thought she actually looked older than I do. Great lite makeup and a stylish cut can take years off of your look.
I too was very dissappointed in Lynn. Don't they make the participants sign some agreement before handing over the $5000 credit card? She nominated herself, she knew what to expect. And her hair was awful. She might have turned out to be one of the best makeovers if she had just gone for it. Her loss.
Originally posted by starla_peveler: I have never cut my hair. I am 20 years old and MY hair is not lymp, stringy,or dead. Her hair was gorgeous.
Long hair at 20 is a very different thing from long hair at 35. A woman over 35 in *most* cases should wear a shorter style. It's more flattring to the face.
And, yes, I realise the in many cultures of the world, long hair presents differently, but this woman was as WASP-ish as they come. In her case, the long hair aged her and dragged down the contours of her face (which is why I cut mine. I'm 43 in April).
" Had I been Nick, I would have told her that I have spent years studying all aspects of hair, including keeping it healthy and her hair wasn't healthy, and my recommendations were based on fact, not just person preference."
Nick is a stylist. His paycheck is from making hair look trendy and interesting, not neccicaryly healthy. Healthy hair isn't fried by heat-styling (and yes, heat styling does fry) or drowned in dyes and chemicals like the ones I'm sure he uses every day at work. Style and health are two comepletely different things.
She did come on this show to get help with her style, and clothing-wise I'm sure she did, but some things about people are very important to them. Long hair can indeed be one of them and it can be beautiful. It doesn't have to be cut short on everyone.
I would love to see some more people walk off that show with long hair. If they want a change of style, bring out a talented stylist who can "style" instead of just "cut". Let's see seom fancy updos, let's see some creativity for the long-haired beauties out there instead of just critisism.
An updo is for a special occasion. Do you go grocery shopping with an updo? And doesn't a pony tail get a little tired??
Yes, actually I do. What's so crazy about a nanny having her hair up away from her face and eyes? A simple updo takes about thirty seconds. It holds and looks good.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ruzika: What's so crazy about a nanny having her hair up away from her face and eyes? A simple updo takes about thirty seconds. It holds and looks good.
It's not crazy. It's just not modern or chic. It looks dated and matronly.
Long hair can indeed be one of them and it can be beautiful. It doesn't have to be cut short on everyone.
No, hair does not have to be cut short on everyone ... but I hardly call cutting 6 inches of dead, nasty, limp hair off of someone head , and they will still have mid to lower back length hair short.
"Long hair" doesn't ONLY mean hair that's past your waist. Plus, there's not only long and short hair ... there's also medium length hair. But the amount of hair that Nick wanted to cut off would have still left her with extremely long hair, and MUCH healthier and prettier. And Nick doesn't just blindly cut off people's hair to make it short ... I've seen more long and medium length hair coming out of that chair than short.
And I don't think that it was a religious thing with Lynn ... I think she just wanted to take a stand, so she could show the world how strong willed she is ... I mean, if it goes against her religious beliefs to cut her hair, then how come she allowed Carmindy to trim her eyebrows? Shouldn't she let THOSE grow out as well, if she doesn't believe in trims?
Originally posted by madison63: If she such religious convictions, then don't nominate yourself for a show that requires you to cut your hair.
I thought the point of the show was to get money to buy new clothes. When did they say you had to get your hair cut?
Haha! I agree with beastar! When DID they say that? I'm pretty sure the main theme of the show is what not to WEAR not how to wear your HAIR. Sounds similar, I know.. but no.... -_-;
I too was disappointed, not in WNTW, but in the FACT that this IS a fashion theme based show, BUT it IS a "total makeover" show AND Lynn did "NOMINATE HERSELF". Those two things are the bottom line. I mean at the very beginning, b4 they hand her the $5,000 credit card, do they not say, "you have to hand yourself over to us"??? When she accepted that $5,000 credit card in her hand & Lynn said yes, that was it! IMO. I mean she would not let Nick touch her hair, then she flat out told Carmindy she still wasn't gonna wear makeup/keep the look up, she just wanted to see what she looked like made up one time. I dunno, I have different thoughts & opinions about that one. I have nothing against Lynn and there's nothing that can be done now, but she shouldn't have nominated herself and/or she shouldn't have accepted the Credit Card and agreed to turn herself over to them. Hopefully, this will never happen in the future again.
