Corey, you really need to get a grip man! You have become obsessed with Aubry to the point that you have lost all sense of professionalism and dignity. Do you watch these episodes of LA Ink? Do you see how things look? In a complete twist, Aubry is now beginning to come across as the one who has it together and conversely you are looking like an out-of-control train wreck who is one step short of breaking down into a pool of tears. I haven't made my mind up yet, but I am beginning to believe that everyone (we the fans, Kat, Dan and ESPECIALLY you, Corey) may have underestimated Aubry. She seems to be playing a cool game of poker and she appears to have played you so well that she got you to totally lose your cool and reveal your tell. NEVER lose your cool in a poker game! In doing so you give your opponent a huge advantage. A more sobering thought is that a team of people (La Ink) who are supposedly working together to acheive a common goal (a healthy business) should NOT be in opposition to one another in the first place. Corey, I KNOW that you and Dan (I'm not so sure about Kat, she may be on the fence) would be QUICK to blame Aubry for it all, but NO WAY! Go roll the tape back and watch the past episodes... it was all of YOU clowns who brought this back-biting spirit into the shop. Aubry came in, all callow and awkward, and you guys IMMEDIATELY found an easy victim for your cruel put-downs, murmurings and bullying. Like a predator seeking prey, you recognized her vulnerability, and rather than using her awkwardness and lack of experience as an opportunity to be human and try and help a person to better themselves and climb a step higher on life's ladder, you instead chose to kick her when she's down. YOU brought this bad vibe into the shop and it all backfired and blew up in your face... how pathetic it has made you all look! And now Corey, you have become so consumed with venom that you are now beginning to turn against your friends Dan and Kat as well. I think that Aubry should be applauded for getting that woman to wait to get a tattoo. In my book, NOBODY who has ANY doubts should get a tattoo. It is permanent! If you are getting a tattoo (especially your first), you should be one-hundred percent certain or else wait until you are. Aubry was more professional than you Corey with this situation because she had the insight to see that this woman had doubts and you could not see it (or worse, you did see it and did not care!). If this woman was so easily talked out of getting her tattoo that all it took was a few words from Aubry, then clearly she was not ready to be tattooed. I believe that anyone who is truly ready to get a tattoo should prove it first by being so convinced that they cannot be talked out of it by anyone... that is a person who is truly ready. I believe that it is unethical and unprofessional to tattoo someone who has doubts! Tell a person like that that they should come back only when they are fully convinced.
MBGrafix, I couldn't have said it any better. I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said and I personnally feel that if they get rid of Corey right now the air would be cleared and that would be the time to set the rest of the staff straight about behavior in that shop.
Mbgrafix is totally right....I am tired of hearing Corey and Dan moan about Aubrey...if she gets fired over Corey's childish actions than I will never watch LA Ink again...granted Aubrey rubs people the wrong way, but Corey is a baby...maybe he should be off the show.
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I just don't get it... why does Corey have such an unbalanced fixation on Aubry?! It's like, it does not matter what she says or does... he hates her just because she is breathing. Does she remind him of someone that once burned him? ...maybe a girl from his past that broke up with him or humiliated him? I just don't get it.
I too was dismayed when Cory told Aubrey she had broken some unspoken code that you never discourage a customer who has come in for a tattoo. A tattoo is for life (unless you want an expensive laser treatment), and is not something you should get if you have any doubt whatsoever. A real professional would never tattoo someone who was acting like they were unsure about it.
i agree with all said above . Worse is Kat is beginning to think like Corey ,, and when i heard her say ,, that if she hung with amy and the other dude , that she cldnt be with their " family " i freaked. This is an american right ? i mean KAT is an american right !!???? i havent heard anything so immature and conceited since junior highschool. What Aubrey is going through is abuse plain and simple. My hat off to her for sticking it out with such people.
Trobe
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yeah Corey is acting like a turned down 15 yr old in the school halway . i cant believe how abusive he is ,, and that Kat is allowing him to get away with it . These people are americans right ?? Right?? I really admired Kat , until i heard her say Aubrey cldn't hang with Amy and the other dude, IF she wanted to be part of their "" FAMILY"" Where i am from , that is considered on the job abuse and intimidation .. once again i ask ,, Kat is an american right? trobefox
amen to everyone who replied to this mess....corey is acting like a self centered egatistical pig...hes always talking crap about aubry granted she isnt the britest bulb of the bunch but shes still a human.....corey grow up and let kat run the shop like shes suppose its no wonder kat do her job right shes constantly got a women hatin pig in her ear all the time...
I so totally agree with you guys. Corey really needs to get a grip on himself.
I too thought Corey and Kat were cool and then slowly I was going OMFG I can't believe they are saying the stuff that they are, not just against Aubrey, but Paulie and Amie too!
