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Registered: 10-14-06
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ok I have a problem and I posted a long time ago about a similar problem and am really, really hoping this time someone has some advice. Our original 2 dogs didnt really get a long at first but I was usually able to break it up (Ive had them for a year and they are about 1 and 1 1/2 years old)Well now I have a new 3 month old german shepard puppy who loves to play but play bite a lot and at first it was kind of cute and figured 1 of the other dogs would teach her to stop but now she just getting in the mess of them 2 fighting and now I have 3 dogs that are always fighting and its just getting more and mroe uncontrolable. if I could at least prevent the playing/fighting from reaching a certain level it would be great but I can't and it always gets out of control. They are always stealing each others toys or in each other's faces and always provoking each other and I get they're trying to establish dominance but what do I do to maybe speed up the process or keep them from getting to crazy? Our last dog trainer suggested squirt bottles or a can witth coins to make them stop(from the loud noise) but none of that works. And the thing is individually if the others are in their crate they listen to anything I ask, are great on their leashes and individually, they're great, well behaved dogs that dont have problems with other dogs or people, just their "pack" members.The eat seperatly, in their crates but the crates all next to each other, dont fight over treats, just toys are randomly fight, and havent reached the point of drawing blood, but Im getting worried they're pretty close to reaching that point. Are 1/2 year old usually ends up rolled over on the ground like hes almost summissive to the 1 yr old pit/rottie but he will keep fighting back. Pllleeeaassse, any advice will help, thanks!
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More information, are these dogs getting walked every day? Dogs need to get out of the yard and explore, preferably together, or they get frustrated and take it out on each other. If we were trapped at home all day with roommates we'd get irritable too. Are they obedience trained, can they sit and stay next to each other?
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Registered: 01-08-08
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Obedience training is a must for you and your dogs. It will be very tough and very long to write about all the training that needs be done. You also have some big sized dogs. One big sized dog would be reason enough to go to obedience class so with 3, YOU NEED OBEDIENCE classes.
Look for classes at a night school or some kind of dog obedience school.
I have had 3 dogs at one time but in my case a seniority level was set by me and the dogs followed. In other words they knew their place in the pack. The dogs will not feel insulted they would actually be happy knowing their place.
Do not stick your hands in the middle of the dogs when they start crossing the line from playing to getting mad, you will lose!
Dogs will always let each other know their place in the pack, I do not think you will ever be able to control that.
You might have to start thinking about a choke collar on the 2 older dogs. Again this would be covered in Obedience classes.
Are you alone? Do you have help with the dogs?
Maybe 2-3 people with each dog going through a training session might help.
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Registered: 02-17-08
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Well, I have to say I work at a doggie daycare and I am constantly breaking up fights. When a fight breaks out at my work I grab one dog pin it down grab it's mouth and say "NO" really loud, then I put the dog in a kennel...and usually there is someone else to grab the other dog as well. If you have ever heard of a tie down I would do that. If you haven't heard of one it is a leash/line about 2-3 ft long connected to a piece of furniture or something that your dogs can't move. Since you have 3 dogs I would plan on setting at least 3 up so when one dog is on it...all of them are on one. Here is my works website...it has great advice.
http://www.wagsandwiggles.com/links.shtml
They have a link telling you what a tie down is and how to use it. I work with trainers everyday so I know what to do when this stuff happens. Also, you could try getting gentle leaders for your dogs as well. We use them to clam down dogs that are out of control. Here is their website, it will explain how to use it and what it helps with. http://www.gentleleader.com/
I hope this helps. If none of this helps...I would suggest getting rid of 1 or 2 of your dogs. Good luck!
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When you put a dog in a submissive position (or pin it down) and then yell at it "NO" you're yelling at it for being in a submissive position which is very confusing to the dog. Cesar Millan skips the yelling altogether because that is excitement which is exactly what you're trying to prevent. But we're humans and we yell so if you must, yell before you pin the dog.

Victoria Stillwell (It's Me or the Dog) bangs pan lids to get a dog's attention. It only works a few times so you need to follow it with a correction that'll sink in.
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I like GinnyK's comment about the confusing commands given to the dog.
I am not fully sold on tie-downs. From what I have read it sounds like the tie downs need to be really big pieces of furniture (if in a house) which an 80 pound dog might be able to move. Again, I am not sure on that kind of training.
I used to own 3 dogs at one time. Their weights ranged from 75 pounds to 80 pounds.I made the time to bring each outside and put them through a training session. Upon completion of session I played with each as their reward. They each had their own toys which were nylabone frisbees. They played with their own toys.
I did not have to feed them in their crates. hey each had their own plates and in their own section of the kitchen. the dogs allowed me to touch their food when feeding but they would not allow each other that priviledge.
I guess the obedience training of each dog was the key.
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I'm having some problems with dog aggression myself right now. I would suggest even seeing a professional dog trainer. The dog aggression can be caused by various things and if you don't handle it right it may turn into a behavioral problem. If the dogs are getting in a nasty fight do not jump in there and break them up, you may get hurt! Make a loud noise or squirt bottle. And every time those dogs fight, it makes matters worse! Leash the puppy to you. Do not leave any toys out for them to fight over. And every day spend half an hour to an hour feeding all three of them treats. A really good treat too, one they never get any other time. A lot of different things could be causing the fights. I do not suggest the Millan pin down at all. This will take a lot of patience, but my dogs are already acting much better together. Good luck!
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