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I don't buy the Mozart killed by a Jackal (or any other predator) theory. Wouldn't a jackal have eaten her after the kill. I know Mozart's body was in shadows but the shape looked intact to me. Does anyone know?

Out of all the Meerkats, Mozart seemed the most human to me. her life was full of tragedy and disappointments. I have to say her death struck me more than Flowers because she tried so hard to be a leader, mother, lover but never reached her goals.
 
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She really was predated. Not just on MM but the researchers have said so as well. They tend to tell the real stories.
They're guessing it was a jackal, who DO have a habit of just killing another, like a Dog on a squirrel or Opossum.
 
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Ok, never mind. I just came across this:
This comes from Athena on the "Back From KMP" thread on the main board.

"So, guess I owe you this one.....
KMP assumes that Mozart was predated by a raptor. Unfortunately, while looking for Mozart, KMP found some of her remains in a tree along with her identification.
Again, it was yet ANOTHER blow to the folks at KMP.
Personally, I thought that Mozart had the soul of an angel.
I also believe that Animal Planet handled her demise in a tasteful manner and respectfully. She deserved it."
 
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They showed a different meerkat's body. Just like they did at the beginning of Three Degrees of separation with Carlos's body. It wasn't his either. It was too plump to be Carlos, at least, that's what I think. Mozart was killed by a raptor. The researchers found her remains and identification in a tree. Sean said that it was probably a jackel as an excuse to why her body was on the ground. They were hiding the truth because they didn't want to show us her remains in the tree. That would be too graphic and some probably wouldn't beleive that it was really Mozart.

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Hey ya'll, I'm glad someone mentioned Athena's post. It's hard to accept, but as small as she was I'd like to think it was a rapid death.

We have bald eagles out on the dock fishing and they certainly seem to kill their prey quickly, so thats what I'll try to take with me. That she died quickly and is finally beyond pain and any grief. My question NOW is, what happened to Wilson? Was ANY of that story true? Anybody know?
 
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I, too, am glad someone mentioned Athena's post. I tend to believe the researchers over what AP portrays. I'm not sure that it wasn't Carlos' body. It was in the same position and he did have a collar on. Doesn't much matter, though.

All I saw about Wilson was what pronker (I think) wrote. She said that tragically, Wilson died 2 months after Mozart. She didn't say how.

I'm more interested to find out how Jim Bob/Hannibal died.

Despite his eye, or maybe because of it, I really liked him.

I also really like the one-liners that Sean says about him.
 
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I don't understand why AP needs to feed us a different storyline to soften the blow. If Mozart was killed by a raptor and not a jackal, they didn't have to show us the body. We don't need to see her remains hanging on a tree but they could have explained the events of her death at the end. By feeding us an alternate ending, aren't they aware that they are creating unnessary controversy? We're all adults, we can take the truth. How she died didn't matter so much since the outcome was unfortunately the same, the loss of a beloved meerkat.
 
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Elaineintheus..I absolutely agree with you.

at wikipedia it says that sweet Mozart died in April. It also says that Kinkajou died in "early 2007'. That means that Mozart was supposedly on her own for at least 3 months. Tho that seems unlikely to me.
I also wonder if she even did have an encounter with Wilson..or was with him for a longer time then the show describes.
I wish they'd do a better time line, and tell us the truth.
I am truly devastated over her loss.

Sleep well little Mozart. The sweetest girl on the Kalahari. You deserved so much better.
You'll be so sadly missed and remembered.
 
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[quote]I don't understand why AP needs to feed us a different storyline to soften the blow[/quote]

i dont know.. i would rather of enjoyed the little love story death then hear that my poor mozart was found eaten in a tree..

keep in mind this was the fav cat of 98% of the viewers after flower died.. the shock of the truth may have killed the show so they had to be very very light with it.
 
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well, any way that sweet Mozart death occured would have been heartbreaking. So, I would rather think she had some happy time with Wilson.
I just wish it wouldn't have happened. She was always my favorite. It was hope for a happier fate for Mozart that I watched the show.
Not that I don't watch the others..

missing sweet Mozart.
 
