ok well ive lived in about 5 house and everyone i have lived in has been haunted. the first one i lived in was evil! the relastate agent said that weird things had happened and many old cranky ppl had died there. as soon as we walked in, a heavy feeling of evil covered us. we bought it and lights, sounds, and strange things happened we cudnt explain. we moved and went to arizona. no haunting there. we moved again..an old ghost man lived there. we moved again and now an old man and a really young girl lives where we do now. our house now is farely new and no one has died in it. we all believe that the old man follows us. i have seen him. he is white with a long beard. he or the lil girl opens my doors at night, runs across my moms bed, and plays with my radio and tv by turnin the stations. when i tell her to stop..everything stops. ITS WEIRD! but i have seen the man starin at my brothers bed at night and it creeps me out! he was seen one night by my stepdad st his door (the door is right beside his bed). so i think the same cranky man follows us. i think arizona was too far for anything to follow! lol.

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Originally posted by shaybabe101: as soon as we walked in, a heavy feeling of evil covered us. we bought it

Why did you buy it if you noticed that immediately? I think I would have run from it like the plague

You know, I have heard that demons can hide within hollow objects, such as statuettes, and things like that. My friends parents recieved chi dogs from a friend when they lived on Okinawa. She said that as soon as they received them, things becan happening around the house that shouldn't be.. And her dad was a Baptist preacher. She said she didn't like the dogs but that her parents wanted to keep them because they were a gift. And apparently from what she said there is alot of mysticism over there.. to do with... well...not so good stuff... Anyway, another preacher friend who was speaking at my friends dad's church was staying with them. He got up in the morning to have coffee and study his serman for that service and said he kept feeling like he was being stared at. He said he was starting to get really concirned and began looking around for the source of the feeling. Said he happened to look behind him where the curio cabinet was which held the 2 chi dogs. He said all of a sudden the statues began growling and one barked at him... insane, I know it sounds. She told me that as soon as her dad woke up the other minister took him to the cabinet, and said, "you MUST get these OUT of your house, NOW!!" He then explained to him what happened and that he almost didn't believe it himself except for the fact that in the spiritual realm, anything is possible... He told them they needed to get rid of them immediately and never bring anything like that from another religion into the house again. Now, no one has to believe that....and it does seem impossible.. But it also seems impossible for alot of things in the paranormal to happen, though they do. And ofcourse that doesn't mean everyone has to believe that... Or that it's for everyone to believe... but... it could be explanation for ghosts that follow.....

Totally scary. What ever happened?
I know the feeling.

[quote]I have heard that demons can hide within hollow objects, such as statuettes, and things like that.[quote]

Wow gudiarani, that was a scary story. I remember my mother buying a statue once of a Buddha and I immediately didn't approve of it. Thank Goodness she got rid of it because I did not feel comfortable around it.

yeah... that's exactly the kind of stuff I was talking about... and I love Egyptology... but for that reason, I won't buy the statues, even though they look really cool...

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Originally posted by engineer_llc:
[quote]I have heard that demons can hide within hollow objects, such as statuettes, and things like that.[quote]

Wow gudiarani, that was a scary story. I remember my mother buying a statue once of a Buddha and I immediately didn't approve of it. Thank Goodness she got rid of it because I did not feel comfortable around it.

You were worried about a Buddha? Next to Christ, he was the most benevolent person in human history. He figured out that the keys to the Kingdom were in the virtues of faith, prayer, and a deep love of thy fellow man.

He even came up with the concepts of turning the other cheek, and monks who took vows of poverty and celebacy. There are even some Himilayan legends about a thirteen-year-old spiritual prodigy from the middle east they called Mahatma Isa, who followed a trade caravan to India and the East in the first century. Saint Isa told the gurus and holy men He studied with that He was a descendant of His country's greatest king, a giant-slayer, and that He had been born of a virgin, in the city the famous king had lived in and beneath a star that vanished from the sky shortly after he was born.
Sound like anyone we know?

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Originally posted by engineer_llc:

Wow gudiarani, that was a scary story. I remember my mother buying a statue once of a Buddha and I immediately didn't approve of it. Thank Goodness she got rid of it because I did not feel comfortable around it.

Buddha can be said to be a second Christ. He may have not been a Christian, but he was a Saint and held principles and ideas that compared to those of Jesus. I only hope no Buddhist see that comment. For If I was Buddhist I'd be offended...

Isn't it strange how many different cultures have a similar figure? Mithra is another one who is really close, and supposedly the Vatican is built on the grounds devoted to Mithra worship.

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Buddha can be said to be a second Christ.

Buddha came first, but Jesus was born enlightened.

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Originally posted by mysticone4life:

Buddha can be said to be a second Christ. He may have not been a Christian, but he was a Saint and held principles and ideas that compared to those of Jesus. I only hope no Buddhist see that comment. For If I was Buddhist I'd be offended...

