I have always know that Amy Roloff was a little needy when it comes to her kids. I have believed for some time that when they go, she will leave him. But What I am seeing tonight is so far beyond anything that I would have expected of her, I had to write. First instead of being a force of one with her husband, regarless of how she really feels, she encourages Zake not to go on vacation because she can't go. The Zake, who is, of course, just an immature child, encourages his sister not to go since he won't go. They verbalize they want to act against their father. Then to top it all of, they bring in that little boy Jacob who knew nothing about it and tried to get him to stay home. And the mother was standing right there encouraging them. This is a family in crisis. Thirty years ago there was a show on PBS called "Family". It was the first show, that I know of, that documented the daily life of a family. In the beginning they were happy and strong. But as time went on, the show made them see who they really were. In about a year, the family was destroyed. TV reality shows are not condusive to family's thriving..
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I agree I think Amy was happy her kids were against Matt. What kind of mother wants to bring a division between her family. She behaves like a child. God forbid if she backed her husband, the father of her children. If it wasn't for him they would not have the beautiful life they have.
Originally posted by Glowpat: I agree I think Amy was happy her kids were against Matt. What kind of mother wants to bring a division between her family. She behaves like a child. God forbid if she backed her husband, the father of her children. If it wasn't for him they would not have the beautiful life they have.
Well spoken! Zach needs to address washing his face and dressing like a young adult instead of dressing and acting like a child!!!
Amy should watch this episode and be ashamed of herself. She played those kids like a fiddle. I could not believe her behavior. She made up a trip last year that lasted 5 weeks and Matt could only go for 2 weeks that wasn't a problem. Now that Matt plans something he is in the wrong. Amy you should be ashamed of yourself. I am a mother and I would never do what you did.
I totally agree with everything said here. This is so so so sad. Did anyone notice that they kept saying "Matt is in his room"? This family is falling apart right before our eyes. And did you hear Amy say she was so proud of Zach for not going?? !!
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Ditto random_num! I used to really like watching this show but I am about to stop DVRing it. The kids have little respect for either of their parents and their home it seems. And I do not know what is up with Amy this season but her constant turning the kids against Matt in her super calm manipulative 'it's your choice' way is getting ridiculous. I am sure he feels like an outsider in his own home given the tension she creates. I don't think it's TLC making these families fail either - I think the just shine a light on what is already there. Amy seems to be more interested in the kids liking her than being a partner to her husband and parent to her kids.
I am totally disgusted with the actions of Amy. She is just an immature child herself. How disgusting of her to have her kids miss out on this trip with their dad just because she couldn't go. I would be happy for my kids to go with their dad-especially if I wasn't going to be home with them. She would rather they be home alone -so she could "win" her battle with Matt.Wow what parenting!
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I am really discussed with amy. the way that she treats matt is shameful. I saw the pleasure she got out of turning the kids against their father about the v.i. trip. she should not allow her kids to disrespect their father. matt needs to get a back bone and take control of his kids. amy needs to focus on cleaning that nasty house and make the kids clean up behind themselves.
Originally posted by random_num: Thirty years ago there was a show on PBS called "Family". It was the first show, that I know of, that documented the daily life of a family. In the beginning they were happy and strong. But as time went on, the show made them see who they really were. In about a year, the family was destroyed. TV reality shows are not condusive to family's thriving.
The PBS show was called "An American Family". The Loud family was filmed for a finite period of time. Pat Loud has said that all the problems that showed up on the show were present before the first camera rolled.
OK, heres the deal, Amy loves her children very much and in a lot of ways is a really good, loving mother.. The problem is, she is disrespectful toward Matt. She almost always takes her childrens side and does not support Matt. There are so many times Matt wants to enforce boundries or expectations for his children (like cleaning house) and Amy consistantly does not back him up with the children. She exudes animosity when she speaks to him. Almost everytime he speaks she seems irritated and annoyed by him. Her children and their ideas/opinions matter much more to her than his. I know Matt is a big dreamer and can be impulsive but, I wouldnt mind my husband being so successful, and to boot, he LOVES her and treats her very well. She has fallen out of love. This is a wonderful family and I hate to see things headed in the direction their headed. Once the kids are gone, Amy will be gone too. But Matt, if your reading this, I know you love Amy and you have raised a family together but you deserve someone who loves you, wants to spend time with you and treats you with respect.
