IMPORTANT NOTE: This is a story to discuss the PARANORMAL, not religion. This is a paranormal discussion forum, not a religious debate forum. I have kept my religious beliefs out of this story for the sake of discussing the paranormal factors ( because I know it's only going to spark a huge argument on this thread), and I would appreciate if everyone else did the same thing. I am not hear to listen to lectures about God, Christianity, why I'm going to hell or how to exorcise Demons. This is offensive to me and I will not be responding to people who lecture or otherwise respond in a negative manner.

After reading all the other posts, I'll contribute my true account, with witnesses, of my relationship with a spirit named Zaz. This is a true story:

When I was 15 years old, someone gave me a Ouija board for my birthday. Up until then, I only had a homemade board. I was absolutely delighted with it- I had played with one as a child and I remembered having great fun with it. I couldn't wait to try it again. All I needed was someone to assist me.
That night I sat in my room, doing nothing, and I glanced over at the board on the bed. I was so impatient! I didn't want to wait to use it tomorrow, when I could ask a friend to help me. I decided to take it out of the box, not intending to actually use it.
When I got it out, I admired the spooky look and sat down with it on my lap in the floor. I picked up the planchette, and placed it on the board. I placed my hands on it, remembering how as a child my young friend and I had used it very often, with good results.
As my hands were on it, I felt a change come over me. I became somber and serious, willing my hands to move. And the board changed - under my hands I felt the planchette gain a heavy weight, almost a magnetic feeling. I stared at it, watching intently. Under my hands I could feel it began to move - and I wasn't moving it on my own. It felt to me as if it were moving all it's own, and it made small circles on the board, over and over. I felt no fear and was instead somewhat exalted that it was working - and by myself! I wasn't aware it would actually work if I used it alone, so I was somewhat amazed at this phenomena. I began to ask questions; and I started getting very clear answers.

Me: Is there a spirit here?

Board: Yes there is a spirit here

Me: How many spirits are there here?

Board: 1

Me: Do you have a name?

Board: Yes my name is ZAZ ( whenever spelling 'Zaz', the planchette would very violently swing to the Z-A-Z letters with great force) Board begins again the small circles.

Me: Hi, Zaz. Thanks for coming.

Zaz: No thank you for inviting me ( this spirit was very coherent, good vocabulary, had a sense of wit and humor - now that I have much more Ouija experience, I know this is rare. I didn't know enough then to note that it was a sign that I was dealing with something powerful, aware, and intelligent. )

Me: Are you a good spirit, Zaz?

Zaz: Yes and No

I was fascinated.

Later I used others to assist me with the board, not because I couldn't use it alone, but because I was proud of Zaz and wanted others to speak to him, too. He would every so often do something rather unusual, like predicting who was calling on the phone, telling me where I lost a piece of jewelry, and answering questions from friends that I didn't know the answers to but could produce using the board by myself - at one particular session I remember clearly a rather frightening experience that for the first time made me realize Zaz was not the most positive of entities.
I invited a friend over to my house to spend the night, and we both sat down to talk to Zaz. It was her first time speaking to him, so she was excited. When we began using the board, at first it wouldn't work at all. I had no idea what was going on. I called for Zaz and it seemed that he was 'there'..you could feel the force or energy in the planchette. He just didn't want to talk. This puzzled me. I asked him what was wrong. When he acknowledged my question, the planchette VIOLENTLY flew from letter to letter, so much so that we almost couldn't keep our hands on it.

Me: What's wrong, Zaz?
Zaz: I DO NOT WISH TO TALK
Me: Why not? Are you mad at me?
Zaz: NO I WILL NOT SPEAK WITH HER HERE
I was surprised at this, and my friend appeared both angry and upset. I suspect she thought I was somehow causing this.
Me: Why not?
Zaz: I DO NOT WANT YOU HERE, SARAH
Sarah: Fine! I don't want to talk to you anyway! We'll talk to someone else.
The board came to a stop. I felt an ominous feeling in my nerves, a very uncomfortable tension. We both watched the board for a response. Finally:
Zaz: MAYBE I WILL COME TO TALK TO YOU INDEED I WILL COME IN THE DARK - WHEN YOU ARE MOST AFRAID
The Ouija board session came to a quick halt. My tormented friend became hysterical,ran out of the room, and refused to touch it again. I asked her what the big deal was - and she told me that she WAS afaid of the dark, and no one knew that. And it was a shameful secret that she had..and somehow, Zaz knew her worst fear. I asked him later how he could know her fears, and he said knew a great many things about the 'lives of humans'. I thought it was notable he used the word 'humans', since he seemed to be giving the impression that he was something different and somewhat more advanced.
Over the next six months, Zaz seemed to grow stronger.
I began having strange dreams - tornados, windstorms, fires, violent images of wolves, snakes and other creatures, some of which I have never seen anything like in my entire life. In my conversations with Zaz, he said we were growing 'closer' and that he was 'with' me all the time. He told me that one day I wouldn't need the board to talk to him. Instead of considering this rather odd, I thought it was fantastic.
He began to display feats the likes of which I could not possibly duplicate with all the knowledge I have aquired in my entire life. The theory I had that he could be a product of my own mind evaporated when he would tell me things that I couldn't possibly know or comment on something I knew nothing about. He directly told me that he was a 'Demon' but described himself as 'benevolent'- I had to look that word up before I knew what it meant. This impressed me very much, and I began spending huge amounts of time with the board, listening to him, talking to him, and asking him questions about things.