I have NO PROBLEM w/her beliefs at all. As a matter of fact, I commend her for her beliefs, I'm sorry, but the fact is if she had those kind of beliefs she should have NEVER nominated herself to be on the show in the first place, especially when there are tons of women out there who would "HAPPILY" turn themselves over to Stacy, Clint, Carmindy and especially Nick! Me for one...HELLO!!! I felt uneasy just watching that show, I can only imagine how Stacy, Clint, Carmindy and especially Nick felt.
Sorry WNTW.
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I felt uneasy just watching that show, I can only imagine how Stacy, Clint, Carmindy and especially Nick felt.
After thinking about this WAY too much, I think there was much more conflict between Lynn and the experts that was not (I'm sure for time reasons) shown to the viewers. Everyone seemed "off" and much more subdued than usual. Oh, to have been a "fly on the wall". I did love it when Stacy, obviously out of frustration, blurted out "What are you, Amish?"!! IMO she tied Nick's hands. She wanted things HER WAY and ONLY HER WAY. He disagreed, and just like a parent dealing with a child, let her suffer the consequences - deal with the hair on her own.
Not to belabour the point, Ruzika, but an updo with a casual outfit looks inappropriate, the same way braided pigtails are in appropriate for formal dress. They just don't go together.
The show is not just about getting new clothes, it's about updating your look, understanding the nuances and the theory behind style (patterns, fit, cut, fabric and suitability) and putting it all together to create a stylist, updated, appropriate look for the life you lead. I'd really have to give the Nanny a 4, at most for her efforts.
Originally posted by ruzika: Really? I think it looks classic and sophisticated.
There was nothing classic or sophisticated about that hair tied to the back of her head. Not even to trim some of the straggly stuff at the ends was just sheer pig-headedness.
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[quote]Not to belabour the point, Ruzika, but an updo with a casual outfit looks inappropriate, the same way braided pigtails are in appropriate for formal dress. They just don't go together.quote] This shows how little you know about updos. There are tons of choices ranging from around-the-house casual to wedding-day fancy. It's a matter of knowing how to do the ones that look good on you as well as fit the occasion, and that (from what I gather) is what she wanted help with. If Nick claims to be a great hairdresser yet can't teach anyone with long hair to style without chopping he's obviously failed at that portion of his "art".
Have people walked off with long hair? Personally I don't consider shoulder length long, and in some cases I don't even consider bra strap length to be long. My taste, like hers, leans towards long hair, and while this show is about updating people and helping them find a better style it has no right to disregard someone's wishes so rudely as some of you on here were hoping. TLC did not have to complete this episode, they did not have to air it, but they chose to. People watch it and then come on here bitching about a wasted forty-five minutes of life? No offence to you but if if "quality life" is a good episode of WNTW then you need more help than any style challenged gal they may have on the show. If you don't want to risk wasting a precious hour of your life with tv you may or may not like then either change the channel or get off your couch and do something else. I am tired of seeing this BS "wasted-time" comment around here.
I am not dissapointed in the show, but I am disapointed in the complete lack of decency and respect for others that people on this board seem to show. Go ahead, say you didn't like her look, it's opinion and you're entitled to it, but there is no need at all to be so critical or nasty towards her simply for making a decision.
I think it was great that she came on the show and did learn the right things to wear and that she can look good and be comfortable at the same time. I'm glad they got her out of the 80's tapered pants and into better clothes.
I think it is sad that she did not let Nick atleast trim off the dead ends. If she truly loves long hair she should know that by trimming it and keeping it healthy will allow her hair to grow longer and faster.
I find it sad that so many women feel that they need to have long hair to be feminine. There is so much more to being a woman then what your hair length is.
I do not think Nick was harsh with her at all, I think he was honest, as he should be. I think he was disappointed because he knew how good he could make her look with just a simple trim.
...People watch it and then come on here about a wasted forty-five minutes of life? No offence to you but if "quality life" is a good episode of WNTW then you need more help than any style challenged gal they may have on the show.
Right on!!
