I don't see Joel as the screaming back type. I would expect him to be more of a 'smother Reed with a Tornado Video.net T-shirt' kind of psycho after one too many of Reed's shrieks.
There's others, who like me can not stand Reed yelling!
I've pretty much had it with Reed's constant yelling as well as his immature ego problem.He needs to growup and shut up. I would have left his crew by now and/or slaped him back into the last mil..
I wonder if it's because of Reed... or more the result of the producers in the editing room who are cutting the show together, and by their editing choices eliminating any footage that would give balance and depth to Reed's on-screen character.
The kind of balance and depth that was the hallmark of Seasons 1 and 2.
Agree, dump Reed and put Joel in charge. Joel seems a bit more level headed. I would ride with Joel anytime. Maybe with my 20 years chasing experience and his we could get great footage with out all the hype and screaming and still make the show a good show.
This guy kills me..... he has a flat tire on his "dominator" and he's on the phone.... then instead of changing the tire ASAP, he looks at a tornado and points at it......
Reed is actually a good character. I like his outgoing personality and his straight-talk. I don't blame him for telling (Joel?) to find another ride if he's not committed. From the 2 episodes I've seen so far Joel seems disinterested and uncommitted, although he otherwise has a great personality. Watching these characters (or scripted personalities, however you want to look at it) on tv you either gravitate toward them or you pull back from them. Reed's team definitely draws me in and makes me feel like I'm a part of the action, although I could do without some of the cattiness and drama.
Agreed on the Reed Screamer thing...he's kinda acting like an overly sensitive, insecure teenager. His incessant asking Joel, "What's wrong...why so negative...are you gonna be positive...are you commited" crap is like he's asking, "Please like me guys."
Listen to Reed's laguage. It is mostly exaggerated like "absolutley insane...icredible...go nuts" and so on. Joel is more honest about things and calls a spade a spade. If it doesn't look good for tornadoes that day, he says it. Reed wants cheerleaders or cheering fans who follow his cheerleading. Joel wants to see tornadoes (and Reed does not want to help change tires). It would be very tiring to be around a guy like that. You'd feel like you had to masage his feeling all the time (remember last year when Reed beat the he!! out of the car door when they missed the tornado...lol). I think Joel is just tired of massaging his fragile ego.
@frankD...from everything I have read in other places about Reed, its not the producers doing this to him, its just Reed's personality. Some chasers call him Need Glimmer because of this dudes undying "look at me look at me" need for attention. He's a glory hound and adrenaline junkie. Just look at most of his chase methods...he's no different than Sean Casey only he doesn't have a film to make and he doesn't take safety seriously at all. I mean, come on, the window breaks from the wind in one of these upcoming episodes...they keep showing it on the previews. If the glass can;t take the pounding, what does that indicate about the rest of that vehicle. The tin can tahoe is the best name I've heard it called. Plus, All the science Reed has now is being added as an after thought because people are calling him out for what he is.
@ksphotoguy....absolutely. Reed's not the kinda of person that actually changes a tire...there's no drama involved in that. Why change a tire when you can point and scream about a tornado 5 miles away instead?
@ebartey...Reed is nowhere near a good character. He's nearly gotten himself and/or members of his crew killed more time than anyone else on the show. Reed is the exasperated little child who wants to have fun playing with daddy's loaded gun. His inability to take any form of disagreement is rediculous. I can't blame Joel for being uncommitted and disinterested. If I had to chase with someone like Reed I wouldn't want to go either.
@tntdie right on Reed's need for Joel to "be positive" isn't so much that he wants him to like him, but more of a shut up and agree with me kinda thing. Joel is "negative" when he's being realistic and raining on reed's drama. Reed isn't happy unless he looks good and everything goes his way and Joel isn't standing for it any more. Joel was dead on...Reed overexaggerates everything. It amazing how someone like Josh, or Sean, or anyone else on the show sees a tornado and it like..wow, look at that...its beautiful. To Reed its insane, and go nuts. You can see the difference...to real chasers like Josh...its not about getting close...its the science and the beauty..thats real passion. Reed is about insanity and going nuts. Thats an adrenaline junkie. Its not passion, its not cool. Reed Timmer isn't a serious storm chaser...he's an adrenaline addict who gets his kicks out of chasing weather phenomenon and sadly, today's media is eating it all up and making this guy famous when he's a classic case of what not to do.
ully agree Reed need to make sure that the attention is on him and everyone agrees with what he does. If he is wrong, you should never say it. I Look at the third guy in the back and he is a "yes Man" he gets yelled at an does nothing. Joel does not care about Reeds need for attention and would do better slapping him around and telling him GET ON THE TEAM and shut up. His new name is DRAMA QUEEN REED
Sadly, a TV show about actual storm chasing isn't going to work.
