BD/ most of all rituals are from the agrarian cultures that had to understand the seasons and star orbs. Something you may already know is the placing of small stones on the grave of the dead found in cultures from Australia to the pyrenes mountains. In a grotto at maz d'azil in the French Pyrenees they were found in the 5-8000bc level with writings with letters of 19 of the letters found in the english language. They appear to resemble the druid writing system of dots and dashes. The maya also used the dot and dash in their pictographs for phonic sounds.

Ae,

[quote]What are you looking for? You seem to have all of the answers already.[/quote]

I am looking for fellow seekers.
Those whose fear of learning (and social embarrassement) is so slight as to magnify their mission of finding "truth". 'Nothing stands in the way of truth..'

I have found only one answer....that which worked for me... and i an prepared to share it with anyone who is interested.

If you can't use it for yuourself... perhaps it will serve as one trial, in many, that put you in the path to receive.... God.

BD

[quote]If Jesus was here today his followers would fail to recognize him by more the his image. They cling to a fairy tale about his life made up by later people to create a religion.[/quote]

Definitely, most would be expecting some sort of God-man chimera from whose mouth would ooze pure intelligence and omnipotence, not the poor, uneducated fellow reciting various platitudes about getting along and not going to hell.

He most likely would be in shock and horror that all of these vastly more educated people with a much greater respect for people in general than existed in his day were actually praying to him as a God-person!

So you're looking for people to sell your beliefs to, just like everyone else.

On a side note, it's sad what happened to Sunshine. I wonder if we'll ever hear from her again...

...another victim of our "loving God"...

Ae,

"On a side note, it's sad what happened to Sunshine. I wonder if we'll ever hear from her again..."

...another victim of our "loving God"...[/quote]

What happened to Sunshine?

The challenges of life. One can either let themselves be defeated or rise up beyond them.

WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED TO SUNSHINE?

Blackdruid: I read that beautiful poem of yours
I must tell you that I'm passing it on to some
people who I know will love it! One of whom is
a Unitarian Minister/Psychloligist!
I'm also planning to *create a wall hanging of
it~my husband works for a printer*
This piece should be published and spread throughout the world to all!
My email is: Marleneemm@msn.com
If you like you can write me.

Denovo: If you like I'll join you on your
"Vision Quest" I'm always looking for other
people who share my love for *Ancient History"~
Marleneemm.

MM

Both of those are not mine but very old and linked to my faith.

Ma'mm,

Thank you... unsolicited memberships are very welcomed. Next years convention is in Vegas.

To give you full disclosure... I have never studied history. per say. My son took Honours History... and ended up in a course that sounded like philosophy.

What is the message of your Unitarian Psychologist? What is he into?

De/Ad

ignore request for sunshine info.

a-ok

I gave you as much info as I feel comfortable sharing. It is up to her whether she shares it on here or not.

Black Druid/Denovo:
Many years ago I told my brother in law my
thoughts on *The differance between Catholic &
Jew~ now please people don't go and blow a
gasket when you read what my feelings are*
I said that "I thought the differance between
Catholic and Jew was no finer than a human hair~
and that I chose to remember Jesus's Jewish
Linage.Mary & Joseph's parents were both of the
tribe of David~Either way the child of their's
would have *RoyalBlood*,as David was King of
Israel. My brother in law agreed with me, he
still does.....History and Psychlogy are
really *Very closely related when one thinks
about it*

Blackdruid: If you don't mind me asking what
religion are you~ I was brought up a Jew, but
as I've stated before I do have cousins,Sister
in laws,my mother in law is Protestant.
The others are Catholic.
I'm what you could say *riding the fence~half
Jewish and the part of me Catholic.*

MM

I agree with you completely.

And the line of David goes back to the Babylonian and the Egyptian royal line.


Which would have required Jesus to have married and by tradition produce at least one female child and 2 male children to continue the blood line.

I am a Celtic Druid solitary.

I am also a follower of Church of All Worlds Philosophy.

Mar,

[quote]History and Psychlogy are
really *Very closely related when one thinks
about it*[/quote]

Yes indeed.
One studies man in the present... the other through the past. By knowing of our past we can be better in out futures.

Makes sense to me.

Blackdruid/Denovo: Thank you both for helping
to "Validate my feelings considering Jesus~
it's also good to find out that there are people
who also share my same feelings out in this
big world of ours"!

Not sure how I helped but yer welcome

There is a nice group here who think I am working for the devil but *shrugs*.