While talking to him one night, I asked him if there was any way that we could be closer, or if I could 'see' him. He asked me to do some things that were very specific - He wanted me to burn an incense with bones in it, then take some of my own blood and 'give it to him'. I did what he told me to do. I burned incense in a bowl with some bone chips in it, ( he requested that when I do this, I 'say outloud' that it was for him) and then proceeded to smear some blood around on a piece of paper with his name on it and burn it, too. These were very detailed instructions he gave to me, and said that this was the 'quickest' way to 'be together'.
After I did this, I felt nervous. I waited for something to happen. Nothing did. We talked a little more, and then I went to bed.
Later that night, at three in the morning, I awoke to the sensation of being totally paralyzed. I was seemingly wide awake, but I couldn't move at all. I could see everything in my room, even though it was dark. I had the sensation of someone standing just behind my head and out of sight beside my bed, but I couldn't move my head to look. I was terrified! My heart was pounding and I was scared, but I couldn't even move a finger. I heard something moving around in my room, and it sounded to me like someone moving between the closet and the head of my bed. I shut my eyes, trying to convince myself I was having a horrible nightmare. I struggled to move, and when I finally was able to move an arm, it seemed like my paralyzation was over. I snapped on the light, looked around, and saw nothing. Then I noticed my closet door was open. THEN I noticed that a jewelry box on my dresser was open. The next day when I asked Zaz about it, he said yes, that was him in my room. He had taken my silver bracelet, ' as an offering '. I never saw my bracelet again, and I knew it was there before this experience. When he said he took it, I believed him.
The end of my story is not really the end - I'm aware of Zaz to this very day. The end of my story is something that caused me to be wary of him, because he had an actual hold over the physical world in such a way that he could cause things to happen.
I had a small statue that I had created for Zaz ( he actually requested this) and at one point when things began to go horribly wrong, I decided to take it to the cemetery and bury it there. It was only one of the ways I was trying to 'seperate' myself from Zaz. I put it in the trunk of my car and my brother and I prepared to leave. When we pulled out onto the road, my headlights for no reason went out on the car. Then they came back on again. My brother looked weirdly at me, already being nervous about the whole thing, since he thought it was bizarre. Has we continued on, all of a sudden we heard a loud SMASHing sound, like that of a man smashing his fist into the trunk lid of my car. I almost drove the car off the side of the car in my surprise. My brother cursed and kept repeating over and over, " How can he be causing that? How is that possible? "
When we finally got to the cemetery after other weirdness on the way, I buried the statue and left. I heard no more from Zaz for the next four years, until I began communicating with him again.

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cemeteryangel:
I just read your post and the one thing that disturbs me are the steps that you were asked to do in order for you to "meet" Zaz. With the exception of some protection measures, these steps can be found in a book called "The Book of Black Magic". In my desire to understand the unusual, I find myself reading and investigating many different types of realms, that is why I own a copy of this book. I have seen from personal experience that some things in this book can be accomplished and can be very dangerous. Please take heed and be very causious when dealing with Zaz.

Just some helpful advice.

Isn't a demon a fallen angel?

Just that should explain that you should be careful.

There are many schools of thought and belief's on demons and angels.

One is like you said, demons are fallen angels. Another is also that demons are their own entities and angels are their own. And then there is the idea that demons are simply spirits of people who either in death or life were wronged in some form and still hold a grudge as it were.

You can find many books on the subject in the New Wave or alternative geligion sections of any major book store-(Borders, Barns and Noble, etc.).

Just my 2 cents on the subject.

First i would like to thank you for the tips on the ouija board. Second do you still have contact with zaz. Just wondering. Is there a way to control demons?

If when you say 'control Demons' you mean 'protect yourself', then yes, you can protect yourself. No one should be attempting to 'control' Demons.
I wouldn't attempt to control them.

Yes, I still have contact with Zaz. I was away from him for about four years before we began speaking again, at that point I had learned a little and I knew how better to conduct myself.

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Does Zaz still ask for favors?

What kind of deal are we talking about? Stuff or something else. And when you tire of a demon how do you get rid of him, just in case i need know, cause i am thinking of getting a Ouija board but have siblings and i don't want them to get hurt for me being careless.

kevin7557, the best protection and the only one that is 100% effective is to simply not use a Ouija board, or any other device or ceremony designed to achive similar results.

However if you are curious, the best advice I can give you is trust no one/nothing, give no information, no matter how trivial it may seem, accept nothing to be truth, even if the spirit seems to know things that are true about you. Doing this you will probably put-off many spirits, however you and your siblings will be mostly safe.

It sounds like all the fun is being taken out of it, but other protection measures can take up to a month to prepare for, depending on the form of contact you are attempting and are much more dangerous.

I hope this helps, if anyone else has any suggestions or ideas, I would be interested to hear them....

The thing you were describing about when you felt paralyzed while you were in bed, and heard someone moving around in your room is known as Sleep Paralysis, or "Old Hag" Syndrome.


