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Senior Member
Registered: 01-23-04
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I know this isn't a popular topic, but I want to know if we were actully winning the war. All I hear is reports from reporters who didn't know what was going on. I want to know from a military point of view if we were winning the Vietnam War when we pulled out.I know we pulled out because of the hippies who didn't relize war was so bad.
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Registered: 03-28-05
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We were winning the war. We hadn't lost a single battle. THe TEt Offensive was a total loss for the NVA.
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Registered: 05-24-05
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Multiple ways to define winning. Yes, we were winning from a military viewpoint, but our morale was in the dirt, and just as the terrorist bombings in Iraq are hurting us today, guerrilla groups there were hurting us as well.
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Registered: 06-03-05
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Could have been and Would have been won had the White House not micromanaged the war from there desks. Johnson and Macnamara cost us alot in that war!
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Registered: 05-24-05
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Even though we had to pull out I think we did learn a lot from that war. It's just too bad that they haven't used that knowledge yet... You would think that seeing how well guerilla groups could preform we would be more apt to use them
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Registered: 09-10-05
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It was all about the sixties and flowerpower. Jane Fonda, Joan Baez and the likes against cultural selfconfidence, sound judgement and cynical geopolitics. The feminisation of the west is about to make us very vulnarable. We are no longer allowed to fight, and the main part of the media establishment is doing its part to make us weak.

I am from Denmark, and I can tell you that here in Europe, rhings are pretty bad. We have so many hostile moslems in our societies and the political correctness and the feminine way of thinking, are preventing us from solving the problems the natural way. The moslems think we hate our culture, how can they be expected to blend in? (I know this stuff is highly controversial)

All modern wars start with politics..

(sorry for the language errors)
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Registered: 05-24-05
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Just wanted to post something i heard:

"Do you think we could compare the iraq war to Vietnam?"
"No, of course not. In vietnam they had a government, and we were fighting their army."

THIS IS WORSE. We have no one to bomb and no one to negotiate with.
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Registered: 03-04-05
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I am not sure of this but my friend said that the US could of won if the UN allowed the Air Bombing on North Vietnam's Capital. I am not totally sure of this.
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Registered: 03-30-07
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Even though we won, we got a bloody nose to say.
as someone has already said, we won from a military perspective. but why where we there in the first place????????? Confused
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Registered: 04-19-07
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We were winning the battles but not the war, which was a conflict centuries old ("North" and "South" were ancient adversaries--Europeans supported one side of the other as early as the 16th Century, although the eary conflicts were more tribal in nature rather than ideological). It was a complicated war and a complicated time in our history with many policital and social upheavals going on. As long as North Vietnam remained intact we stood little chance of bringing the war to an end. Unfortunately, the South spent more time fighting each other than they did the North. Time was on the side of Hanoi, not Saigon or Washington. Incidentally, the hippies did not have that much to do with our pull out. A significant part of the American people started wondering why our troops were dying there and lost trust in our leaders.
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Registered: 03-22-07
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Because of the effect on the American People Pres Nixon decided to end the meat grinder effects of the the viet nam war.HE DESIGNATED DR KISSINGER to seek thru negotiation an honrable peace. NOTE; EVERY day a report was submitted to Kinsinger in Paris the report was an INTSUM revealing the day to day evauluation of each Region (FRAC SHRAC TRAC And DRAC) and combinned with the COORDS report gave a picture of what was happening in country. WE DID NOT have support of other countries in the conflict. The logistic efforts by China would continue as long as it was feasable.
Your comment of the South spending time fighting each other,I would appreciate an example.
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Registered: 06-21-07
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we demolished the NVA, and the North Vietnamise via, rolling thunder, linebacker, and so on. We won on a military stand point, but since the war was "unpopular" with the hippies, we pulled out, the only reason we lost is politics, and the North Vietnamise and NVA's desire to keep fighting.
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Registered: 07-15-07
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ford 1938 we did have support of other counties. at the hieght of the vietnam war there were over 300,000 south korean troops serving in vietnam, thailand sent a large amount of troops, austarlia sent troops, and the hmong people of laos sided with the united states.
so if sending hundredes of thousands of troops to fight in a war that they didn't have to fight in isn't supporting the usa i don't know what is.
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