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Originally posted by trobacher: yeah Corey is acting like a turned down 15 yr old in the school halway . i cant believe how abusive he is ,, and that Kat is allowing him to get away with it . These people are americans right ?? Right?? I really admired Kat , until i heard her say Aubrey cldn't hang with Amy and the other dude, IF she wanted to be part of their "" FAMILY"" Where i am from , that is considered on the job abuse and intimidation .. once again i ask ,, Kat is an american right? trobefox
Steveevets, I read the page that you linked to regarding the anti-semitic photo... it is truly horrible and outrageously offensive, but I do not think that it is fair to use this against Kat since she denies ever writing it and there is no conclusive evidence to confirm it. I am a firm believer in the American ideal of "innocent until proven guilty". If it were ever PROVEN to be true it would surely be reprehensible and shameful beyond any excuse or understanding for her to have said such a thing to Ami, regardless of how he treated her, but in light of the lack of evidence and the fact that she denies it, I think that we need to give her the benefit of the doubt. After all, if someone were to create a similar document in YOUR name and claim that YOU authored it, you would want to be given the benefit of the doubt... and rightly so. I believe that we should never be too quick to rush into judgment on such things, ESPECIALLY when they are as inflammatory and serious as this accusation is!
I'm not using it against her, Don't get me wrong, I don't WANT Kat to have done it. But it was proven by a 3rd party handwriting expert who DID confirmed she wrote it. If it was just "he said, she said" I would never think twice, but a 3rd party expert would never put their reputation on the line like that without being able to prove it. They want to work again. If there was enough evidence to say Kat wrote it 99%, I think there could be truth in it. I agree people should be cautious with accusations like this, but it makes me sad that they have the evidence to say she wrote it.
The only mistake Corey made was putting up with it this long. Aubrey should have been fired because she didn't do a good job, not because she isn't "part of the family". Kat is a poor manager. Should should kill the nepotism, fire her brother and sister, and grow a spine with the show producers and get some talented artists back in the shop.
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You are kidding right Aubry should be FIRED for what she did, did you see the look she gave as she walked away from talking to the customer it was 'that will show you' look. Aubry talked her out of getting that tattoo not for the customer but to get back at Corey and the shop nothing else. That lady was ready and knew what she wanted no second thoughts till Aubry put them in.
Sorry Datrebor, but if you had fully convinced yourself that you were going to get a tattoo, would you be so weak minded as to be talked out of it by nothing more than a five minute conversation with Aubry? I don't think so... and if you had, then you had no business asking for a tattoo in the first place. This isn't like ordering pizza, (if you don't like it you can send it back or throw it away), no not at all!! This is permanent!! Nobody should be allowed to get a tattoo if they can be talked out of it after a short talk with Aubry... and if you are being intellectually honest with yourself and the rest of us, then you will have to admit that this is the truth! So come on now man and put your negative feelings about Aubry aside and be real.
I believe she did it just to get back at Corey. Aubry was "Furious" at not being on the mural and at Corey cause she thinks he is getting a kick out of her not being on the mural. Also did you see the look she gave Corey after she walked away? That was a vendetta look, haha I got you Corey then after the customer said second thoughts the look said 'I screwed up' she knew she did something wrong when they went out side to talk. Aubry said she is mad at the shop so I still thinks she did it for spite, it was 'Aubry's opinion' based on how she feels about tattoos and just that . Just because a person can be talked out of doing something does not mean that weren't ready or shouldn't do it. Besides if Aubry don't like that shop or how she is treated then she should go to the Ca Dept of Labor and file a complaint or find a new job. I had worked at a place I didn't like, I was not there long, I would find another job. BTW I was at Sturgis and wanted a tattoo but was told to come back tomorrow morning well I don't do mornings and I still think about the tat I almost got and wish I did.
Regardless of what Aubry's motive was, that woman was clearly not ready to get a tattoo and she did the right thing. Aubry's motive is a separate issue altogether, and unless you are a mind reader, there is no honest way for you to conclusively say what Aubry's motive was.
I have watched that part over again few times and I do not see anywhere that the lady was not ready. I heard her say "I am totally psyched and ready to do this" and she wants to get a tattoo and have it on her arm and she even knows that with some clients that the tat would have to covered up but is ok with that. Aubry does have tats and all of them are covered. Aubry asks her if she is sure she wants on her arm, I believe that is because all of Aubry's are covered. BTW unless you too are a mind reader how do you know 100% that the lady was not ready to get tattooed, now honestly, can you say she was not ready just because she was able to be talked out of it? I am going to talk to other people in that field but so far the feedback is that it was not Aubry's or even the shop's place to talk a client out of getting a tattoo if a person wants one unless they are clearly not in their right mind like drunk or on something or like the shop in Vegas that won't tattoo a person's face unless they were really sure about it. If you read some of my other posts you will see that I have stood up for Aubry and how she has been treated so I do not hate her.