If you want more information on it, you can go here. http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa112000a.htm

lovejeff87: Yes, every now and then when I'm complaining about something I'm having difficulty with, Zaz will offer to 'help'.



The process I had to go through to protect myself once I had angered Zaz was very long and drawn out and had drastic results. * I would like to point out here that while Zaz himself was a Demon, not all negative spirits you come into contact with are 'Demons'. Chances are, I seriously doubt that.* For other people it might be more difficult for a few reasons:
1. They may be terrified and have no idea how to go about protecting themselves
2. Even the spirit once angered and hostile may lie to you and tell you that 'there is no hope', then double the attacks against you to further despair
3. I have actually seen a hostile spirit go so far as to hurt other people who are trying to help, which further intimidates the one who needs help the most

Again, in my own experience, the best way to avoid the whole thing, like Rmsykes says, is to not attempt it at all. If you insist on trying it, read carefully the guidelines I listed for beginners using a Ouija Board.

Lil_china: I am familiar with 'Sleep Paralysis', but at the time that it first happened, I had never heard of it. I can also say that at that time, I had never experienced it until I invoked Zaz. I accept that what I was experiencing was a paralysis, but that wouldn't cause my jewelry to disappear or my closet to open up by itself. ( I had a huge closet with sliding doors on both sides.) Since I was supposed to be paralyzed, who was walking around in the dark going through my jewelry box, taking only one piece of old jewlery out of a box filled with expensive rings, bracelets, and necklaces? This may sound unscientific to some people, but I now have reason to believe that spirits can CAUSE sleep paralysis. This is not an outrageous theory to me. Zaz claimed that not only could they cause a wide variety of manifestations, but spirits can cause sickness, mental illness and suicidal thoughts if they so desire and depending on the power of their influence.

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Oh no, don't get me wrong. I wasn't trying to say that Zaz didn't have something to do with it. I was just trying to explain what you went through actually was.

cemeteryangel, i am glad that you have got things under control with zaz. I was just wondering Has he taken any more of your close belongings?

cemeteryangel, your experience with zaz kind of reminded me of something that happened to me as a child( one of many things)..I hate thinking about it, but I want to know what you think. When i was 10, my stepsister had just moved into our house and her and i shared a room..Well she had a lot of dreamcatchers hanging in the room and she was always reading books about ghosts and poltergiests...Well I always felt really weird sleeping at night so i always had the covers on tight.I awoke one night and it felt like i was suffocating like someone was sitting on top of me and poking me in the ribs..Then another day, her and I were sitting in the living room watching t.v. and all of the sudden the t.v. went off and the doorbell rang..she said "its my poltergeist"..She scared me sooo much..she eventually moved out 9 months later and it wasnt as bad around here..my question to you is what do you think was going on?? Was there really a poltergeist in my house?Could there still be one here?

Lil_china: I understand! I thought you made an excellent point there, because most people have never heard of sleep paralysis, much less hypnogogic hallucinations. Anyone who has experienced it will tell you that sleep paralysis is frightening!
LoveJeff87: On a regular basis, I will somehow 'lose' something that I know for a fact I had in a certain place. Over the years this has amounted to a decorative hunting knife (that kind of bothers me for obvious reasons..the thought of a missing knife seems ominous), a antique silver ring, a book on the occult that disappeared right off my desk, and most oddly of all a 'magic mirror' that had the glass taken out of it, with the mirror frame intact. I don't and can't even speculate on why a spirit would take these things. I never even got an explanation about these objects and can't even be sure if Zaz took them, since I have come into contact with 'spirits' on a somewhat regular basis. ( I spend a large amount of time attempting to work in trance states and using Ouija boards and pendulams in many different settings.)

I have witnessed poltergeist activity firsthand in my past, both through Zaz and what I believe were stress-oriented incidents. My family lives in the mountains and much of the land around us is old Cherokee Indian land, or Civil war battleground. At first I thought this had something to do with it, However, now I personally don't believe that location had anything to do with what I saw.

Many reseachers believe, and I believe, that *most* poltergeists are attached to a person rather than a location. It's also noted in most cases that the poltergeist is not an individulized entity but more of a 'force' emanating from the mind of the person involved. Some researchers also believe, as I do, that poltergeist activity can be both: In one case the poltergeist may be merely a 'force', mindless yet there, creating the problem, and in other cases poltergeist activity is observed during the presence of an actual spirit that is an individual entity with a mind of it's own. Most common are the manifestations around children near or beginning puberty. It seems to be more often girls than boys who are involved, but this is only an observation based on what limited resources I have studied.