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Originally posted by kctool: I too was disappointed, not in WNTW, but in the FACT that this IS a fashion theme based show, BUT it IS a "total makeover" show AND Lynn did "NOMINATE HERSELF". Those two things are the bottom line. I mean at the very beginning, b4 they hand her the $5,000 credit card, do they not say, "you have to hand yourself over to us"??? When she accepted that $5,000 credit card in her hand & Lynn said yes, that was it!
I have nothing against Lynn and there's nothing that can be done now, but she shouldn't have nominated herself and/or she shouldn't have accepted the Credit Card and agreed to turn herself over to them. Hopefully, this will never happen in the future again.
I have NO PROBLEM w/her beliefs at all. As a matter of fact, I commend her for her beliefs, I'm sorry, but the fact is if she had those kind of beliefs she should have NEVER nominated herself to be on the show in the first place, especially when there are tons of women out there who would "HAPPILY" turn themselves over to Stacy, Clint, Carmindy and especially Nick!
I felt uneasy just watching that show, I can only imagine how Stacy, Clint, Carmindy and especially Nick felt.
Face it, the real dissapointment on this show was NICK. When nominating she says she wants to get a style of clothing and "see what styles Nick can come up with for her long hair"
Well he failed miserably. He proved to everyone that he can not do anything with long hair. He says to cut off 6 inches but with that long of hair does 6 inches really make a difference? NOT AT ALL.
He is a worthless stylist unless he can cut someones hair to shoulder length. He had the chance to prove himself and he choked. Sure anyone can do something with short hair, the challenge was doing something with the long hair, he failed.
Originally posted by sizzletime92: Face it, the real dissapointment on this show was NICK. When nominating she says she wants to get a style of clothing and "see what styles Nick can come up with for her long hair"
Well he failed miserably. He proved to everyone that he can not do anything with long hair. He says to cut off 6 inches but with that long of hair does 6 inches really make a difference? NOT AT ALL.
He is a worthless stylist unless he can cut someones hair to shoulder length. He had the chance to prove himself and he choked. Sure anyone can do something with short hair, the challenge was doing something with the long hair, he failed.
I disagree. And I think that you-with all due respect-missed the point. It's not that it will make all that much a different in length, losing those six inches. But the six inches WILL get ride of all the damaged strands and split ends from not cutting her hair for a really long time. That would enable him to then give her still long hair more shape, style and finesse. It would also be more healthy. I mean, Nick is a top-notch, high-in-demand hairstylist that runs a top-notch salon in New York. I think that makes him far from worthless.
A lot of assumptions have been made she didn't cut her hair for religious beliefs. At no time did she say that and I only remember one time that she mentioned church - in the 360 mirror when she said, this might be an outfit that she might wear to church - it didn't sound like it was a regular occurance. So, we don't know her reasons and if you have that much conviction about it regardless of the reasons then don't nominate yourself. Other people have not thrown things away or not always followed the rules but I think they were all nominated by others. I can see being a little resistant if you were nominated by others. I thought it was a shame that Lynn nominated herself and then didn't give herself over to the process. Why be on the show? Yes, she is very tall, long arms, big boned, and large hips but she does have a figure and some nice features. Her hair did need to be cut - the bottom part was not healthy at all. Actually, if you trim your hair every six weeks, it helps keep it healthy and it will grow longer and stronger. I don't think Nick was harsh - I think he was truthful and although she said it in footage, she didn't tell him that she wanted tips for styling it - she just said that it would not be cut. Her hair dated her and made her look older. I know many men love long hair - my husband is one of them. But what many men love is the hair itself and they are not aware of how unflattering it can be on a woman. And the accusations that women love it to see a woman with long hair get their hair cut is ridiculous - I have never had that reaction and haven't seen it on the show. I have very thick, straight, healthy, blonde hair that has been as long as my waist. But it is a pain to take care of, there was little I could do with it, and as I got older - it made me look older, heavier, and drawn - it was not complimentary. I now get it cut a little above my shoulders and go back when it is below my shoulder blades. It keeps us both happy in our household. To me, I was just disappointed that she didn't really complete the process and I was turned off by her attitude - she seemed to have a chip on her shoulder and I thought that was sad. I'm not mad,it is just a TV show, I'll watch the show again but I just think it is a shame that she wasted a great opportunity because of what appeared to be some secret need for her to prove herself to someone - who or what she needed to prove? I don't know.