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH EVERY WORD YOU SAID I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER I HOPE MATT READS THIS ONE- I DO THINK THE KIDS ARE GREAT AND I THINK AMY LOVES HER KIDS VERY MUCH BUT THE SITUATION WITH MATT AND AMY HAS GOTTEN WAYYYY OUT OF CONTROL AND ITS AFFECTING THE KIDS IN A NEGATIVE WAY
Originally posted by Glowpat: I agree I think Amy was happy her kids were against Matt. What kind of mother wants to bring a division between her family. She behaves like a child. God forbid if she backed her husband, the father of her children. If it wasn't for him they would not have the beautiful life they have.
BEAUTIFULLY SAID AND THE PART ABOUT 18 AND COUNTING MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD I ABOUT PEED MYSELF IT WAS TRUE BUT SO VERY VERY FUNNY LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!!
How ungreatful these kids are and Amy needs to be smacked for her actions tonight. I have always liked this show but I am so mad at them tonight. How can Amy be so "important" that she can't cancel a speech....all she is a little person that has a TV show on TLC !!!! They all should be greatful for their health, beautiful home, cars. etc. How many people would love to have a trip scheduled like this and paid for !!! Matt needs to smack Zack in the maouth !!! He has no respect for his father and thinks it is so funny. Does he realize how stupid he sounds talking to his father like that. Molly needs to be ashamed also....I would love a trip with my parents. I think all of them should be ashamed !!! Those kids especially !!
I agree with Amy on this one. Matt has always been too controlling, wanting everything his way. Excuse me, but WHY would you go schedule a trip without consulting with your wife??? The guy is a jerk. Then he constantly hounds Zach about his decision. He was never interested in those kids as much as he was in his own desires & pursuits. He left Amy to pretty much raise them & wonders why they have a devotion to their mom. Matt could have had some respect & scheduled the trip for another time that would have worked for everyone. And now he's so "sad", yeah right. I think they are headed for divorce because Matt has always put his needs first. He acts like a little kid (tantrums & all) & can't understand when his kids & wife stand up to him. Sheesh. Give me a break!
This is true!!! Since the beginning of this show she has constantly undermined her husband. His children are very disrespectful to him and she says nothing!!! Even when he does things for the family like fix the house up she is never satisfied. I really hope someone from her life or the show calls her attention to this forum so she will realise what an ungrateful person she is!!!!
Jeremy is so different from zack because he knows how to treat his elders. Amy thinks its funny when zack acts and looks when he treats his dad like that. I think matt roloff is a great father and provider for his family , and all they do except for jeremy and jacob, is whine about his decisions. What a ungrateful bunch of people to be around, and claim as your family.
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I feel sorry for matt to have such a disrespectful son as zack. I think that amy has even tainted molly, because she used to be such a loving girl towards her dad, now look at her she acts as ugly as her brother zack.. Jeremy seems to be the only one with respect for his father. Zack needs to stay in a childs place and realize you dont pay any bills in that house your dad matt does, and stop being a ungratefull brat.
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I think matt is great and deserves better people around him !!
I agree, it is a very self centered, selfish thing to do. And to think that Amy is the "adult" in this situation. I loved the second episode where they were all on the boat and loving the sea. Great Show! Jacob actually looked happy instead of the sad look he always carries around.
Originally posted by moorelove: I feel sorry for matt to have such a disrespectful son as zack. I think that amy has even tainted molly, because she used to be such a loving girl towards her dad, now look at her she acts as ugly as her brother zack.. Jeremy seems to be the only one with respect for his father. Zack needs to stay in a childs place and realize you dont pay any bills in that house your dad matt does, and stop being a ungratefull brat.
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I think matt is great and deserves better people around him !!
This show is quickly going down hill just like Jon & Kate. Amy is so self centered and such a bit**. She was having such fun trying to talk the children into not going to BVI with their dad. Amy needs to seek help..she is the one trying to break up the family. Why couldn't she fly out later and catch up with the family at one of the islands ? They were not out to sea the whole trip. Just about every island they stopped at had a airport that flights from the states fly into. Her speaking engagement was for one day, not one week.
