I've hatted Matt since the beginning of the show -- such an "it's all about me". Amazing that Amy has stood it so long. Now her anger is coming out -- unfortunately in indirect ways that make her look bad. She needs to learn clearer ways to get her anger out.
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She lives in a nice home which she keeps trashed, she has fairly healthy kids considering the possibilities and she has spoiled them terribly, she gets to travel and do lots of things but isn't happy unless she is trying to be one of the teenagers.
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Therapy is a private process....any number of people could have been in therapy for a long time, and there would no reason for the amateur psychologist with the free diagnosis available to know a single thing about it. Imagining oneself to know what someone on tv is thinking is without merit.
Amy used to work as a pre-school teacher. They don't earn a lot of money. I think that she has received many benifits of life by virtue of her marriage to Matt (beautiful home, travel, private school for the kids, college for the kids, medical coverage, ability to be stay at home mom, etc.) I would like to think I would have more than contempt for my partner under the circumstances.
I think that for counseling to be helpful, one must admit there is a problem and actually want the help. If they don't, then counseling probably wouldn't be that beneficial.
I honestly think that some people use bickering with their spouse and/or children as a sport. They treat is like recreation and eventually it becomes a habit for them. I think perhaps that is what has happened with some members of this family.
I certainly do not hate Matt! I admire him for all the obstacles that he has over come, he lets nothing stand in his way. He has provided well for his family and, sometimes I think that they are ungrateful. jmo
Why do posters insist on giving Matt credit for money earned? Their perks and money from the show is where the money is coming from, plus the pumpkin farm. (There is a good post somewhere recently about the details and difficulties of pumpkin farming.) It isn't "Matt's" money or hard work.
because some of them have fallen for Matt the victim. Some of them still hold a patriarchal attitude. Some because it seems to all be Matt's ideas, not realizing that ideas alone are not profitable.
Good points! In that senario, not only is it Matt's money and ideas,but Amy should be extremely grateful that he allows her to live there, since she'd have only been a pre-school teacher if not for his largess!!! The accompanying senario that is that the twins are without a future having been 'raised' by Amy...but Molly has a bright one, having been 'raised' by Amy --in another bogus twist. Boggles the mind!
Tree, Mint, you two have said a mouthful! In addition to the patriarchal views, some people don't seem to recognize some of the differences between men and women, either. When she complains, she's uh, witchy and controlling. When he disregards her feelings and does what he wants, he's a hero for following his dreams.
Their differences make things work. If they were both careful and cautious, they'd be boring. If they were both impulsive and had their heads in the clouds, they'd be broke.
I feel that Matt has always been good to the kids and Amy. She has a house to die for, and she doesnt care enough to even keep it straight, it looks like a trash dump all the time, she is a spoiled lady, Matt works hard to give them a nice life. She is lucky, Matt is certainly better looking and smarter than any of them, I hope they work things out, but if she leaves, he will be ok. She should take her favorite mama boy, Zach, with her.
Originally posted by sideliner: Tree, Mint, you two have said a mouthful! In addition to the patriarchal views, some people don't seem to recognize some of the differences between men and women, either. When she complains, she's uh, witchy and controlling. When he disregards her feelings and does what he wants, he's a hero for following his dreams.
Their differences make things work. If they were both careful and cautious, they'd be boring. If they were both impulsive and had their heads in the clouds, they'd be broke.
Thanks, and added to that is the presumption that, should things go awry, naturally HE would retain the 'family home' since he was the architect of their fortunes. It's "her" house to clean, but it's "his" house to keep. I guess what really bothers me about such as this is that it's probably the mindset...NOT of sexist men...but of women!!
Originally posted by sideliner: Tree, Mint, you two have said a mouthful! In addition to the patriarchal views, some people don't seem to recognize some of the differences between men and women, either. When she complains, she's uh, witchy and controlling. When he disregards her feelings and does what he wants, he's a hero for following his dreams.
Their differences make things work. If they were both careful and cautious, they'd be boring. If they were both impulsive and had their heads in the clouds, they'd be broke.
Thanks, and added to that is the presumption that, should things go awry, naturally HE would retain the 'family home' since he was the architect of their fortunes. It's "her" house to clean, but it's "his" house to keep. I guess what really bothers me about such as this is that it's probably the mindset...NOT of sexist men...but of women!!
True. I hear more women say, "I don't like working for women" more than I hear men say it.
Originally posted by Debb70: Amy used to work as a pre-school teacher. They don't earn a lot of money. I think that she has received many benifits of life by virtue of her marriage to Matt (beautiful home, travel, private school for the kids, college for the kids, medical coverage, ability to be stay at home mom, etc.) I would like to think I would have more than contempt for my partner under the circumstances.
I think that for counseling to be helpful, one must admit there is a problem and actually want the help. If they don't, then counseling probably wouldn't be that beneficial.
I honestly think that some people use bickering with their spouse and/or children as a sport. They treat is like recreation and eventually it becomes a habit for them. I think perhaps that is what has happened with some members of this family.
When you say "They don't earn a lot of money", what do you mean? They don't earn a lot of money before or after the show? If Jon And Kate were earning $75,000.00 per episode, what do you think the Rolloffs are making? Certainly at least that much, but probably more! So they have a great bank account, a great home (house), a great nest egg. Those kids should be able to buy anything they want, if Matt and Amy put their "earnings" in a trust fund. And no, I'm not at all jealous. I'm happy for them. Anyone who can be financially comfortable in their life, they are very lucky.
Originally posted by Debb70: Amy used to work as a pre-school teacher. They don't earn a lot of money. I think that she has received many benifits of life by virtue of her marriage to Matt (beautiful home, travel, private school for the kids, college for the kids, medical coverage, ability to be stay at home mom, etc.) I would like to think I would have more than contempt for my partner under the circumstances.
I think that for counseling to be helpful, one must admit there is a problem and actually want the help. If they don't, then counseling probably wouldn't be that beneficial.
I honestly think that some people use bickering with their spouse and/or children as a sport. They treat is like recreation and eventually it becomes a habit for them. I think perhaps that is what has happened with some members of this family.
When you say "They don't earn a lot of money", what do you mean? They don't earn a lot of money before or after the show? If Jon And Kate were earning $75,000.00 per episode, what do you think the Rolloffs are making? Certainly at least that much, but probably more! So they have a great bank account, a great home (house), a great nest egg. Those kids should be able to buy anything they want, if Matt and Amy put their "earnings" in a trust fund. And no, I'm not at all jealous. I'm happy for them. Anyone who can be financially comfortable in their life, they are very lucky.
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear in my statement. What I meant is that pre-school teachers don't earn a lot of money, not the Roloffs on their tv show. I think that they probably have done very well with their income from the program, plus the farm proceeds. I don't know how successful the business has been in which Matt designs and sells devices for people of short stature.
I've never felt that the home was Matt's and not Amy's. It is their home as a couple, and they both share the responsibility of it's upkeep. The only thing I've ever faulted Amy for is the fact that Matt tries to discipline the boys or make them clean, and Amy puts a stop to it. She simply does not want Matt involved in any sort of discipline. Amy truly wants to be in charge in that regard.
In some ways, I think Amy's desire to be in charge has actually pushed Matt away. Notice how he isn't very involved in vacations? I think this just may be because he doesn't feel like he's an important part of the family. Also, he's disabled to the point where he is unable to do many of the activities the family wants to do, and this also puts him at disatvantage. Couple that with Amy pushing him away, and boom... separate vacations.