It sounds to me like your stepsister had experienced some activity and was trying to find out more about it by reading about it. I think this because that's what I did later. I believe now that what I experienced was not actually a mere 'force' of poltergeist activity, but the same observations seen in poltergeist cases being caused by an actual spirit. The BEST way to observe whether the poltergeist is an individual entity are the manifestations of intelligence and self-awareness. The cases like the Enfield poltergeist bear a striking difference from other known cases such as the Bell Witch haunting because in one instance, the Enfield poltergeist was not known as an 'entity', or at least it never spoke to anyone or communicated in any way, while in the Bell Witch haunting the spirit was clearly intelligent, self-aware and able to communicate with others.
The BEST way to observe whether a poltergeist is attached to one person is to take that person out of the house. It's been observed over and over that if you remove the person afflicted, the poltergeist will OFTEN follow them wherever they go. If you noted that when your stepsister left, many of the problems seemed to cease, then chances are that it went with her when she was gone. One of the things you described to be seems to be very common - spirits turning the TV on and off. I've seen this a hundred times, and probably read about it three times as much. Some spirits with powerful energies CAN affect electrical appliances, and I personally believe the reason they so often play around with the TV is because it's one sure way to get noticed, and something about that particular appliance is easy to manipulate. Almost every time I saw my TV go on and off, I was actually watching it when it happened.
If the poltergeist left with her, then it should not still be in your home. Poltergeist activity often ceases without warning, or may go on for an indeterminate amount of time. If you DID still have one in your house, there would be no question as to whether it was there. You would *know* it was there because of the things that you would witness.

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thankyou cemeteryangel for all your advice..See the only reason why i thought that there may still be some kind of activity here is because years after she left, this may sound kind of silly, but our potato peeler kept disappearing..we would go out and get a new one,in a two pack,and they would be gone a few days after we got it. Also, I have been lying in bed ( a couple years ago), and we have wind chimes inside of our house in a doorway 6 feet in the air and they all of the sudden rang at like 2 am really loud and i was the only one to hear it..I went down the stairs to see what happened and they were still moving like someone had rang them,but everyone was asleep.Also, i was lying in my room about 4 years ago in clear daylight and my sister also has wind chimes in her room hanging off the ceiling and they rang by themselves and nobody was home but me.I have also heard a knock on the wall next to my room, which is my mothers room..I just dont know what is going on and i always seem so paranoid in my home..i mean i constantly look around when it is night time to make sure nothing is in a doorway looking at me..What do you think I should do??..and oh yeah,the doorway which had the wind chimes that rang in it that leads to the upstairs of my house (i took the chimes down) ALWAYS gives me the creeps..could something have happened in that spot long ago???

Anything is possible! When you're living in a place that you think may be haunted, you have to go with your own intuition, observations and instincts. You can also try to communicate with the spirit, IF you feel safe. You also have to remember that research, solid evidence and investigation is everything. Research the history of your land and your home - you might be surprised with what you find!

yeah i know that my house itself is over 110 years old, but i just dont think that i can try to contact anything,if there is anything..I am just too traumatized and scared from what happened when i was 5 to try to contact anything..I would faint if i saw something or talked to something.I have asked my mom to get a preist to bless the house, but she doesnt believe anything is in here.Of course, shes never had experience with a spirit like i have to understand how i feel, so thats why she doesnt believe anything is here.

Sometimes I think that it's not good to mess with spirits with that Ouija Board.

oohhkayy i dont mean to force my religion here but as a christian i know that demons lie and stuff----when he told you that he was benevolent---that was a lie---he is trying to trick you---STAY AWAY----plz for you sake--consult god or a priest or something and dont talk to "it"

cemeteryangel: Wow. What an amazing story. Have you ever considered writing a book? I was captivated by your account. You seem to be very enlightened about the topic of ouija and spirits. My question is: Can demonic spirits possibly influence depression, anxiety and thoughts of suicide? And, Have you ever heard of ancestrial curses? thanks again!

Slayel: I've thought about recording the entire story to keep a record for myself of the events, so I won't ever forget them. Then again, I doubt I could forget some of them even if I tried to.

Zaz told me himself that all types of spirits, if they so desire, can and do influence depression, anxiety, and thoughts of suicide. He also claimed that people who are thinking of these things on their own can attract 'like' negative entities who are drawn to that very negative energy. Many magick spells that request spirits, demons or Gods to bring about fortune, prosperity and happiness can affect 'positive' mental thinking in the magician or individual, thus bringing about the required effects. Some people attribute this 'mental euphoria' to the influence of positive spirits, while others believe it may be a product of the subconscious. Either way, spirits can create negative and positive emotions, feeings, or changes. Scientists will discount this, but in my personal experience I have seen things that have convinced me otherwise.

I have heard of ancestral curses. I also believe in them. Because I believe in the power of spirits and demons, I believe in Their powers to torment, curse, or otherwise affect physical changes in the world and against people. Hans Holzer presented a case in which a man was cursed with three dark spirits, who claimed to have been haunting him due to wrongs against them by one of his relatives over 200 years before!( See: Hans Holzer - Ghosts - The Wurmbrand Curse)

LoveJeff: There are ways to protect yourself from spirits, IF the manifestations are not the results of a infestation of lower level negative entities. If the spirit is not directly attacking you, it might be wise to leave it alone. However, if you are simply uncomfortable, you should take measures to protect yourself. This will aid you to feel more secure in your home.

Tornadosarecool: I have to honestly admit that Zaz was never hostile to me until I didn't follow through on something I had agreed to with him. I actually can't blame him, since I knew exactly what I was doing at the time.

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I don't to seem rude but most parnormal resurchers think that using a ouija very bad they don't use at all a good web site to go to it http://www.the-atlantic-paranomal-society.com/ yes these are the guys you see on tv but the web site is very good and helpful!

what was the last thing that zaz said to you?

