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WelshStar
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Registered: 01-10-08
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I have a 5 month old border collie (female), she gets very aggressive sometimes, usually towards my partner, and to me if i tell her off. she picked up sit, lie down, come here (not that she listens to that yet), paw VERY quickly...she knows what "no" and "naughty" mean but she doesnt listen and just bites or carries on mounting my partner. She wont come to me unless I have a treat in my hand, and if she gets outside with no lead on she runs and will not come back. how do i stop her biting and running away! I have tried everything, i dont smack her when she bites, i simply say "no bite" in a stern voice or "no" but she just bares her teeth and goes to bite again.
pitt-man
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sounds like she doesnt see you as the pack leader, but for the biting and running away it is kind of going against nature. They were bred to herd( which involves nipping occasionally and running around). I would try some obedience classes and keep a leash on her so when she does something wrong you correct, for the come here I believe there is a discussion on here that I saw a couple days ago and people had some advice for that
bocch
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A 5 month old puppy is young to start training seriously. However, there are some things you can do.
BITING: Do not play with your pup by using your hands (or fingers). Like flashing your fingers in front of the dogs face. That kind of play transforms into the pup biting fingers even into adulthood. Use a toy to play with your dog. You will need to let your visitors know that as well.
If the pup continues to bite fingers, shove your finger deeper into the pup's mouth to cause the pup to gag. The pup will now associate fingers in mouth with bad reaction. Shoving the finger into the dog's mouth might have to be repeated until behavior stops.
Running Away: Place a flat type collar on pup, use a 6 foot long leash. When you let pup out you will need to walk with the pup. Let the pup know how good it is when it is nearest you but say nothing if it wonders to end of 6ft leash. You are only letting it go 6ft. Talk up and happy when pup is near you.
Begin training your border collie to be a border collie: WALK the perimeter of your yard with your border collie, REPEATEDLY. DO that religiously! Let the collie MARK the border. Praise the collie for marking the correct border. Slightly yank the collie if it goes off your property.
While you are walking your dog/pup, it is OK to talk to it.
pitt-man
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5 months is not to young to train I believe the earlier you start to train and socialize the better
bocch
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Dog obedience classes here, require your dog to be at least 6 months old. Obedience can be taught earlier but the pup should not be held to high expectations.
pitt-man
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I dont think obedience classes are absolutely needed I mean as long as you know how to train the pup and everything, its a harder pup to train, or if its your first. My pit was my first dog and I didnt take her to any class, now I took some advice how to train her from the breeder and some from the internet.
erl1391
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Originally posted by bocch:
A 5 month old puppy is young to start training seriously. However, there are some things you can do.
BITING: Do not play with your pup by using your hands (or fingers). Like flashing your fingers in front of the dogs face. That kind of play transforms into the pup biting fingers even into adulthood. Use a toy to play with your dog. You will need to let your visitors know that as well.
If the pup continues to bite fingers, shove your finger deeper into the pup's mouth to cause the pup to gag. The pup will now associate fingers in mouth with bad reaction. Shoving the finger into the dog's mouth might have to be repeated until behavior stops.
Running Away: Place a flat type collar on pup, use a 6 foot long leash. When you let pup out you will need to walk with the pup. Let the pup know how good it is when it is nearest you but say nothing if it wonders to end of 6ft leash. You are only letting it go 6ft. Talk up and happy when pup is near you.
Begin training your border collie to be a border collie: WALK the perimeter of your yard with your border collie, REPEATEDLY. DO that religiously! Let the collie MARK the border. Praise the collie for marking the correct border. Slightly yank the collie if it goes off your property.
While you are walking your dog/pup, it is OK to talk to it.


First, five months is not too young to start serious training. My pointer had her CGC at 6-7 months of age and many people plan to start competing at six months. Training should start as soon as the dog gets home, not when it turns a magic age. Puppy classes (usually started at 12 weeks) are great to take, as are normal obedience classes (6 months and up typically). The younger the dog starts training, the better they will typically be.
And do NOT shove your fingers in the puppy's throat when it bites you! There are better ways to train than causing physical harm to the dog. One of which is turn your back and ignore the pup for like a minute after they bite you. Or you can spray "Bitter Apple" on your hands for a while and the pup will spit it out because you will taste bad.
And why would you want to YANK the pup?
erl1391
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Originally posted by pitt-man:
I dont think obedience classes are absolutely needed I mean as long as you know how to train the pup and everything, its a harder pup to train, or if its your first. My pit was my first dog and I didnt take her to any class, now I took some advice how to train her from the breeder and some from the internet.


Obedience classes are great even if you know how to train the dog. They offer a place for socialization for the pup, someone experienced in the field who can tell you what you may be doing wrong when you can't see it, the dog is in a new place so it's great for distraction training, etc. I highly suggest classes to anyone, no matter how experienced they are in dog training.
bocch
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And why would you want to YANK the pup?

The yanking of the leash is used if the dog goes off the property or goes where it is not supposed to go.
bocch
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Or you can spray "Bitter Apple" on your hands for a while and the pup will spit it out because you will taste bad.

Why would be spraying your fingers with bitter apple?
fishfool
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my cousin works at a kennel and people go to her to ask questions all the time, maybe there is a kennel near you that can help you out.

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