I truly believe that everything about Miami/LA Ink if FAKE but the actual tattoos. The drama is as fake as a three dollar bill.
Kat will make tons of money after this horrible show is off the air. Why? Because she is very well know, her work is great. Overpriced but great just the same. She was making a good living before being on TV and she will continue to make good money after the show is over.
To tell you the truth, I am getting so annoyed watching the show that if things don't change i will be done with it. There is way to much drama over petty things,it is just unbelievable. For people that have so much talent to have such a low tolerance for other people is just crazy. If i was a customer and had to listen and see and feel all the negativity in that shop i would be annoyed. Getting a Tat is very memorable and special and to have all that crap going on would just ruin it for me.Hopefully things will change or i might not have to stop watching the show because, what i see here i am not the only one getting sick of all the crap and the show might not get another season. There was so much less bull when Hanna & Kim were there.I hope they get the crap setteled and get back to doing Tattoo's because I Love to see the Ink work that is being done.
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Datrebor, I am sorry, but that is your opinion and I still disagree with it. You and I simply have a different set of values and must agree to disagree, because I firmly believe that no one should get a tattoo unless they are one-hundred percent convinced in advance, and that their mom, sister, best friend (and ESPECIALLY not a stranger, like Aubry was to this woman) should be able to talk you out of it. Only when you have reached that level of confidence should you proceed, because if you can be talked out of it so easily, that means that you are having doubts, and if you are having doubts today, you are at GREAT risk of having regrets tomorrow. But TOO BAD!! You got a tattoo! ...not something more trivial like a shoes, or a computer or even a new car with which you can change your mind! So now you must live with it because it is permanent. Datrebor, I say it to you again... sorry, but you will not convince me that it is a good thing to allow someone who is having any doubts to get a tattoo. I don't care how many people you get to agree with you... professional or otherwise. In my book a tattoo is different. It is like the people who buy a puppy because it is "so cute". They make a decision based on their current emotional state, but do not fully weigh the potential consequences of their decision in the days, months and years to come and then the puppy craps on the rug and chews up the couch, it grows up into a dog and is no longer "cute" so they get rid of it. That is not right! I apply the same principle here as well. Unless you are one-hundred percent certain in advance that you want the responsibility, do not get a dog! And Unless you are one-hundred percent certain in advance that you want a tattoo, do not get one!
I dunno about Kat having much of a career after LA Ink. She'll always have some fans, but she lost a lot this season. I doubt next season, if there is one, will redeem her. If LA Ink keeps going like this, it will be remembered as a laughingstock show, if not already.
She's no longer the new "IT" girl, she's been around too long for that. It will be harder to get endorsement deals as time goes on.
As for High Voltage itself, TLC owns most of it. She'll probably have to start her own shop after the show to get away from them.
MBGrafix that is cool, I was not trying to change you mind just to show that what I saw was not base on any hatred towards Aubry. Lets just say I missed something and the client was not really ready and what Aubry did was right. I just feel that she did it more to get at or even with Corey then to actually help the client. I do hope that if she was ready and I do feel that she thought so that she will get it on another day. Do you think that Aubry, being treated as she is and not happy working there, that she should stay there and put up with it? I don't see Kat firing Corey and keeping Aubry but anything can happen on that show. I read in another post that there might be a NY Ink, if there is I will stop watching LA Ink.
I could not have said it better myself. If fact I have been thinking about this for a long time. First Corey is so self absorbed he cannot see beyond the nose on his face. As someone who is suppose to be such an integral part of the shop, I think it would've been required to behave as a professional and teach Aubrey what she needed to know about working in the shop, and what he expected of her. Instead he took an immediate dislike to her, and throws a temper tantrum about her. Instead of trying to talk to her like an adult, he behaves in a very passive agressive way. I think Dan says whatever he thinks Corey wants to here just to stay in his good graces and us a Wuss. He hates Aubrey just because Corey does. If you guys want someone to become a part of your family, then you have to begin by treating with a certain amount of respect, then go from there. Everyone has their weaknesses. All Corey does is moan, when he really needs to look inward. The behavior at this shop will virtually insure that the shop will fail. BTW where does Kat get all her money? She drives a relatively new Cadillac, owns a shop, and a house, and just bought a loft for her crafty things. From what I can see, she's just another Sunset Blvd. sad story.
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But it was proven by a 3rd party handwriting expert who DID confirmed she wrote it. 