...The last time that I spoke to Zaz, we were talking about his long absences, which he explained to me were to him really no time at all. He said our perceptions of time didn't apply to spirits in the same way, and that " the entire lifespan of one person is 'but a season' to Us'."

He also told me a bizarre tale about how when wars, global catastrophes and such on earth kick into high gear, both the higher and 'lower' spirits ( meaning negative entities) increase their numbers on the Earth, and try to influence people of power (presidents, religious leaders, revolutionaries) or cause events, and that "every day a spiritual battle is taking place", and even though we couldn't see it, "Wars in the heavens"( which I take to mean in our skies and around the Earth) are being fought.

During the course of the time I came to 'know' Zaz, I asked him questions about everything I could think of. I asked him about Heaven, I asked him if there was really a Hell. One thing he told me about Hell that was interesting was that people created their own Hells. I took that to mean that all the guilt, the fears and bad feelings you have on earth or committed on earth followed you into your Hell. He claimed that your life on earth is a progression of the spririt mostly, having little or nothing to do with the physical body, which he always referred to as the vessel or 'anchor'. He said that even the SMALLEST thing you do on earth, whether it be the smallest kindness, or the most insignificant bad thing you did made a difference where you would end up when you died. He DID say reincarnation existed.

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cemeteryangel: Did you ever get the chance to ask zaz about Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha or any biblical questions?

CemetaryAngel: Your Story is Amazing. I am not a religous person, but after reading all your comments, I don't know how many times I made the sign of the cross.
And I was always considering trying to experiment with a Ouija board, but you surely changed my mind. I think I will just live vicariously through you, concerning the paranormal.
My Question to you is Why do you keep going back to experiment with the paranormal? It seems like you devoted a lot of your time to this, And not all of your experiences were good.
What is it that keeps you going back, and why? If everything you do in this life affects were you go in heaven, aren't you in a sense creating your own demise? I do not mean to sound pessimistic, but it looks to me that you live more in the paranormal, then the normal? Anyways, I really enjoy your stories, it has made me believe there is really a god, so please tell me more. What other spirits have you been in contact with?

I read your story a was compelled to reply. I have never used a ouija board, but heard many storys. I'm a little curious how this "demon" communicates with you. Do you use the planchette and board to spell out words (this seems like a long tedious process), or is there verbal communication?

Also, the name ZAZ que'd a mental note about an ancient demon from the Old Testament named Azazel. Notice the similarity aZAZel. Your so-called "demon" may have taken part of Azazel's name, or it may be Azazel himself. In modern times, the name Azazel was used in Denzel Washington's hit movie Fallen to describe a demon that needed humans to stay "alive".

Anyway, If you are communicating with a true demon (non-human entity) be very careful. Demons mix truth and lies to confuse you, but their goal is always negative. Bear in mind that since you've created this bond with him he may be waiting for your spirit when you die.

I have never used a ouija board before but it sounds interessting. Do you just call out into the world that they come from and see who answers?

C-Angel, I'm all for you getting like a blog of your own.I noticed you have not written in a while. hope all is OK? I've read a lot of stories, but only your stories give me the chills, literally. Not in a bad way, but i guess they are just really captivating and detailed, for a person like me that has not dealt in the paranormal.Anyways, keep safe.

thank you very much for the advice cemteryangel

I think I almost had a heart attack when I read this. Why? I've talked to Zaz, too. It was a few years ago when I did, though. It was at a friend's sleepover and we decided to pull out the ouija board to have a good time and...We ended up with Zaz. We didn't really believe it was real, though, so we had fun and laughed about it. I got a little creeped out when he was able to tell us what color my eyes were.

Supposedly, one of my friends is the reincarnation of the woman he loved and everytime we'd tease her about anything(jokingly, of course), he'd get mad. He wasn't too happy with me, either, because I was laughing a lot. He told me he hated me and I apologized for laughing. We stopped playing shortly after that and didn't play again for awhile.

Then, a few months later, I believe, that same friend's younger sister and her friends used the ouija board and ended up talking to Zaz. He said one of the girls there was the reincarnation of his killer and he started asking them to leave the room one by one. And they did, too. I think there were two of them left in there when the older sister told them to stop what they were doing (as soon as she found out what was going on) and they said 'goodbye'. The next morning, her pentacle necklace that had been on her dresser was cracked in half and the beeds were everywhere.

And now, knowing that someone else has talked to Zaz...Well honestly, that just blew my mind.

i decided to postpone getting a ouija board. Anyway i have spirits in my house. I have heard them talking in our backroom which is our game room. mostly for video games. I have seen a full body aperition in our kitchen. I have seen shadows and orbs. It is summer break so my sibblings are home all days and the activity has slowed down. My brother saw a face floating float into our kitchen he ran outside to me. I would like to open a line of communication with them what would you recommend. they are kinda playful one time one got involved with a prank i was playing on my brother with taping on our back door. I raise my hand to tap and there was a tap. I don't think they are bad but what do you think.

kev, I don't know how old you are, but just beware that if you open a door, you don't know what you're getting nor do you know what you're getting yourself into. Be prepared for it to be bad as well as good if you want to go there.

