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Senior Member
Registered: 11-24-07
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i'm sorry if this thread is a little off topic, but i just love you all and want you to be safe if this ever happens....
As some of you may have experienced, there are some earthquakes happeneing. I know most of us have been taught to Duck and Cover, but im telling you now, DONT!!!! heres why:
TIPS DOUG COPP PROVIDES:
1) Everyone who simply "ducks and covers" WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE is crushed to death -- every time, without exception. People who get under objects, like desks or cars, are always crushed.
2) Cats, dogs and babies all naturally often curl up in the fetal position. You should too in an earthquake. It is a natural safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void. Get next to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a void next to it.
3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during an earthquake. The reason is simple: the wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake. If the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created. Also, the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.
4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on the back of the door of every room, telling occupants to lie down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.
5) If an earthquake happens while you are watching television and you cannot easily escape by getting out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a sofa, or large chair.
6) Everybody who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either case, you will be killed!
7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different "moment of frequency" (they swing separately from the main part of the building). The stair s and remainder of the building continuously bump into each other until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads. They are horribly mutilated. Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away from the stairs. The stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when overloaded by screaming, fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety, even when the rest of the building is not damaged.
8) Get near the outer walls of buildings or outside of them if possible- It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the buildi ng the greater the probability that your escape route will be blocked.
9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway. The victims of the San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and sitting or lying next to their vehicles, says the author.&n bsp; Everyone killed would have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to them. All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars that had columns fall directly across them.
10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact. Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper.
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Senior Member
Registered: 09-28-07
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DD, I have lived with earthquakes for almost all my life. I even remember the big one of 1964 in Alaska - it threw my desk across the classroom, in Salt Lake City, Utah!! These seem to be some really good tips to keep in mind, especially for our burrowmates in places that aren't used to quakes. I am not afraid of earthquakes, I guess cuz I grew up with them. Now tornadoes...that's a wind of a different color!!! Thanks for thinking of us and sharing this information, little meersister.
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-24-07
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so welcome dmoo.
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-27-07
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DD-
Thanks for sharing that. It had information that I had never heard before but it makes a lot of sense.
I guess with all the tremors you guys have been having up there it must be at the front of your mind right now. Hopefully the tremors have stopped. It was last week wasn't it?
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-24-07
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yes, the second biggest one we had. It was in the middle of the night and it woke me up. Your welcome, cody. I just want you all to be safe.
Remember the void....
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Senior Member
Registered: 03-05-07
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DD, thank you for doing sentry duty to try to help everyone. You might also want to know that when you find more "Doug Copp" info on a search engine, it results in webpages where some people are questioning his views, so while some of it may be very useful, always be sure to verify what you find on the internet.
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-24-07
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dont worry, i did. I think its more likely than Duck and Cover though.
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-03-07
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I was in the Northridge earthquake of 1994. I was alone and it hit at 4:31 am. It scared me to death. I immediately went straight for the door and stood right under it. I felt safe and did not move until it was over. My boyfriend had gone to work at 3AM so I was there all by myself. It was extremely scary and I cannot begin to tell you how much. I really thought I was going to die. The aftershocks are also very scary as you think it is happening all over again. There was a fire right up the street on Balboa Blvd and many houses were burned. I remember a guy in his truck that had to get out of it and could not rescue his dog who was also in the truck. It was all devastating. The EQ was not a roller but a thrust EQ and those are one of the worst to be in, for me anyway. My cat stayed under the bed for 3 days. Smart cat!So in closing I hope that I NEVER EVER have to go thru this again.
Janelle
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Senior Member
Registered: 10-02-07
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Thanks Dark!
I have a friend that lives in the vacinity of Ft. Campbell, and he thought the base was having some sort of manuevers. I will pass this along, it makes sense!
Hi C9691, haven't seen you around, glad you are ok. Yes, very smart cat!