Originally posted by sizzletime92: Face it, the real dissapointment on this show was NICK. When nominating she says she wants to get a style of clothing and "see what styles Nick can come up with for her long hair"
Well he failed miserably. He proved to everyone that he can not do anything with long hair. He says to cut off 6 inches but with that long of hair does 6 inches really make a difference? NOT AT ALL.
He is a worthless stylist unless he can cut someones hair to shoulder length. He had the chance to prove himself and he choked. Sure anyone can do something with short hair, the challenge was doing something with the long hair, he failed.
Nick NEVER suggested cutting her hair to shoulder length. He suggested cutting off 5-6 inches of heavily damaged hair that made her long hair look much worse that it really was. She still would have had long hair. YOu really didn't pay attention to the whole exchange between the two of them.
While talking to my 7th day adventist co worker about this same topic a couple years ago he said that their church believe "angels swing from a womans long hair" and that cutting it off was like cutting off God I too agree that she should have had her hair cut--or not been on WNTW as isn't it wasteful to spend $5000 on clothes if you put no value into material good (if extremely religious?)
Anyways I will keep my hair short if not just to spite the weirdo guys that luuuvvv long hair (weirdos...)
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Obviously you have problems reading or comprehending what is written.
I said that cutting off 6" would not have made a difference for him to show what he could do with styling hair. Especially with that long of hair, 6" and it still would have been about waist lenth.
You are right, he never said to cut it to shoulder length. But lets face it, even you could probably help someones hair at shoulder legnth. His challenge was to do something with it as long as it was without cutting it. He could not do that, he knew he would be a failure.
I am not saying she should not have cut her hair. It would have been grand to see Nick cut off 6 inches and then show his cluelessness to us all of what to do next.
As it is, he cheated the viewers by not doing anything. If you watch again you would notice that in the opening segment that Lynn wants to see what styles Nick can perform with her hair without cutting it.
As I have said several times, he is a worthless stylist unless he can cut someones hair to shoulder length or shorter. He proved it again in this episode. Time for them to get someone who can live up to the challenge.
I just watched the show with Lynn the nanny.I have never been compelled to write or email a show before.She had no business being on that show.She was totally closed minded to just about everything.Why did the producers let her be on the show? I agree with other people that posted that you should have to sign a release to cut hair, try new clothes, make up etc..She still looked matronly after the whole thing because she wouldn't cut that Crystal Gayle long BORING hair.Check back with her in a few weeks,she will be back in sweats and sneakers! What a waste of an hour!
I have noticed that sizzletime92 has mentioned that Nick is a failure several times.She thinks this because he did nothing to style Lynn's hair.I wonder what you think he could have done with it sizzletime92 ??????? I am at a loss as to what ANYONE can do with hair that long?
Well see, that is exactly my point. He wanted to cut 6" off and do something with her hair. With hair that long, lets be honest, what difference would 6" make.
I dont know what he was going to do but couldnt he do the same thing without cutting off 6"? I am at a loss why he didnt try and do something. Show other ways to wear the hair, other ways to style it, anything. Instead, he gave up and quit.
No Sizzletime ... he didn't even try, and I don't blame him ... If I were a hair stylist and I had to deal with someone THAT stubborn, who wouldn't cut off 6 inches of dead, nasty, frizzy, straggly hair to make it healthier, just so they could "prove a point", or "take a stand" or whatever, then I wouldn't even touch her hair at all either. Why does she deserve a $400 hair style from a HIGHLY TALENTED, IN DEMAND stylist? She wanted to make a point, and so he made a point. Personally, I, for the life of me, CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY you would want to keep those nasty ends ... does she not realize that if not kept in good health and treated properly (and yes, that means with getting your hair trimmed once in a while), your hair STOPS GROWING??? It gets to a point where it just stops ... which is why the ends of her hair were so much thinner than the top and middle of her hair ... most of the strands had stopped growing. If she would have cut off the 6 inches, she would number one, look MUCH better. Number two, her hair would grow faster, stronger and longer than before. Why is that so difficult for some of you to comprehend?