I just joined this group just , first.to talk to the guy that said he spoke to Zaz? I know him, well not know him but I have spoken to him. I thought he was saying Azaz as in the demon of Letters and words or something, he was supposed to be a fallen angel. If your story is true I think I am in big trouble, either that or I am going insane. I started playing with it when I was 19 and he always wanted to talk. We always asked him dumb questions thining it was one of us until he started telling me stuff no one but I knew. The only good thing I got outta this hell is him tellingme that my boyfriend at the time was cheating on me with a girl named barbara and I would find her number in his pocket 3 months later, and sure enough. Ever since I spoke with him my daughter, who was NEVER present at the time, would always go up to something and talk to them saying that they need to leave, they weren't allowed. To this day she still wakes up and tells me that He keeps waking her up and she sleeps in either my bed or her little sisters bed bacause she doesn't want to go away with him. I have nightmares everynight that i cannot wake up, move or anything but i am aware of everything around me, like everything is the same just dark. I would have dreams of me on fire or being stared down at in my bed. I wake up at 3 am everymorning to something touching me. I have done it before, by myself which you should never do, and i still find him on there. I have even read my tarot cards and they are NOT good. I decided to find out more and found this. so if anyone can help me i would really like a heads up.

First of all I think that your story deserves a reply because your story is pretty incredible.

How is it that your not scared of talking to a entity that is evil. Do you seriously think that * ZAZ * is your friend in all of this ?

AS for me. I had my own experiences with a ouija board and will never put myself in that situation again.

I think it's OK for someone to play the ouija board for fun and to see what happens cause we all like to have a good scare. However when you're starting having conversations with a demonic entity on a regular basis well I'm sorry but that's freaky and you need to do something else with your spare time.

Sorry to be so blunt but thats my opinion.

hey cemetary angel I think I have the only suitable answer to your question on how to control a demon. To protect yourself from a demon you simply just pray in Jesus' name, and if you arent already a christian take this opertunity to ask Jesus into your heart.
This may anger the demon, but it will also prevent it from harming you or becoming stronger within you. If it becomes to strong I fear It may possess you. (P.S. Ill pray for you)

Dear cemetaryangel
I believe the only way to protect yourself from the fury of this demonic spirit is to pray in Jesus'name. If you are not already a Christian I recomend that you take this opertunity to ask the lord Jesus into your heart.
This may anger Zaz but it may also keep him from doing you harm. I believe that if he becomes too strong in your life he may be able to take control of (or posess*)you. I fear for you, and I will pray for you.
a concerned person,
MK
as you may call me

Cemetaryangel.....notice how zaz got mad when you did not do his bidding....he is trying to get to you or your soul....and then when he did not get his way he snapped.....i am soo afraid of demons so i would have bailed out by now if i was you.....so you have courage....i agree with godsprophet perhaps you should pray....it seems that he does not have good intentions

spooky story though----this really kept me up at night

cemeteryangel, I just read your story and well to say the least surprised. Look I'm not really religous or anything I once was thrown out of church because I questioned the bible. But I do believe in God. And what your doing with this ZAZ and a oujia board are dangerous. I would question things when asked to give blood to him, and jewelry that just dosent sound wise. You don't strike me as a crazy person but I wonder why you continue. I do belive in good and bad and I fear that you are connected with bad and that eventually you will become so involved that ZAZ will have a hold so strong on you, you will not be able to break free of him. If you believe in him then I shall assume that you somehow believe in God in one form or another and I can tell you that you don't progress up by reincarnation, you learn for god and everything that you do isn't held aganist you imagine a mean vengeful god. Wouldn't that just be special, when most christans tell you he loves you no matter what, if he can forgive serial killers then you should be safe if you stole candy from the local store. I personally believe that "Hell" is here where else can you suffer so much, feel so much and acomplish so much the idea of a guy in a red suit poking you in the bottom with a pitch fork is hard for me. But hey I could be wrong but I really worry for you with the oujia board and this ZAZ please stop.

I've been away for awhile, and it appears that quite a few people have responded to this story while I've been gone - I'm going to attempt to answer any questions someone may have asked or anything that was commented on in my absence. Note: I'm going to list the names of the posters so that it will help ease any confusion on who I'm responding to, and hopefully I won't keep seeing the same questions.

Slayel: I seriously tried to ask Zaz about everything I could think of. He would often respond in jest. One time when I asked him a question about Jesus, he told me to 'Go ask Jesus!'...I'm still not sure if he was saying that to make me laugh or if he was getting annoyed with my questions.

islandmon69: I 'experiment' with the paranormal because I would call myself an amateur paranormal researcher. Lacking having any fancy equipment, I've been studying the paranormal for over 15 years. I do live 'more in the paranormal' than the normal. I prefer it that way, it's much more interesting. I've been in contact with many spirits, mostly through the Ouija, trance state and passive channeling, which is possible for almost anyone to do.