Flotosbea
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Senior Member
Registered: 10-03-07
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Hey DarkDream. Thanks for the post.
I lived in Calif. from the age of 9 to 14, the first time I experienced an earthquake....I had no idea what the heck was happening. It was really weird.
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Senior Member
Registered: 09-07-07
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Yes Darkdream, good thread. I was in the Northridge quake in 1994 too. I was visiting my dad, who lived there. My pup was only about 2 1/2 at the time. Dad yelled earth quake, get in the doorway! It felt like a giant picked up the house and shook the crap out of it, and then set it back down. It was very scary, I remember my dads stove came from the kitchen, and ended up in the livingroom. Which was quite a ways from the kitchen. Everything fell off the walls and stuff was sliding. It was sad too, because my dads boss had his 4 year old grandson staying with him. He was sleeping under the fireplace when it hit. He did not make it. I know he was just one of the people that died. That was very bad. Christopher you went through that alone! Wow. I think I will stay in KS, at least I can get in my basement if I need too.
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Senior Member
Registered: 09-07-07
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I need to clarifiy something. In 1995, we did move out to california. We moved dad to Riverside, and lived there with him for few years. We felt temors their, but nothing like the northridge wake. The dogs always knew before they happend too.
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Senior Member
Registered: 02-29-08
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It is nice to know that people care about us!
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-24-07
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your al so welcome. you know how much i care about you all.
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-06-07
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Thanks for the info DD. They are predicting a mondo quake up here in WA along the Cascadia Subduction Zone, a 9 or 10. The one in 2002 took out the road to our treatment plant! I was in CA for the Northridge quake - I was driving my 4WD work truck along PCH & it started bouncing. A first for me! I was also due to fly up here to be interviewed the next day & kept hoping LAX would reopen (it did). I had also driven the Nimitz Fwy & remember it shaking with only big rigs driving it & it scared me then. Not surprised it collapsed. Good info DD for that. We have the same thing here - the Alaska Way Viaduct & I refuse to drive it. Dmoo - Only thing I rember about the 64 Alaska quake was my dad pointing out the pharmacy he interned at in Anchorage -shown on tv & it had sunk 3 ft below street level.
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-24-07
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oh wow!! your welcome, meergato.
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Senior Member
Registered: 04-13-08
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Thanks for sharing, DD. We had an earthquake a couple weeks ago, but nothing serious.
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-06-07
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Oops, my aarp age mistake - 2001 for our earthquake. DD - before I started bouncing down PCH, I was listening to a radio talk show when they got struck & I heard alot of "duck & cover" comments. A few seconds later the truck was bouncing. We recently had a county wide "duck & cover" drill here (this time in the work van & didn't participate - but no bouncing except for pot holes  ). Amazing how they've never change anything.
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-12-07
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quote: Originally posted by DarkDreamDD: yes, the second biggest one we had. It was in the middle of the night and it woke me up. Your welcome, cody. I just want you all to be safe.
Remember the void....
We the Hoosiers had one last week. Mine knocked my lamp onto my cats Duke and Sparky who were sleeping with me. It crashed on Duke. The strom didn't wake me.....Duke did. The lamp fell right on the top coner of the bed and then tipped on him. He yweled right in my ear and dashed for it. Sparky was too fat and lazy to want to run too. Buddy, the other cat, came and took Dukes place. He, in fact, shot under the covers. My puppy was afraid too. My brother screamed like a MANIAC. I went back to sleep (after putting my lamp back) and woke up four hours later because the weather guy on my alarm clock was talking. The aftershock was during a game of baseball in gym class. I had been hitting the ball at the time and it scared me so bad I threw it at one of my friends. EARTHQUAKE TERRORS. THEY AREN'T PRETTY.
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Senior Member
Registered: 05-07-08
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thanks for sharing this with us i have never ben in a earthquick but help ful tips just in case i am ever in one
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-24-07
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thanks for sharing noodles. interesting story ^^
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