Well see, that is exactly my point. He wanted to cut 6" off and do something with her hair. With hair that long, lets be honest, what difference would 6" make.
I dont know what he was going to do but couldnt he do the same thing without cutting off 6"? I am at a loss why he didnt try and do something. Show other ways to wear the hair, other ways to style it, anything. Instead, he gave up and quit.
Nick wanted to take off the 6" of frizzy ends after she flat-out refused the real haircut. He tried to meet her halfway. He said the hair would at least look healthier without the bad ends. She refused that, too. So why should he bother with someone so unwilling to do anything? I still say she acted like a child and he (rightfully so) treated her like a child.
Two points, which have already been made by other people:
When a contestant is given the $5,000 gift card, they are told that in exchange they have to agree to give themselves over "body, mind and wardrobe" to the stylists. In refusing even the slightest trim, Lynn broke that agreement.
I don't blame Nick for not doing anything with her hair. What can you do with hair that long without cutting it? Braid it? LOL In business, once you get a client that unwilling to cooperate, it's not worth the potential legal hassles to work with them at all. What if she decided to sue him for "damaging" her hair or making her agree to something "under duress"? No, Nick is a very smart man who obviously knows who to avoid.
Big Deal Lynn didn't cut her hair... She did say that she wanted to learn new ways to wear her hair. Nick said that nothing could be done with it except put it in a bun. He was nasty to her. If you went to get your hair done or cut and the hairstylist was nasty to you would you let them cut it? I think not. Maybe thats the reason she didn't let him cut any of it.. NO TRUST. At the end of the show she had her hair curled and styled differently It looked pretty good. Gee I guess Nick couldn't do ANYTHING. What kind of hairstylist is he. If he was such a great stylist then maybe he should have proven to everyone that he could do anything. He could have colored it or done other things with it. As far as her being self nominated. She did listen to what Clinton and Stacey had to say. She wasn't rude... That was the best part of the show where Clinton and Lynn were fighting over the sweatshirts. I believe Lynn said that it was a souvenir. There have been many worse people on the show then Lynn. I thought it was kinda funny. Your just a sad little man. Yeah she didn't let ANYONE break her. WTG LYNN
One more thing added to that.. If Lynn told the producers from the start that she didn't want to have her hair cut.. Why did they continue the show.
Originally posted by aj2002: I was overall disapointed about this episode. I had been hoping that there would be a show about a tall woman as I am over 6'3"...most of the fashion trends do not come in extra-tall sizes.
Several years ago, I was in a similar place as Lynn...completely out of date with fashion and unsure as to what to do.
I can see where Lynn is coming from,, not wanting to cut her hair...I used to have hair way down to my waist. Eventually, I came to a point where I wanted a change. I came to that decision when I did not need the hair to feel safe or concealed anymore.
Makeovers are all about change and getting out of a rut or comfort zone. No haircut or clothing is going to change who you are at the core level. I think that if Lynn would have given Nick a chance, she would have really liked it. For goodness sake, if Nick had only cut off 6 or 7 inches and she would have hardly noticed.
You would think that she would have been ready for that change since she nominated herself!!! Her arrogance in Nick's chair was only a tip of the iceberg...she fought the makeover every step of the way. Why did Lynn waste their time and money?
So if Nick cut her hair about 6 inches.. What would he be able to do differently? See the whole point was to show her how to do her hair differently. What would it have mattered if he took 6 inches off or nothing. Seems the only thing he can do is put it up in a bun unless he cut off alot more.
Originally posted by lwhod: A lot of assumptions have been made she didn't cut her hair for religious beliefs. At no time did she say that and I only remember one time that she mentioned church - in the 360 mirror when she said, this might be an outfit that she might wear to church - it didn't sound like it was a regular occurance. So, we don't know her reasons and if you have that much conviction about it regardless of the reasons then don't nominate yourself.
But several times in the video diary, she kept refering to not cutting her hair because of her "beliefs" which most people assume to mean a religious belief of some kind.
