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Junior Member
Registered: 07-13-07
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Rambler, my Great Pyreneese (1 1/2) had to have his front leg amputated due to accident. We also had to bring another dog (8 yrs) to our home. Both are neutered males. Both are precious, good natured dogs. But not together. Rambler has become viscious towards the new dog and we don't know how or what to do to help the situation. One or all of us are going to be injured due to their fights. Please help!
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Registered: 03-15-05
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Sorry to hear about Ramblers condition.
But there may be 2 different items clashing on this issue.
A) Both Male dogs and the second has came into Ramblers' territory. Not a good situation in the best of circumstances without proper introductions.. and even that may not have helped in this instance.
B) The above situations with Rambler feeling vulnerable and at a disadvantage already as an amputee.. How long has Rambler been without his leg?

First how does he react with other male dogs outside of his territory, parks or on walks?
What type of dog is the second family member?
How old is Rambler?

My advice on introductions (even though this is after the fact here) have the 2 dogs first meet at a nuetral area, a park or somewhere that niether has a tendence to claim as thier territory. Introduce and slowly let them get to know each other over an hour or 2 and then if all is going well then move back into the home territory.. Leave both on leash as you take the new dog around the house, yard and thier play areas. then take them both around the same areas again on leash, to show that you are trusting of them to know that they can be oin the same area. then let one then the other off leash one at a time to roam then releash and let the other off. Before both are off leash at the same time.. Watching for tendencies that may cause issues later on..

As far as now that they are both fighting, or is it just one mostly, I would have to differ to one of the more experienced folks on here. Like applesmom or borzoimom and such.
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Registered: 07-13-07
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Thank you so much for answering. Rambler was hit by a car 10/06. We tried everything, even physical therapist to save his leg. It was amputated 7/05/07. He is a great pyreneese, the other dog is a chow/shepard mix, close to 9 yrs old. He is not the aggressor, tries to avoid conflict, but Rambler gives him no choice but to respond. There is no issue between them when we go on walks around the neighborhood. Rambler plays with all dogs, even visits and has friends over to play with him (so to speak) from the neighborhood. Even likes cats. Just not Pharaoh being at his home especially when we are outside around them. I've heard it is his nature to be a guardian and protective, but I've got to find a way for them to get along. Someone is really going to be hurt. When they fight, it is like watching wild animals on tv.
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Registered: 10-26-06
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Packorder shuffles are never a fun thing. Never owned a Pyrenees myself, but I understand they tend to be territorial by nature. The trick is, he seems to have forgotten he's protecting YOUR territory, not his.

This sounds like there is some confusion concerning the arrangement, and Rambler needs to remember who's calling the shots. There's a few tricks to reestablishing pack order.

One is to eat before he does: if needs be, mime eating out of his bowl before you give it to him. The Alpha always eats before the rest pf the pack. If possible, have the dogs eat in the same room as each other <if this would not result in a fight>. Put down their bowls at the same time signifiying in your eyes they are pack mates. This will be a big step.

Two is to do simple training sessions together. Rambler will be made to obey you <sit, stay, lie down... whatever you like> in the company of Pharaoh, and likewise... this also establishes a pack bond between them and should help to ease the competitive nature.

Three don't favor one dog over the other. Try, as much as possible, to treat them equally. If you fawn over Rambler thinking he won't be jealous it's like saying he's the favorite and he'll use that to fuel his power trip over Pharaoh. If you fawn over Pharaoh, Rambler will truly become jealous and try to improve his status by throwing his weight around all the more.

Four try and break up any potential situation before it becomes an all out fight. If Rambler has tells like starting to bare his fangs, or a low throaty growl, give him a sharp loud sound like a "Hey!" If he looks at you, meet his gaze and do not break it til he looks away! He will learn real quick who is calling the shots. Never EVER reach into a dog fight! When they scuffle, once more try to use loud noises to distract them.

This should help to level things out. Reassure Rambler that you are permitting Pharaoh on your turf, not his... that he doesn't have to protect it non-stop. It will not be easy, nor overnight, but it should get better.
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Registered: 08-29-07
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I hope you didn't just dump him in the other dog's territory! Mad They need to be introduced on neutral territory then slowly moved in together. Your dog is probably fighting with yur new dog because it's defending its teerritory. Sometimes you need to take your dog with you to the animal shelter to see how they get along. If they don't get along on neutral territory there then don't adopt him. No matter how cute. You need to think of your first dog FIRST !!!!!!!!!!!! I know that sounds harsh to your rescu but it's the truth! Maybe you can consider getting a female next time. To get your dogs to get along together do things with them together. Feed them seperately though, at least for a while. Take them on walks together (That helped my two males) and take them to your local pet store side by side! Give your first dog the first greeting then greet your second dog. Spend more time with your first for a while then spend equal. Take them to the dog Park and go swimming and play fetch! Just do things them together and amybe if you thin kit's okay take them to an obedience class, that way they're on neutral territory, they can be distracted by the commands and the other dogs and in case they're scared they might stick close to each other because they know each other. Just try it. I promise it'll work!
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Registered: 03-19-07
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Please don't dredge up old topics from almost 2 months ago
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Registered: 08-29-07
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Look i'm not "drudging it up" I'm giving him some advice! S odeal with it cause that it was what the forums are here for! Mad
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Registered: 03-19-07
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No you ARE dredging it up. it's TWO MONTHS OLD and it's already been dealt with. The advice you gave was already given the person responded and hasn't posted since then. These were their ONLY two posts here. Which again was TWO MONTHS ago. If they were still having problems they'd have been back.
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Registered: 08-29-07
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Actaully I'm not! If you were normal which i guess your not you wouldn't care! I don't bother to look at dates either, oh yeah if it's already been dealt with then wh ywere you even opening it up? Mad
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Registered: 03-19-07
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-rolls eyes- because you posted in it bringing it to the top as unread.
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Registered: 08-29-07
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Look, Let's sop fighting. If it really bothers you that much sorry. I didn't think it was a big deal, and i didn't chack the date. So I'm sorry. I just didn't know.
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Registered: 03-19-07
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No problem Hun it's just that if you bring up old subjects in which the problem has already been solved it distracts us from solving the new problems people constantly post here.
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