Jbravo103: In the beginning, I used the Ouija Board and planchette. Talking to the spirits in this manner WAS a tedious long process, because their spelling was so atrocious and they spelled so slowly. Zaz, on the other hand, had a better vocabulary than I did at the time I met him, and also he spelled very, very quickly. Later, I dreamed about him and could actually hear him. Mostly, I stuck with the Ouija.
What you say about the Hebrew root name 'Azazel' containing 'Zaz' is relevant and an excellent point. I myself noticed this some years ago. I asked Zaz before if his 'name' was short for Azazel or Zaziel( another spirit, Saturnine), and he replied it was not.
Personally, I don't believe in the 'waiting for my spirit' thing, but knowing other people do is somewhat fascinating. And creepy.
Dragon67: Yeah, pretty much like picking up the telephone and dialing a random number.
Islandmon69: Thank you, I appreciate that. I'm totally fine, I've just been away for an extended vacation.
LoveJeff87: You're welcome, my dear.
Soundscape: I'm not sure how to explain this, but the way you describe the entity you were speaking to that was calling itself Zaz sounds completely different from the Zaz I know. Literally nothing you said even reminded me of him - especially where you said something about;
"..He said one of the girls there was the reincarnation of his killer and he started asking them to leave the room one by one.."

HIS killer? The Zaz I know has never even lived on earth in a body. He's never been born, much less killed. If this WAS the same Zaz that I know, it sounds to me like he was having fun with you and your friends. I say this because I watched him tell one skeptical friend of mine that she was going to die in a car accident on the way home, which made her act weird and nervous for the rest of the night...and on the way home, nothing happened. This goes back to my rule #7 in my top ten rules for Ouija Board users: DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING THEY TELL YOU. All I know is the spirit you're describing sounds nothing like Zaz, except the part where he tells people to do things just to see if they will react or actually do something.
Kevin7557: If the spirits in your house are bad, you're going to know about it for sure. If not now, then eventually. All spirits will reveal their true colors, given enough time.
Freckler: Good advice.
Angeljuvelene: I'm not a guy, I'm a woman who spoke to Zaz. Secondly, one thing I DID see Zaz doing was revealing things about people that were 'secrets'. He sometimes knew people's worst fears. He would 'tell' on people when they were lying. This was something that he was very good at. I'd have to know more about this entity you are talking to before I could even offer advice. One thing, though, and I've said this before: CHILDREN are very susceptible to spirits. Watch your children, ask them questions. They may be witnessing more than you think. One thing you said that reminds me of something is one of the aftereffects of me 'talking' to Zaz was serious sleep disturbances: False awakening, sleep-walking, nightmares, etc. You may have a negative spirit around yourself if you are experiencing these unpleasant sensations. And it won't matter how long you wait to use the board, whether it's days or years - THEY don't have the sense of time we do, and they'll still be there on the board when you pick it up again. You seriously need some help if you have no idea how to protect yourself. If I can help you in any way, email me at mydarkangel3@yahoo.com...
Papillion77: Quote - " How is it that your not scared of talking to a entity that is evil. Do you seriously think that * ZAZ * is your friend in all of this ? "

First answer: I'm not afraid because I simply don't fear the paranormal the way most people who are hiding under their covers do..when I see a ghost, I'm going to try and photograph it instead of screaming and running away from it..
Second answer to the second question: First of all, I think your question is rather huffy, preachy and hostile. Likewise, you advising me what to do with my spare time is like me coming into your home and telling you to stop doing whatever you do IN YOUR PRIVATE TIME. Rude! And thanks for your opinion.
Godsprophet: I never asked how to control a Demon. I don't think anyone SHOULD be attempting to control Demons (unless you are TRYING to get a huge forthcoming bout of misfortune), and I stated that in a different post. And thanks for the prayers, I need all the positive energy being sent my way as much as possible.
Tornadosarecool: Actually, Zaz responded in a way I might have responded if, for instance, a friend borrowed money from me, then promised to pay me back by Friday. Well, if Friday rolls around and my friend admits having had no intention of paying me back, I would think I'd have been angry, too. It seemed a pretty human response to me, except for the fact that another human can't almost drive me insane with nightmares and delusions when I've angered them.
Yadens03: It sounds to me like we both have different concepts of 'God', the afterlife, and so on and so forth. I don't find this surprising, but I am continually amazed when I see people telling me to 'break free' from Zaz and 'having a bond' with him. I stated in my original story that I DID 'break free' ( in a sense, but not in those words - more like 'tried to protect myself after I pi$$ed him off) from Zaz..I'm not walking around like some demoniac with Zaz controlling my thoughts. I imagine a mean, vengeful God because I've read the Old Testament and if I had one dollar for every time God threatened to kill everyone or force someone to eat their own children, I'd be as rich as Mel Gibson.

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Welcome back CemetaryAngel, I was beginning to wonder if you were long gone or just on a break..you post a lot and seem to have a lot of good advice for people, through knowldge and experience. I have a question..did you get help for Divine2me? I am a new poster(child-ha I think of that when I hear this new term "poster")and from what I have read, she/he seemed to be needing help.I was concerned and knew she/he had asked you for help.

Thank you, Freckler.. I'm glad to be back.

The advice that I offered Divine2Me ( if I'm remembering this correctly), was concerning the fact that she was suffering from an infestation in her home...I had asked her if she lived in an apartment or a house. In my experience, apartments are almost impossible to 'clean', mostly because there's the rest of the building to worry about. You may push the negative entity out of your own apartment, but chances are it's still going to be around.

She DID tell me she lives in a house...I have an excellent guideline to follow when you discover your house is haunted:
The two main things are comfort and safety- whether or not you are comfortable with a ghost in your home, and whether your home is a safe place. If it's not attacking you, or anyone else, and isn't making your life miserable, and it seems to have no maleovent intentions, I personally would leave it alone, or try to discover more about it. Some people simply won't be comfortable knowing there is a ghost in their house and may want it out, and again this all goes back to personal preference and how comfortable you are with a ghost in your house.