Oooh! What's this? A perfectly good RABBIT HOLE! Time to jump in: Wheee [thunk!]!
I've found that in a roomful of women dressed according to their faith, you can still spot the divas a mile away! The Muslima and Hindu fashionistas don't just wear veils -- they adorn themselves in wild pattern and fabulous splash. Pentecostal women may cover up modestly, but they dress very sharp and work the hats. Their hair is healthy, usually trimmed, conditioned and presentable (yes, trimmed. I know because my neighbors asked me to trim the ends of their long hair every other month or so). Some of the "Saved" divas even went so far as to wear invisible makeup blended flawlessly.
Around here Saturday mornings, the sidewalks turn into a runway of Orthodox divas strutting in their heels on their way to temple. Wigs are sprayed high and mighty, the hats are fabulous -- tilted ever so slightly at the rim. The coats are fierce. The outfits range from crochet'd boho fashions on the younger set to fitted tailored suits on the ladies of a certain age.
They are all still spiritual, but divas know how to work the dress codes as a starting point.
Women who dress their faith are usually very forthright about why they only wear long skirts, always wear a veil, keep the hair long, etc. Most people who choose to dress modestly view their attire as an opportunity to share a message and educate others about an unfamiliar religion.
Yet, here was a 35-year old woman on WNTW who didn't say or do anything to clarify her beliefs when she actually had the perfect opportunity and audience to do so. It is possible these things were edited out however, even though in the past there was a Muslima (Aysha [sp.]) who mentioned her concerns and on BBC there was a vicar (Julie [very sad unrelated news on BBC about her today])who was made over in such a way that she could wear her collar with various skirts and jackets.
In any case, here we are, left to second-guess.
With that in mind, I admit again that this is just the delusion of one muse (humm, come to think of it I don't think I admitted it before but I assumed you worked it in there somehow up top):
Hair usually reflects general health and nutrition from the inside out...
So aside from the obvious dead ends we could see, there were more likely a good number of dead ends we couldn't see. The result is that the "average" viewer at home saw the dried coarse hair as more of an anchor whereas the candidate apparently believed cutting the ends would put her very pride and soul at stake.
Most people in this world learn how to avoid dead ends long before they meet with Nick on national TV... If she hasn't already, she will come to understand. If a few people are upset about losing a few minutes watching the show, can you imagine how upsetting it would be to realize you might have lost 30 years to dead ends?
Ugh!!! Is it me or did anyone think that 'sideswept' do at the end of the show looked like a bad Donald Trump combover on steroids? Puhleez--reality check---she looks like an escapee from a polygamous Amish Amazon cult---cut the hair woman and do us all a favor.
As for her 'reasons' for not cutting her hair, I agree with many of the posters---her beliefs are hypocritical and contradictary. Who's the ignorant one that believes the Bible is meant to be taken literally?! Take a theology 101 class instead and learn to think and question for yourself. As for her 'strength' and 'beliefs'-- An institution or person that has fed you your beliefs that you regurgitate without a supporting argument or any intelligent analysis does NOT demonstrate strength, it demonstrates ignorance and weakness. Ciao bellas!
I didn't much like Lynn's overall personality---but I applauded when she refused to let Nick cut her hair. In my opinion, his haircuts are sometimes ruinous---really unflattering, or impossible to manage. She wanted her hair styled. But Nick doesn't know how to style hair.
The only part of the show that I dislike each week is Nick's haircuts. So I am very glad Lynn didn't let him near her with his scissors.
Originally posted by wavyhair: I didn't much like Lynn's overall personality---but I applauded when she refused to let Nick cut her hair. In my opinion, his haircuts are sometimes ruinous---really unflattering, or impossible to manage. She wanted her hair styled. But Nick doesn't know how to style hair.
The only part of the show that I dislike each week is Nick's haircuts. So I am very glad Lynn didn't let him near her with his scissors.
I never heard her say she wanted her hair styled. But it could just be the heavy metal has gotten to my hearing at last. But Nick was also being honest with her in saying that in good conscience, he couldn't style her hair properly unless she allowed him to remove the frizzy, split ends. After all, he's spent more time studying the care, health and styling of hair more than anyone else on this board.