I agree. Amy has been a shrew this year, but worse, is her encouragement to Zach and Molly to take sides against her husband and their father was inexcusable. When they did the high five when they decided not to go, I was furious with her behavior. Matt is an optimist, and sometimes needs to be reigned in, but she is constantly undermining his exuberence. It's sad watching this train wreck. Amy needs disapline her kids. They are slobs and disrespectful.
Amy was nothing but evil and selfish this week. Matt's health is poor and she should be encouraging her kids to spend time with their dad while he is still able to take vacations. She actually gave the high five to Zach before he went in to tell his dad he was not going on the trip. Shame on you Amy. You should be a little more grateful for the wonderful life Matt has given you and your children.
Glad others saw it that way too.. She was going away for a couple days herself. She should have told them to go and have a good time..Instead she was trying to get the kids to take a stand against Mat.. She should have said that she was angry..But it was between her and Matt..And since the trip was planned they should go and have a fun time..Then kick mat's butt later for making plans without consulting her. I am not sure but I think they would have all went and had fun..If she would have told them they should.
Unfortunately, Matt and Amy needed some parenting classes back in the day. It also appears they did not spank the children. I don't mean a "beat down" which they need now but spankings...now look what they have on their hands. As Molly told her own Mother, they don't know how to discipline or don't follow through well. Hopefully they will wise up to bring Jacob in line. Amy has lost her "eva love n mind." Pitting those children against their father. Shameful!!
...and that Zach, not bringing in a dime! nor even the grades he needs to get into a good university! Oh, he must have been out helping his dad bring home the beacon...they need to show him the door. His job is to go to school and shut his damn mouth.
Originally posted by Glowpat: I agree I think Amy was happy her kids were against Matt. What kind of mother wants to bring a division between her family. She behaves like a child. God forbid if she backed her husband, the father of her children. If it wasn't for him they would not have the beautiful life they have.
I TOTALLY agree with "random_num". I've watched Amy behave badly in the past ... but this was just totally around the bend tonight! I'm a parent of 6 kids...without all the fancy vacations and gorgeous home Matt's provided ... yet she acts so immature and selfish. She should have taken the high road and Encouraged her children to go w/Matt. Yes, it's unfortunate that there was a miscommunication, but to influence those children...and manipulate their staying home WITH HER was just sickening to watch! Absolutely only thought of herself ... and she's supposed to be such a good Christian. Excuse me.....!
One who is totally involved and doesn't discipline them and argues with the spouse. This parent's life is the kids, probably a bit too much.
One who is totally uninvolved and doesn't discipline them and ignores the spouse. This parent's life is indulging his whims.
So there's a strong link between the kids to one parent. There's strong link between the other parent to his whims.
The weakest link is the inclusion of the kids in one parent's whims. That happens once in a while. It's fun-based.
Matt has ceded over his parental responsibility to Amy. Why? Lack of backbone? Lack of interest? Unwillingness to deal with conflict with his wife?
Forget Matt and Amy.
Doesn't Matt have a responsibility to guide and oversee and discipline his own children, regardless of obstacles? What does it say about him if he's been too impotent to demand a say in his children's upbringing?
I know Matt seems to play to his own drum, but Amy clearly wanted the kids to not go just to satisfy her need for them to love her & go against Matt. I like Amy, I think she is a caring person, but she lets her kids walk all over Matt & not have any respect for the home & environment he built for them. I highly doubt her pre-school teaching job pays for the vacations & the home. Why is it that when she goes on vacation without him it's ok? As a mother of 3 boys, I would happily encourage my children to go with their Dad, especially in the teenage years when most kids want to pull away. I see so many times on this show, Zach talk down to his father & gang up with Amy. Like when Matt wants to make them clean or be responsible, she down plays it and does it for them, or argues with him in front of them. I have to say Jeremy is really a nice kid. I am glad he does not jump on the bandwagon. Matt might think out of the box & start project after project, but its his thinking that gave them a great place to grow up. I wish I had that kinds of land & house where all the kids could come. His health is not doing well & it is sad to see him have to say "I'm dying" to get someone to care. I won't even go into the messy house!