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Yes Mazart was on her own for a while. I just started watching Meercats. Of course they are repeats at this time. Today is, September 11, 2009. I never new about the show. Yesterday Flower died, I was taking my little girl to ballet and did not get to see that episode,so I had to research to find out what happened, and came upon this website. Mazart is on her own as of today in the repeats. You would need to tune in at 3pm, Eastern time to AP. Marzart was with her two sister and the only ones left of the starsky gain, her sister died in the hole over night while they took cover there, and her other sister turned up missing after the commanders chased them. As of yet, on the repeats, Mazart has not died. She tried to rejoin the whiskers, but they chased her away. I feel sad for mazart,I know her story, since she was evicted, and her mother, flower was a strong leader. I wish that the people filming could have taking her in, and protected her, but I know they cannot.
 
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Please forgive me, but the spelling is M-o-z-a-r-t.
m.j.
 
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Yo

The goal of every meerkat born is to continue their family lines through pups.

While Mozart lead the difficult life of an older subordinate female and never truly became a dominant, she did succeed through her offspring as her son, Wollow, is the dominant male at Lazuli; fathering pups with Young and her daughters Ms Lily the Pink and Ju Drop started a new group, Toyota; where Lily is now the DF bringing new pups into the world. This is best tribute to the strength and courage of sweet, caring Mozart.

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jtutton_99..jim bob had TB and was put down to try and stop the spread of TB in that group... guys wilson is not a real meerkat ..he is an AP name played by several meerkats like carlos and houdni. also they dont know if our sweet little mozart was killed by a raptor or if she died of TB and was only scavenged by the raptor they were not there when she died. ( all the starskys had TB thats what killed carlos aka JD,kink and the rest )
 
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A raptor (or any aerial predator) is the most likely cause of Mozarts death as her head an radio collar where found in a tree. She probably did have TB as she was shown 'thinning' with Kinkajou - a common symptom of TB although MM put it down as starvation. The Mozart shown later with a rover was 2 totally different kats.

Zarathrusta probably had a similar fate as his head and radio collar were found in a tree - this was portrayed on MM showing a radio collar on a branch (obviously placed there) to symbolise Zarra's demise.
 
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Jim Bob died of TB in April 2007, and Rhian Vivian (the first Nikita on MM), his DF died of TB in November 2007. The group was last seen after her death since the several remaining members probably had TB. A group is not followed without a DF.

As much as individuals don't want to accept it, Mozart probably had TB as well.
 
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Interestingly, it was never mentioned that Mozart showed signs of TB.
 
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No, it was never mentioned. But judging by looking at a thin Mozart when it was her that was still shown on MM (and not some other meerkat toward the end) with Kinkaju just before Kinkaju died, and that probably no meerkat in the Starsky had any immunity to TB, it is plausible that Mozart had TB. We know how TB ravages whole groups in a short period of time.
 
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Since TB causes a great deal of pain and suffering, I'm glad that Mozart's death was swift. Honestly, not a day goes by when I don't think about her. Considering that Kinks and "Carlos" had TB, Mozart did probably have it, but MM probably wouldn't mention it unless she died from it.
 
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MM never mentions 'TB' it's known as 'disease' or 'seriously ill' Basil / BigSi Vivian/Lazuli was 'seriously ill and died' on MM - he had extensive TB symptoms and was euthanised. His DF Cazzana was euthanised a couple of months later. I think Mozart had TB.. Carlos's face wound 'in a fight with Hannibal' was really a postule on his face. Kinkajou and the real Mozart where shown thinning, another symptom. It's unlikely Mozart would not be TB positive.. I honestly don't know about Shoy Lazuli's condition, he may have just quit (as all founding males who formed Starsky quit their previous group) or he may have had TB. A good example is Hoppla - males just vanished, maybe they were ill but maybe they were not. In KungFU, Clinton Baptise quit along with wild males and was never seen again (probably his biggest mistake ever given the groups success) but my point being - sometimes we just do not know.. in KMP the most common cause of death is 'unknown' as most Meerkats just vanish with no explanation.
 
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It's only if a meerkat is observed having obvious TB signs that the researchers say that it is TB. That's what ninjamom1 meant about Mozart: that it was never officially declared that she had TB.

I think it was mentioned that all the Hoppla had signs of the disease.
 
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