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I love the Discovery channel, and watch it often. I think it promotes wildlife conservation, but these jackasses out in beautiful Alaska shooting at Moose, wolves, bison...what's next?, grizzly & polar bears??? Take this show off the air, it doesnt belong on the channel!!! Who cares if they can survive by killing our precious wildlife...send them back to New Jersey!!!
 
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Relax....

Go outside.
Take a deep breath.
Go hug a tree.

Feel better?

Good. Come back inside.
Resume irrational rants... Roll Eyes
 
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Hey packrat, I'm no liberal tree hugger, but there's no reason for killing endangered animals!!! Oh, I get it, you're a hunter...my hero, you can kill an animal with a rifle...what skill, what macho, go polish your rifle...got to be ready for that surprise attack from a bunny!!!

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Look out, packrat's in his camo, him and his beer guzzling buddies are going out to shoot a helpless deer...I'm a cop and guns are life and death...you'd wet yourself if confronted with anything bigger than a squirrel!!! Get the Coors chilled machoman!!!
 
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It has nothing to do with macho. I was taught early on what to do if I ever needed it. I don't hunt for fun. Never have and don't ever plan on it. I have on occassion hunted because I HAD TO. Not all of us can afford to spend a few hundred bucks at the grocery store to put meat on the table.

Quite frankly, I'm more concerned with the 2-legged vermin than the 4-legged ones.

There are lessons to be learned from this show though whether you agree with it or not.
 
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I have never had a problem with anyone who has to hunt to put food on the table...we all have to take care of our own!!! But, for a TV show...yes, I have a problem...Even on shows I love like Survivorman & Man vs. Wild, they are very careful about what they kill to eat, and regret that!!! These people can be air lifted out at a moments notice...kill a moose because they're tired of salmon & rice??? CMON!!!
 
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Well!!! It's obvious gfhollywood knows how to hit the exclamation key!!! Right hollywood!!! Look, use your brains, if the show disturbs you DON'T watch it!!! Wow, see how easy that was to figure out!!!
 
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So exactly which of the animals hunted are endangered? Heck, I have moose in my back yard, its not like we have a shortage up here. Grizzly are very numerous also. BTW, only Alaska Natives can legally hunt polar bears so there's no danger there, not that any would wander that far south.
 
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Yeah, I don't think any endangered animals were shot. I'm pretty sure Discovery and the guides there with the participants did their due diligence in regards to all aspects of the show.

If no one new, the guy flying them around (same one that took Greg on his hunt) is a famous Alaskan pilot with decades of experience out there as a pilot and hunter.
 
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I am saddened by the confrontations here. I have spent my whole life as a steward of the lands around my family ranch in Montana. If not for responible, conservative hunting practices my family would have a very hard time making it throught the winters here. And let me tell you the winters here are harsh but not like Alaska. If you haven't experienced a working and I do mean working winter, you have no idea how much protien is required. Try spending 8+ hours feeding cattle, breaking ice for water and shoveling snow. Not to mention cutting fire wood. And please don't tell me that burning wood fuel is bad for the envirnoment. Think about the carbons from heating oil versus white pine or cedar. Hmmm. So please understand that these people need the meat they get from hunting that occurs. They are not cannon toting gun bunnies, and the guides are there to responsibly manage the hunt. Proper care and managenet is required to keep these species from becoming overpopulated. When that happens disease, overgrazing and famine set in. We have a responsibility to the land and animals. If you don't think a rifle is a fair hunt...try the spirituality of archery. Be part of the land, be one with the animal. God put it there for us. But use it responibly. Hunting may not be for everyone, but don't crucify those that provide for their own and those that responsibly enjoy the sport. Try it, enjoy it relish the spirit.
 
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Very well said, BigSky.
 
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Thank you BigSky...you saved me a lot of typing.
 
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they haven't killed any threatend or endangered animals. why do people forget we are part of nature too?i bet the bears don't sit around worrying about the feelings of the food they eat . even the bison kill the plants they eat . we are no differant than a bear. we just have more technology. we can buy our food at the store allready killed and clean so that we can pretend to be above the food chain. tell yourself it's different, but it's not.
i do kill part of my own food and it doesn't bother me at all . i don't kill for pleasure but because it keeps me in mind of the people that have come before us and what it takes to stay on top of the food chain.
 
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oh i forgot i was feeling real bad at dinner last night !
there wasn't enough garlic on the venison chops and it was slightly overcooked.
 
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i agree with the bigsky. but we do have a tv show that is the reason for these's kill's
 
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Who cares if they can survive by killing our precious wildlife


Maybe it is a crime of my human-centric perspective, but I think human life and well-being supersedes that of wildlife.

Man is part of nature and cannot be faulted for interacting with it to provide for his sustenance, no more than might a bears actions be looked down upon for killing salmon or trampling over the pristine wilderness of the Alaskan frontier.

Hunting and the food chain are defining aspects of nature. They are natural to The Wild. When humans interject themselves into nature, they find that they have to hunt, fish, and gather to provide for themselves.

Whether it be an indigenous hunter whose people have existed on the land for generations or some volunteers for a new tv program, people still have to eat, and in the wild, it most likely means that they will have to hunt for food.

The narrator as well as the participants have explained at length the necessity of having successful hunts in that it provides necessary proteins, fats, and calories to survive the Alaskan winter.

It remains an uncomfortable fact that if they are going to eat meat, animals are going to have to die. There is nothing gratuitous about the hunting taking place on this program.
 
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Well said, az_guy.
 
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Maybe it is a crime of my human-centric perspective, but I think human life and well-being supersedes that of wildlife.


LOL! Classic!
 
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Originally posted by gfhollywood50:
I love the Discovery channel, and watch it often. I think it promotes wildlife conservation, but these jackasses out in beautiful Alaska shooting at Moose, wolves, bison...what's next?, grizzly & polar bears??? Take this show off the air, it doesnt belong on the channel!!! Who cares if they can survive by killing our precious wildlife...send them back to New Jersey!!!


While the hunting of animals might disturb you, others are not so upsetr by these events. Many people enjoy the sport of hunting and do indeed benifit from the meat recovered from a kill. If you're not inclined to hunt, fine. That is your call.

And your concern for the Moose, Wolves, and Bison is all fine, but all moose hunts were done according to Alaska game laws with proper license, and with a guide to insure it was done properly. Also I did not see a single moose shot at or slaughtered. And if they had, well when it is done in a legal manner, whether for a TV show or not, I have no complaints. Maybe they should outlaw all the hunting and fishing programs in your opinion as well?

No wolves have been shot at yet that I have seen. Whether they are protected I could not say as I do not live in Alaska. The Bison incident where Allan says, get the .22 . I am not so sure he actually shot at the bison. As they later point out, the .22 would probably have no effect on an animal of that size.

Yes two mountain goats were harvested. The meat was also eaten. No one hunted them for head mounts. All was done legally. So again that boils down to whether you agree with hunting or not. The fact it was done for a TV show is where I feel you have the problem. I do not have a problem with it, as long as it was done in a legal manner according to the law. Being a cop, you of all people could understand that.

While the show upsets you because it must go against things that in your opinion you feel not right or necessary, I want to point out.. that is your opinion. Everything is being done according to Alaska law as I understand it. This kind of program deals more with just killing animals. It also deals with the interaction of people and how they cope in an environment foreign to them. It deals with their day to day activities and the stress and interactions they have with each other just to get by. Some of us find that entertaining.

But you do have one option in this case.. its called the remote control. Not happy with the program, change the channel. Although I do respect your opinion in this.
 
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WOW I did'nt know so many tree huggers existed in this world. Kinda scary!
 
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