I agree with everything. Amy should want her kids to be with their Dad. She is going on a speaking engagement, why shouldn't they go have fun. She was very selfish in this episode & lately she seems to want out. Matt has provided a pretty good life for them & they walk all over him, keep the house filthy, & disrespect him all the time. I am glad to see Jeremy doesn't buy into it.
Originally posted by LoLo72: I know Matt seems to play to his own drum, but Amy clearly wanted the kids to not go just to satisfy her need for them to love her & go against Matt. I like Amy, I think she is a caring person, but she lets her kids walk all over Matt & not have any respect for the home & environment he built for them. I highly doubt her pre-school teaching job pays for the vacations & the home. Why is it that when she goes on vacation without him it's ok? As a mother of 3 boys, I would happily encourage my children to go with their Dad, especially in the teenage years when most kids want to pull away. I see so many times on this show, Zach talk down to his father & gang up with Amy. Like when Matt wants to make them clean or be responsible, she down plays it and does it for them, or argues with him in front of them. I have to say Jeremy is really a nice kid. I am glad he does not jump on the bandwagon. Matt might think out of the box & start project after project, but its his thinking that gave them a great place to grow up. I wish I had that kinds of land & house where all the kids could come. His health is not doing well & it is sad to see him have to say "I'm dying" to get someone to care. I won't even go into the messy house!
Not that you have to answer the question....
But what about Matt's responsibility to the kids. Why do people keep switching the subject back to Amy?
Holy Cow - I came away from the last show with such a belly ache! Therapy for everyone!! Zack clearly has no life skills,no communication skills, no motivation or respect. he needs serious intervention - He is a Brat run wild with permission from Amy - Amy is claiming to be THE ROCK of the family?? Then why is the house SO NASTY all the time, and why do none of them except for Matt care about the quality of their environment? Why is she so mean to Matt like he is an abuser! Amy has no regard for all she has in this life - Little person or not, she is a negative nelly who needs to grow. Matt clearly is doing as much as he can, and trying so hard to provide great experiences, fun, and love with his family before he is rendered completly disabled (which seems inevitable) WHERE IS THE GRACE, COMPASSION OR LOVE for this little guy who has provided all this for the family? YES, he is an over achiever who has pulled the family into huge undertakings that they may have not normally enlisted. Basic laws of respect for space and belongings is all the guy wants. TLC is originated this show to ride along with a family with disabilities overcoming stereo-typical victims and limitations of society - Now they are making us watch the unraveling of a marriage and family. Amy needs to move on and take Zack with her. The only redeeming aspect of the BVI show was seeing Jacob get a little sense of himself. Jeremy is the one who has applied the Christian values of goodness and kindness. I lost so much respect for Molly who Matt loves so very much - This is so sad to me. I hope they( Amy and Molly) rise up and turn this ship around! This is not what we need to see - We want to see Matt loved and cared for by people who love him while he is struggling in his pain and physical demise. However, he never shouts victim - what's more sad is he can't even ask for help from the people he lives with ie; his WIFE - they are just not available. My heart is so heavy! Amy is so, so cold. I will never go to hear her speak in public there is nothing she could say thatwould inspire me after watching the way she lives at home and treats her family - She is the one at fault if there is fault to be claimed Frown
I felt so bad for Matt while he was on vacation. Not only having to deal with the drama at home, his health is not that good. he even said so. I think he feels an urgency in taking his family on these trips. He will not be able to go on to many more family trips. they need marriage counseling soon!
Originally posted by Stella - Blue: ...Matt clearly is doing as much as he can, and trying so hard to provide great experiences, fun, and love with his family before he is rendered completly disabled (which seems inevitable)...
Matt does as much as he can for himself. He wants only to be involved in experiences that interest him. Otherwise, he's absentee. And that includes everyday parenting.
Amy is the one that dwells on Christian values. That's another reason she is such a hypocrite.
How long would any person try to fight with her when she is so bossy? I understand Matt dropping back. I would be so frustrated with her constant defense of bad behaviour, I would have left by now.
Anyone whose life and health are limited would understand him wanting to be involved in the experiences that interest him. It's called a bucket list.
Originally posted by Stella - Blue: ...Matt clearly is doing as much as he can, and trying so hard to provide great experiences, fun, and love with his family before he is rendered completly disabled (which seems inevitable)...