All one has to do is look at the masses of people who love Reed and his antics and you understand that it drives ratings. One poster on here said it perfectly...Reed is an entertainer. Storm Chasers isn't about actually chasing storms for profit (making the storm chasing community as a whole look bad) as opposed to the science of storm chasing.
People say that the stuffy scientists are just arrogant and don't like Reed's success....when what they really don't like is the fact that many states are starting to get peeved about their actions.
Sean Casey has done several stupid things from driving over that bridge to going backwards on the highway. We saw them tear up that road last week. Reed's antics are no better. The term, Storm Chase Yahoo was coined several years ago and still applies today. These yahoos, out for the adrenaline rush, use very little common sense, have been known to block roads and even cause accidents while breaking all sorts of traffic laws.
Its no wonder that many states are looking for ways to regulate storm chasers. That will only put up regulatory road blocks to getting this scientific work done and yes, if I was a stuffy scientist type, I'd be livid at people like Reed who are going to give the states the reason to do just that.
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With regard to this discussion topic, if I were staring at a tornado from a few hundred yards away, I'd be screaming too. Thanks to the magic of television, we can turn the volume down.
That's easily Joel's best line ever. I really do hope that Reed's statement that we haven't seen the last of Joel means Joel pops up with someone else.
@ttat...if a tornado were a few hundread yards away...I'd prolly scream too.....thats cause it would only be the second tornado I've seen the the first was several miles away. By the time you've seen your 100th, if you can't act calm and do what your there to do and still feel the need to scream about everything....well, thats just being rediculous.
Fair point skywrn. Reed's obviously passionate about what he does. He strikes me as a guy who probably played some competitive sports in HS and/or college. He's clearly an adrenaline junkie. So he screams. Just seems like part of the territory to me.
Hey, I'm a baseball fan. I watched about 150 of 162 of my favorite team's games (both on TV and at the ballpark). I screamed alot - hundreds of plays and runs. My wife doesn't like it much ;-) but I still get excited.
the difference between baseball and storm chasing is readily apparent.
Your supposed to cheer the players on your team....the players appreciate that....tornadoes can't hear your screaming nor do they care about it.
If a bseball team is winning by 10 runs, the game loses its excitement. Reed's screaming his head off about how aesome and insane a weak tornado thats roping out is.
There is a fine line between having passion for what you do and being out of control.
Reed Timmer is out of control and people who are like that do stupid things. We've seen Reed do many stupid things and nearly get people killed on multiple occasions. I know of other instances outside of this show where Reed displayed the same mentality. I read somewhere he needed to be rescued during Hurricane Ike while "chasing" it.
Thats all there really is to it. Reed Timmer is a bad example of a storm chaser because he is simply unable to control himself at all. This is why Joel is making these statements. Reed makes everything out to be much bigger than it is, calls realism negativity because reality isn't upbeat and insane all the time and screams about everything. Excitement is one thing....screaming for the sake of going nuts is another.
I guess I can't disagree with your points skywrnchsr. Reed risks his neck alot to get a good shot. Were I ever to chase tornadoes, I'm sure I wouldn't take the risks he takes.
There's another thing to note thought, and that is the fact that other chasers on the show often get excited and scream when they're close to a big storm. Sure Reed does it more. For me, it's not a big deal. I guess I kind of identify (and I'm a pretty laid back guy).
Could be editing, but you don't see the guys in front of the TIV as much this season. Seems like cameras are point at Sean more. Good observation though MythdusterLuvr, TIV guys don't seem to scream as much.
Okay Okay, Some good points some bad. My two cents... Reed is obviously not acting, you can tell he is indeed passionate about "getting the storm". Do I think he has made some mistakes or put his team in danger, that really doesn't matter, but I am pretty sure that they knew what Reed was like before they signed up to ride with him. What i find funny is that everyone thinks of him as an adrenaline junkie, yet on the website it says Reed was once a science olympian in the field of tree identification. "Holy cow look at that white oak!!! Whoa that is a huge dogwood tree!!!" Adrinaline junkie indeed. To add insult to injury so many people are complaining about the fact that Reed's careless acton are going to give stormchasers a bad name. Uh... storm chaser... doesn't anyone see the humor here? I have got to say that anyone out there intentionally chasing down tornados is likely an "adrenaline junkie." That is what is great about America, you can choose to dive out of an airplane not for neccesity but for fun. Guess what all, there are obviuos risks to tracking tornados be glad that there are people out there who do it so you don't have to.
oh of course, every last one has to be an adrenaline junkie....no one is actually doing any of this because its the only way to get the valuable information that will allow people to understand how and why a tornado really develops and maybe save a few lives because of the new system....not one.