While I agree Lynn should have got her hair at least trimmed,it was her decision not to.I definetly disagree with the posters who say Nick isnt a good stylist as he didnt style her hair.Really as I have said before(and speak from personal experiance) there isnt nothing he could have done to style hair that long.With hair as long as that the only choices are,a bun,ponytail.braids,or let it hang straight.You cannot curl hair this long as it wont hold the curl for very long.Also her hair made her much more older looking. I agree with Muse when she gave her opnions of women of faith and there attitudes towards clothing and styles. I feel sorry for her as she missed a great opportunity to see how much better she could have looked.
Originally posted by wavyhair: I didn't much like Lynn's overall personality---but I applauded when she refused to let Nick cut her hair. In my opinion, his haircuts are sometimes ruinous---really unflattering, or impossible to manage. She wanted her hair styled. But Nick doesn't know how to style hair.
Hmm.. well even though your opinions need to be heard to I think your a bit mean to say that. After all everyone has to start somewhere, and I think they based styles sometimes on what it reqested or maybe what looks best for head types : oval,square,heart shaped,pear.....
The only part of the show that I dislike each week is Nick's haircuts. So I am very glad Lynn didn't let him near her with his scissors.
Originally posted by mysticblueyez: Big Deal Lynn didn't cut her hair... She did say that she wanted to learn new ways to wear her hair. Nick said that nothing could be done with it except put it in a bun. He was nasty to her. If you went to get your hair done or cut and the hairstylist was nasty to you would you let them cut it? I think not. Maybe thats the reason she didn't let him cut any of it.. NO TRUST. At the end of the show she had her hair curled and styled differently It looked pretty good. Gee I guess Nick couldn't do ANYTHING. What kind of hairstylist is he. If he was such a great stylist then maybe he should have proven to everyone that he could do anything. He could have colored it or done other things with it.
Nick is a professional and as such he is not obliged to work on every difficult, narcissistic, insulting client that walks through his door. Not even on WNTW. He doesn't have anything to prove to anyone about his talent. If I were him I wouldn't have worked on her hair either, even to style it without cutting it. A client that difficult is obviously a nightmare to work with. Anything he did would have been found fault with by her. Haven't you ever worked with the public before? Obviously not!
I am new to the board. After I watched the "Lynn" episode, I just had to comment. I am so not happy about the hair thing. First of all SHE NOMINATED herself....WHY? If she was not willing to GIVE YOURSELF OVER MIND, BODY AND SOULwhy nominate yourself? I was so unhappy about that...I almost turned it off. Yes, her clothes did her justice, but come on..why do WE watch the show? Is it just the clothes thing?? nope...we want to see hair styles, want to see it come off and/or change sometimes completely. I am disappointed in the responsible people who pick these people who won't give themselves over all the way...PICK ME - I'LL HAD MYSELF OVER..please!
We trim our nails & toenails when they get too long (or get manicures & pedicures) - to me, trimming off the dead ends of your hair is only good grooming and totally necessary.
I was very disappointed in the show. And I'll be honest (and this will get me slammed) but I've never understand having waist length hair. Maybe it is for religious beliefs, or for other reasons, but it doesn't make sense to me. Most of the people I know who have super long hair wear it up in a bun, every single day. There is no style to that - and why grow it so long but wear it so it looks short?
I have super thick hair and I grew it to the middle of my back for a while and it was nothing but a pain (of course, this is just my experience!) I couldn't wear it up at all, because it was just too thick, and it was so heavy, it didn't do anything. Now it's about 3 inches past my collar bone and so much easier to deal with - and I can do so much more with it.
I actually give Nick credit for wanting to only cut 5 or 6 inches off. I would have hoped he did more. And she may be holding on to her hair because she likes it that way but the popularity of make over shows prove that we don't always know what's best for ourselves.
I dunno, I have different thoughts & opinions about that one. 
I have nothing against Lynn and there's nothing that can be done now, but she shouldn't have nominated herself and/or she shouldn't have accepted the Credit Card and agreed to turn herself over to them. Hopefully, this will never happen in the future again.
I felt uneasy just watching that show, I can only imagine how Stacy, Clint, Carmindy and especially Nick felt. 