Hello everyone it is me and to answer someones question i am 17 years old. first of all angeljuvelene: it sounds like you are in deep trouble. i would try getting a cathic preist to come in and do a blessing. also putting up a couple a jesus crosses on the doors would do wonders for you protection. and an idea i came up with but luckilly have never had the chance to try out is to get a scrert bottle and get some holy water and fill the bottle with it and spray it in your daughters room. also try tellin the entity to leave your daughter alone. there might be a huge battle over domminion but hopefully you will win. Best of luck to you.

yadens03: you got kicked out of a church for questioning the bible. sorry to hear that i don't go to church my self.

godsprophet: hi gods prophit i wanted to tell you something. CemitaryAngel is not going to hell. only evil people go to hell. and that is evil at heart.

CemetaryAngel: thanks for telling me that. how would i talk to them though. I would like to find out if they are dangerous also i have a few questions for them about the paranormal and the other world. Also is the creepy feeling like someone is watching you normal. it kinda feels wierd expecially when i am typing on this sight. Should i be worried? thanks for you time. also i have a question about zaz that angeljuvelene said that she was talking to zaz. is this true? Just wondering.

Hi this is my second reply my first didn't go through for some reason. anyway. angeljuvelene be carefull it sounds like your going to have some problems but you should try getting a priest to bless the house. put up jesus crosses in the doorways to ensure that you and you daughter are safe. never leave your daughter alone it will get her. I have heard of a case where i older boy was taken and never seen again. If you stay with her she should be fine. hopefully. i can't garrenty it. but try having her baptised that lets holy energy in and keeps them out. i have to get babtised again.
Cemetaryangel: Hi it is me again and i need to know if the creepy feeling when they are watching you is normal. also i need to know how to start talking to them i have questions i would like to asked them.

cemeteryangel I am glad your back!!! yeah when i saw that angel.. called you a guy, i was going to say something,but i thought that i would leave it up to you because i knew you couldnt be a guy..you sounded too much like a woman

sorry about the double post thing. i didn't read the message at the end of the reply and thought that my computer had screwed up again when i posted it.

Kevin7557: I believe that ghosts are not much different from people..they used to BE people, just like you and me. Are they TRYING to communicate with you? Not all ghosts want to chat with you, and some may even avoid you. If they seem willing to communicate, you have limited options on how to talk to a spirit, at least until someone invents a ghost-phone. Those options are:

1. Ouija board - this is tricky, to say the least. Read my guidelines for beginners to see why. If you insist on using one, try to follow the 'rules'.
2. A good physical medium - which is almost impossible. People who can both see and hear the dead are not common. Very rare, in fact. Also, there are a lot of frauds out there, and you have to be careful to watch out for mediums who want money for their services.
3. The spirit may contact you in a dream, which is very common for me personally. Pay attention to your dreams in this house. They may also contact you in other ways, so be alert.
Be patient, and find the method that works best for you.

The 'feeling' people get that someone is staring at them is in my experience one of the most common things about hauntings. I lived in a haunted house where I had that feeling on a regular basis, and it was very strong. I literally felt like someone was standing right in front of my face and glaring at me. This feeling is no different from the feeling you get that someone across a crowded room is looking at you. This may be an indicator for you, which means it's one of the feelings you'll get that let you know a spirit is around.

It was SoundScape that claimed she had been talking to Zaz. All I can say is the Zaz she described on the board sounded nothing like the Zaz I know personally. She also said a bunch of stuff about 'Zaz said some girl reminded him of 'his' killer' which makes no sense to me. Zaz told me he's never been born or died, so maybe it's another spirit calling itself Zaz, or maybe it WAS Zaz, and he was just messing with her and her friends. Either way, it's possible, but I doubt it. I would be surprised if it were actually him, the same one I know.

LoveJeff: Thanks! I missed the board while I was away. Yeah, the calling me a man thing confused me for a minute, but it's not the first time that's happened. The Internet can be misleading.

Yeah alot of people also think im a man because of the name Jeff in my user name, but it actually says LOVE JEFF as in i love jeff..lol..

cemetaryangel: I'm glad your back. I was getting worried. I have got an interesting story for you and would like your opinion. I am a police officer and annualy attend inservice at our training center/academy. Our academy used to be an insane asylum and has since been remodeled and refurbished entirely. I had a dorm room to myself and always sleep with a fan to block out any noises. I had just got out of class and decided to take a nap. I locked the door , turned out the lights and turned the fan on. About 10 minutes past and the fan stopped working. I got up thinking that the power may have been off in the facility. I walked over and hit the light switch and the lights came on. I checked the fan and it had been turned to the off position. It baffled me for a moment, but I turned the lights out and turned the fan back on. I was lying on the bottom bunk facing the wall when something struck me with such force that I was vaulted across the bed. I put my hands up to keep my face from striking the wall. I immediately turned around ready to confront the person resonsible for this, but no one was there and the door was still locked from the inside. I left the academy and went to a local motel for the remainder of the week. I have never stayed there since. What do you think this encounter was?