Matt does as much as he can for himself. He wants only to be involved in experiences that interest him. Otherwise, he's absentee. And that includes everyday parenting.
Enough with the "Christian" values already!
Amy forces him to the side - As far as I have seen, he tries and tries to be involved and get involved. Amy is diminishing, and dismissing of his involvement always. So yeah - he absorbs himself into what he likes to do. I would hold up in my office or workshop to escape the chaos and filth and disorder that she encourages in that house too!
Originally posted by encyclopaedia: Amy is the one that dwells on Christian values. That's another reason she is such a hypocrite.
How long would any person try to fight with her when she is so bossy? I understand Matt dropping back. I would be so frustrated with her constant defense of bad behaviour, I would have left by now.
Anyone whose life and health are limited would understand him wanting to be involved in the experiences that interest him. It's called a bucket list.
I disagree on this. Anyone who has kids in school knows they can only miss so many days a year. They have always planned trips on spring break. I would love it if my husband planned a family trip and alls I had to do was pack. I have watched this show for years, each year Amy and Zach especially get ruder and ruder. It's sad to see a mother watch her children disrespect her HUSBAND. If Amy doesn't plan it, it's not right. Everytime Matt tries to join in on a family conversation, grades, friends, sports, etc. she rolls her eyes and looks at him like he's stupid. The first thing her father did on one family Thanksgiving visit was walk around and try to find things wrong with the farm. She sat and watched her father disrespect her HUSBAND. Is anyone on Matts side? She's doing a great job on turning the kids against him. His health is failing him. Let's see if she keeps her trip to Europe planned when he has surgery, by the way could paralize him for life). Will she support her HUSBAND through sickness and health, or complain about it the whole time?
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Originally posted by Blubel: I agree with Amy on this one. Matt has always been too controlling, wanting everything his way. Excuse me, but WHY would you go schedule a trip without consulting with your wife??? The guy is a jerk. Then he constantly hounds Zach about his decision. He was never interested in those kids as much as he was in his own desires & pursuits. He left Amy to pretty much raise them & wonders why they have a devotion to their mom. Matt could have had some respect & scheduled the trip for another time that would have worked for everyone. And now he's so "sad", yeah right. I think they are headed for divorce because Matt has always put his needs first. He acts like a little kid (tantrums & all) & can't understand when his kids & wife stand up to him. Sheesh. Give me a break!
minty: Amy was interviewed by Fox News on May 2nd, 2009 to discuss the Roloffs Christian faith.
" Faith is important. Faith has helped me get through things, the tough times. Just trying to do the right thing and be a good example for my kids is tough enough. Faith has given me a different view on life, the world. My focus is not on all of the stuff around me and what is happening, but on Him and how can I raise my kids to still be the best they can be in a world that is constantly changing. I have to help them to keep themselves grounded and still have character and compassion for others amongst all that is happening."
She is also involved with Dobson's Focus on the Family
Originally posted by encyclopaedia: The Fox report is an interview with Amy, are you saying she lies?
I don't follow her either, I find her annoying but you asked for proof. I posted the video on the other thread where you are defending her.
I watched the video. And noticed that altho the interviewer is kind of goofy...not once did she quote a Bible verse to justify her calling people names and I like that in a person.
"Dwelling" you just threw in for effect.
I will continue to defend that taking 'sides' and even "thinking sides" is not for grownups.
I agree I was so disapointed in Amy. If she would have been the adult and gotten behind Matt the kids would not even have thought about not going. She should have said we had a miss communication and I can't go, but ya'll go and have a blast for me. But all of the low talking behind Matt's back about how mad she was.....what else could Zach do.............
I've seen examples of how Matt is disrespected. Granted the viewer only sees a small portion of what is actually filmed, but what I saw on the show lately was terrible. Amy was actually trying to polarize the family in some kind of divisive move simply she CHOSE not to go on the BVI trip. You first see it when she isolates Zack, gets him to rally support from his sister and then actually brings the youngest son into thing by holding another "meeting". She doesn't present both sides and allow the kids to make up their own minds then when the youngest son still is making up his mind, she tries to make him feel guilty for wanting to go. In that same scene Amy then (unbelievably) gives the kids a high five before having them approach Matt to tell him they were not going.She really went too far in manipulating her own kids to punish Matt
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