Looks like the MvW troll is getting hungry, I'd better feed him before he get's to thin.


BIB, I don't get the same reaction watching MvW as you do, the very few episodes that I did watch, I spent a lot of time watching the clock to see when MvW would end.
(I happen to promise a few members on the MvW forum that I would watch a couple of episodes of MvW.)

I have yet to laugh at any one of Les's shows, seems we have a totally different sense of humor, take that back, I laughed when he did the stint about making a ukulele from a couple of coconuts.

hi. i am new here and my friend told me about thos site. im using his cmoputer for now until i get my own place. he lives very close to hte hills and im hoping i can move in next door as thers a sign that a flat may be open!

i watch man vs wild every week. im so greatful my friend records them an ive been catching up on the new season. its been a rough few months ha! anyways me and my friend disagree on some bits of the show. he thinks things are a bit misleading but we do agree on the fact that bear is inspirational whan it comes to survivol. i'm going to watch teh siberia episode now. has anyone seen it?

British special forces is pretty hard core, I used to work for a guy who was in it. However, MvW is definitely more staged and Bear is more of a showman. I think he *could* survive Survivorman-style whereas Les wouldn't even try some of the dangerous stuff bear does. (And he'd be smart to do so) There's a whole site devoted to these questions: http://www.beargryllslesstrouddeathpool.com
The main question is "who dies first" but there are other polls too, haha

i think we should just let them fight....you know bear would win...he's soooo damn good looking, he has alot more to lose, lol!

stevecoy

les doesnt hav the strength to do the stuff bear does

bear would tottally win

hey i never said he didnt sleep in a hotel or anything im just saying that bear is more physicly fit

Wait, Wait, Wait, Wait, Wait, the reason he has so much strength is because he can recharge at the motel he sleeps in, with a french cuisine.

"It's been said before, but "bears" repeating (sorry for the bad pun Mad) M-V-W is gonna get somebody killed someday. Gryll takes far too many reckless chances -- i.e. climbing the waterfall, the ice tunnel, the wild horse just to name a handful. I fear some viewer will find themself in a real-life survival situation one day, and be badly hurt or killed trying to emulate Da Bear. With Les, its always about staying alive while taking the LEAST amount of risk possible, not showing off what a bad azz Special Forces type you are. I pray Discovery budgets money for more Les (Confused) and less Bear shows."

This has been repeated over and over again. Find me the proof where Bear's advice has killed someone. I've heard of those, though that have used some of Bear's advice and have survived. I don't argue that some of Bear's may be a little over the top, but when one is in a survival situation they may have to do something over the top.

Yes the same old song and dance, and usually accompanied by a statement like this...

[quote]not showing off what a bad azz Special Forces type you are[/quote]

Indicating, they are somehow feeling threatened by Bear.LOL

bear is special forces?

claud, I have read many instances in my local paper recently about people being found dead in wilderness after leaving a perfectly good campsite, or vehicle trying to go for help. The irony is that in every story I read, the people who stayed put at camp/ shelter, or at the vehicle were found alive,and rescued. I've also read a story earlier this year about a hiker being found dead at a base of an ice cliff several days after his fall, that he was purposely trying to climb while out on a spur of the moment adventure without notifying any one of his undertaking.
At the risk of having this post deleted, Bear's adventures make for good tv and Les just makes for good survival.

I just assumed everyone knew to stay at whatever make-shift camp they could put together. SAR will see your vehicle, assume your path, and act accordingly.

Not the case from the recent tradgedies i've been reading about... Too bad really. Stop, signal, foridge.

[quote]I just assumed everyone knew to stay at whatever make-shift camp they could put together. SAR will see your vehicle, assume your path, and act accordingly.[/quote]

And why would you assume that strategy will work every time, It wont. Theres hundreds of survival stories where people survived only because they were pro active in getting THEMSELVES out.

Yes yes, I know, in many cases its good to sit tite and do your best to stay alive and signal for help. But I can think of quite few situations that would require someone to walk out on their own.

This is a dead horse, but:

Claude: look up James Kim. You'll find a startling number of similarities in methodology. I doubt he actually watched MvW, but the tactics he used are very, almost surprisingly, similar.

I watch Les when I need good pointers on surviving in the wild. I mean he's out there surviving alone and even with abundant food and water, if he gets hurt or cross paths with some wanted for homicide lunatic, he's on his own. Even with a satellite phone, Les has to wait for assistance and that could be hours to days in bad weather. And in the back of his mind, he knows this, too.

Bear is all action/adventure. He gets hurt, he's got a group of guys to haul him out to the nearest hotel.

Bear is fun to watch. Could get you killed if you put what he does into practice, i.e., jumping into flood swollen rivers, climbing when it isn't necessary up very tall trees, wrapping yourself up in a stinking deer hide that's freezing cold in a wet, cold climate, etc. He dramatizes what Les actually lives and suffers through for seven days.

I've been watching both shows now for about two years and though I prefer Les' show, I do watch Bear's show. Between both shows, I can get some good ideas if I find myself in another survival situation like I have had happen several times in my life. But, I am not jumping in a raging river unless I have a wild boar running after me and then I would be thinking as I'm running desparately for my life, "How do I get the hog in the raging water and not me?" Maybe Bear could do a show about that, about being pursued by a real (REAL) wild animal. Les knows what that is like. That jaguar that stalked him had supper plans with Les on the menu (South America show). I could hear the fear in his voice as he described using the night vision of his camcorder to get back to the village.

Now, somebody teach Les how to make a cast net, so he won't go hungry anymore when the salmon are practically at his feet and he has enough nylon rope to pull apart and make into a cast net using rocks or baked pieces of clay as weights for the net. (Kayaked into a backbay area in Canada show.)

[quote] This has been repeated over and over again. Find me the proof where Bear's advice has killed someone. I've heard of those, though that have used some of Bear's advice and have survived.[quote]

Seems safe to assume that if someone is dead they aren’t going to be able to blame anyone for giving them bad advice. I have also heard several stories where someone followed advice from the show and lived. But in every case it was obvious to me that either the advice made no difference whatsoever or they survived in spite of doing something they saw on the show not because of it. “TV show saves life” makes for a good headline; most media sources aren’t going to let little things like facts take away from a good story.

bowcatz: I just saw the jaguar episode and thought that he dramatized it a bit much. Jaguars will rarely attack humans. They get a really bad rap for being such solitary animals.

Also, I just saw him eat mushrooms that he "thought" were a certain type. WHAT!? Talk about bad advice. About 80% of mushrooms are toxic, so you should never eat it if you are not absolutely sure.

All in all, both shows are fun and intelligently made. Although, if you base all of your survival knowledge of a TV show, you have bigger problems.