Well I know that we have not seen any of the Entomology Forensic Reports yet. Then when they asked specific questions about the freezer and the popsicles, I hadn't even thought about those two aspects before. I think that they are leading down a path that they want to go during the trial.
We also haven't seen the text messages between Casey and Tony on the night of June 15/16 or the text messages between Casey and Cindy during the 31 days.
I think the most incriminating evidence isn't going to come out until the very last possible moment.
the most incriminating stuff will be held from public knowledge until trial. Surely, LE already even knows to whom Dominic was talking to on his "bat phone" while he searched for the remains. THats a killer bit of info right there.
It can be reasonably concluded that he defense has in its hands a lot of very damming evidence right now, stuff that we dont get to see.
Why do we think that they played this card a few days ago, trying from all angles to get dismissals on technicalities....saying that the DA wants them to plea deal...etc....
I believe (and yes Im speculating a bit here) that the defense is shifting over from "how do we defend our client" mentality, to a more "how can we save our client's life" course. I really do.
DC- bat phone Georges- bat phone, friend from Ohio statements Lee's - bat phone Cindy's- bat phone, texts between her and KC KC's- bat phone, texts between her and TL, internet usage while out on bond Entemology reports Soil sample reports Evidence from the A's home ZG22 info Mark Furman- statements
There is a paragraph in the book released Tuesday about this. Furman said to them "You realize Caylee is dead". After a brief silence George nodded agreement and Cindy began weeping.
Whether LE has evidence that KC had a ZFG driver's license that the cop took from KC's wallet on July 16. Evidence that KC used this ID in some of her traffic tickets.
Annie Dowling's additional testimony, which I think some exists.
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OK. adding to the list.....thanks everyone for the input! Anything else?
DC- bat phone Georges- bat phone, friend from Ohio statements Lee's - bat phone Cindy's- bat phone, texts between her and KC KC's- bat phone, texts between her and TL, internet usage while out on bond Entemology reports Soil sample reports Evidence from the A's home ZG22 info, ID, traffic stops Mark Furman- statements Amscot video ADowning- additional statements (me too Anna)
I believe (and yes Im speculating a bit here) that the defense is shifting over from "how do we defend our client" mentality, to a more "how can we save our client's life" course. I really do.
Me too. They're in a really tough position because Casey is most likely still admitting to nothing, but they have all the proof she committed this crime. She is not going to give them anything that could actually spare her life, because she will never admit to anything.
Slbas, please pardon this diversion from your topic, but this post is in response to lawyerme's post that the defense is shifting from how can we defend to how can we save KC's life. I am really beginning to think this new approach will be forthcoming:
We all have been scratching our heads about why the defense has dumped onto the court, all of these outlandish, nonsense motions, one right after the other. So far, we think that it is just because they do not know the law well enough and they all eventually get batted down by Judge Strickland. What if.......
These motions have been made just to keep the SA busy responding to and thinking about nonsense motions and not about their real strategy. Perhaps they realize that the evidence against KC is so compelling that the only viable avenue to save her is to change their plea to "Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity".
Some theorize that KC was not even thinking about LE when she killed Caylee, but was only thinking about how to keep it from her parents. That seems insane doesn't it. One of the tests of legal insanity is that the person does not comprehend the gravity of what they have done. Baez could claim that this crime is an example of that. The fact that she did not cover her tracks very well and that she did not consider LE issues until the night of July 15 when Lee told her that the police was coming to the house did she begin to put together a story for LE. Before he did that, she was just trying to stall her parents with her usual BS.
Remember the first DP lawyer, Terry Lenemon, wanted to go that route and KC and Baez fired him promptly. This was in the very beginning of this case timeline. Perhaps the first DP lawyer had the right strategy all along, but it took the second one, Ms. Lyons to convince them this is the only way to save her.
Maybe they have gone full circle with Ms. Lyons and all of these wacko motions, etc. are just to keep their real strategy under wraps until they are ready to declare them.
This would change the whole trial, yes? And, if the SA has not been preparing for an insanity defense, the less time that they have before the trial, advantage the Defense.
I have a gut feeling that this explains all of the stupid motions. Let the SA think about all of the wrong things and how stupid they are. I am not saying that this will be successful, but with all of the evidence that points to KC, the insanity defense might be the only viable option. That first DP attorney saw the results of KC's psychiatric evaluation and he thought they should go with it.
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I'm not an attorney (THANK GOD), but I like to think I'm of above average intelligence. If the SA is withholding some slam-dunk evidence, why is it advantageous to their case to do so? I just don't get it!
I know we all think she’ll never accept a plea, but shouldn’t they disclose it ASAP and try to get a plea of life without parole to save the taxpayers money and end this whole ordeal?
Does the SA want the limelight as much as Bozo?
We all know she killed Caylee, but we’ll never know the actual cause of death. It's going to be simple for the duh-fense to argue some minuscule mitigating circumstance for the sentencing phase. Hell, how would you have turned out being raised by an overbearing shrew like Cindy? I just don’t think the jury will ask for the death penalty.
I know that some evidence is not released because it can prejudice a jury. They want to release it at trial so that the person is not tried in the press. They also can control how this evidence is given to the jury. The media puts their own spin on things and courts want to control how the information is presented to potential jurors.
But, the defense gets to know all of the DA's evidence ahead of time and gets the opportunity to ask the DA to not release it in discovery, but wait until trial for the above reasons.
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I also believe that the most damning evidence against KC is being withheld due to the prejudicial nature contained therein...KC will, imo, never agree to a plea of guilty by reason of insanity despite the consensus of her attys. She controls whether she testifies and what she pleads to...KC's personality does not allow for admission of wrongdoing. She has no conscience, remorse or recognition of her culpability...She is a blame-shifter much like Cindy...It was never her fault, and she fully expects to be 'rescued' by Bozo and Lyin...this is who she is...she is always rescued....what has changed....
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