Actually, it would not offend me in the slightest if someone said they didn't want a cross or a picture of Jesus in their home... I cannot expect someone else to believe exactly as I do, and be personally offended if they don't... I would only be offended if they started talking smack about Jesus, and saying bad things about him... nothing bad was said about Buddha himself.. though, I am more concirned about what God says than I am about someone else's feelings, and God said we are not to have any other God's before Him. Yes, I know that Buddha was not a god, but he started a system of beliefs that has nothing to do with Christ and does not even mension Him as the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Yes Buddha found the way... but which way, and where to? I cannot and do not need to say anything nasty or mean about what someone else believes... Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think I have ever called anyone else bad names for believing something different than I or saying anything trying to be deliberately offensive to them.. But... I also am not obligated to recognize what they believe as the truth.. I don;t have to. and it that offends them, (as long as I did not deliberately say anything offensive, like something bad about buddha, or buddism other than I don't have to hold it at the same level(personally) as what the Bible says because I do not believe it is the truth, there is only one way truth and life,) then they have a problem. It's ok to NOT pretend you think everyone's idea of truth is really truth...as long as you don't set out to be a toad and just be nasty about other poele's beliefs. If someone asks me do I believe in what Buddha taught about nervana, and do I believe buddhism is truth, I will say no, and that's not wrong... it IS wrong to dump all over someone else's beliefs and just be a jerk about it. And yes, mystic, I know that was not directed at me... But, I had to throw my 2 cents in.... dangit!!!!! now I'm broke!!

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Originally posted by eponamacha:
Isn't it strange how many different cultures have a similar figure? Mithra is another one who is really close, and supposedly the Vatican is built on the grounds devoted to Mithra worship.

Or the Hindu Kalki to the Returned Christ. The Vedic Indra to St. Michael. Even Lucifer to the Roman Veiove.

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Actually, it would not offend me in the slightest if someone said they didn't want a cross or a picture of Jesus in their home... I cannot expect someone else to believe exactly as I do, and be personally offended if they don't... I would only be offended if they started talking smack about Jesus, and saying bad things about him... nothing bad was said about Buddha himself.. though, I am more concirned about what God says than I am about someone else's feelings, and God said we are not to have any other God's before Him. Yes, I know that Buddha was not a god, but he started a system of beliefs that has nothing to do with Christ and does not even mension Him as the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Yes Buddha found the way... but which way, and where to? I cannot and do not need to say anything nasty or mean about what someone else believes... Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think I have ever called anyone else bad names for believing something different than I or saying anything trying to be deliberately offensive to them.. But... I also am not obligated to recognize what they believe as the truth.. I don;t have to. and it that offends them, (as long as I did not deliberately say anything offensive, like something bad about buddha, or buddism other than I don't have to hold it at the same level(personally) as what the Bible says because I do not believe it is the truth, there is only one way truth and life,) then they have a problem. It's ok to NOT pretend you think everyone's idea of truth is really truth...as long as you don't set out to be a toad and just be nasty about other poele's beliefs. If someone asks me do I believe in what Buddha taught about nervana, and do I believe buddhism is truth, I will say no, and that's not wrong... it IS wrong to dump all over someone else's beliefs and just be a jerk about it. And yes, mystic, I know that was not directed at me... But, I had to throw my 2 cents in.... dangit!!!!! now I'm broke!!

I thought I'd post that one more time for mystic to reread. Those are my exact feelings gudiarani. Thank you for that post.

Always glad to help.

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Originally posted by gudia.rani:


Actually, it would not offend me in the slightest if someone said they didn't want a cross or a picture of Jesus in their home...

I was referring to him comparing Buddha to a demon. Thats what the topic was about, demons entering icons.

I meant having it as an idol of worship. The Bible comandment says

Exodus 20:
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

That buddha did look like a graven image.

Oh ok. Those your beliefs so you have a right to them. But like I said, Buddha could have literally been Christ's brother. One appealing thing about Buddha statues in general is that he's always protrayed happy and smiling which has an uplifting effect, whereas Jesus is always portrayed sad. But we know why.

And to add another thing, whats to say a demon can't enter a graven image like the Buddha my mother had. Gudiarani's story makes perfect sense on the subject.

The same reason a demon couldnt enter an image of God or Christ. Their symbolic meaning is a pure one.

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Originally posted by mysticone4life:
The same reason a demon couldnt enter an image of God or Christ. Their symbolic meaning is a pure one.

Do you mean like statues of the virgin Mary or Christ. Because if you do those objects are also susceptible to demonic encounters. I consider them in the same reguards as I do the buddha statue. They are all idols.

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whereas Jesus is always portrayed sad. But we know why.

He is? Why?

Buddha represents spiritual enlightment, freedom from suffering, attachment(sin), and illusion. His principle is the Law of Karma: As you sow so shall ye reap. Think and act good deeds, and so shall they added unto you. Do or think evil, and so shall evil be done unto you.

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Buddha represents spiritual enlightment, freedom from suffering, attachment(sin), and illusion.

Jesus also represents enlightment and freedom from suffering. The difference being is that Jesus is the son of God and died for our sins whereas buddha was a man among men.