Talking to a god (or God) is different from praying or imagining that one is conversing with a god. One indicates communication with a "supernatural" (and traditionally mythological) being. How can one be sure of their existence outside of your head?
My contention is that no one can talk WITH God (or gods). There are only those that claim to and those that admit it is a one sided conversation...
BD [quote]Just cause it is not your def of God Dev does not make it less real. You are showing you arrogance again.[/quote]
I don't think so BD. Every mystic i have ever encountered - which i think you would bend to accept you are into... reports much the same experience with God that i have reported.
You report a distance with your gods not an intimacy... intamacy is the defining quality reported by mystics... an intimacy with God.
You have to reach for Him..
At least that's what i, and others, have encountered.
I am not telling you what you've experienced. I am telling you my opinion based on my experience and observations. You say that you speak with your gods. I say that you "claim" to speak with gods. It is an accurate statement. For me to say that you talk with your gods, I would have to believe (1) that your gods exist and (2) that you can speak with them. Semantics really.
I can talk to God (or my dead relatives) in my head, but I know that it is nothing more than my imagination. I wish that I could convince myself otherwise, but I can't. It is a personal choice and a personal belief. I am the source of all of my thoughts, both good and bad, conscious and subconscious, requested and spontaneous...
I thought that was implied. I do not know if ANYONE can talk to their gods (or God) or not. I just personally doubt it based upon my experience of beliefs, thoughts, observations, and study.
You must have forgotten that I am an agnostic. I don't claim to have all of the answers. I just question whether ANYONE does...
I am glad that the humor of my statement wasn't lost.
I also apologize for some of the harsher words that I've used. I just think that you may have your foot stuck in one stirrup of your "high horse". LOL...
You assume that I have ruled out all other sources besides myself. I haven't. I just know better than to take a salesman at his word. I'm not the sucker born every second. The reasoning that I use is my own. I borrow my philosophy from all those that have come before me. I use the philosophy of others, not as a guide, but as an insight to human thinking and understanding.
I am open to all possibilities. I just give more weight to some based on my own observation, interpretation, and analysis. I don't think that I'm "better" than anyone. More honest, maybe.
I wish that I had the blissful ignorance of my childhood back. As Poison put it, "I wish I didn't know now, the things I didn't know then. Give me something to believe in"...
Censors stole my post. I'll give it 'til after lunch to magically appear. If not, I'll reiterate.
BTW, I only make arguments as necessary. Use of deadly force has not been authorized. LOL. If you want to see the "big guns", you've got to warrant it...
[quote]The other way you said that implied you know the other person is making it up.[/quote]
I actually think that most beliefs are honest, but that some also happen to be delusional. Once again, just my opinion. Many here believe me to be delusional...
[quote]You know what i'm glad of, AE, that i wasn't paying your salary this morning... and now your'e off for lunch.[/quote] My two major projects are on hiatus until the boards I designed come in...
[quote]You where the one the referenced a racist piece of literature. For the time it was written it was acceptable. But looking back on one can see where it is making a racist stereotype.[/quote]
Figures that is what you would see with your narrow mind...seems like that was the only piece you focused on...cheap jabs...I should have have expected it from you. There are many other authors that contributed to this.
I do not have to justify myself to you for that very ignorant statement, but for the record, to those who did not read the articles, I feel that Obama is not experienced enough to take on the problems (mess) created by the 8 year Bush presidency...he talks a nice talk, but experience and knowledge is what we need to get this country of ours back on track, he lacks both. It is not the right time. We are already hurting enough...we need someone who has experience and knows how to handle a country on the road to ruins. Some one who can just jump in and take over. No time for hand holding this term. For this presidency, we need someone who really knows, not someone who thinks.
BTW, color should not matter "Black Druid"...capability should. And I do not feel he is capable. Powell, yes, Obama, no.
You said you had a problem with his name (not sure what a name has with capability) which is a Ethnic name and not anything like Bin Ladens which you compared it to.
Strike one
You cited a pdf of document that was full of attacks on his ethnic and racial background (again what does this have to do with his capability)
Strike two
And then you cite a story and compare him to a common early 20th century sterotype.
Strike Three.
Yes Capability matters but the majority of what you have cited was stabs at his ethnic and background.
Now to be honest in the mess we are in his ethnic background is gonna be a massive benefit. He has the experience with the Muslim culture. Something none of the others can claim. In a world where Islamic faith is becoming a major issue, the next president has to be able to understand the faith.
[quote]The story is Basically about A fox who is a smooth talking Gentleman Con artist, who tries to con a naive and lazy duck out of her eggs.
Now the Fox in the story represents a smooth talking black con artist sterotype of the early 20th century. The story is not nice to whites either as the duck is a Naive lazy white girl being seduced by the Con artist.[/quote]
I think you have serious mental issues...listen to your description of the story, it is you have have the racial undertones. You have accused me of name calling when I did not and now you are taking a child's bedtime story and putting racial tones to it. It is about being weary of strangers (color has nothing to do with it) and a naive person trusting someone without questions. It is about not trusting strangers. This story can apply to many scenarios...like the one about the young girl found dead when she left with a janitor at at a concert, who told her he could get her backstage to meet the band. What are you? The only person making racial comments is you. Sounds to me like you have the problems with it and are trying to use me as your scape goat. You are really something.
"Except your declaration of voting does not matter is basically and insult to my ancestors and everyone else ancestors who did spill blood in order for you to have a vote.
I find it extremely sad that you feel this way about voting. Those who are possessed by greed for power are counting on exactly that complacency to keep in power."
Would you like a box of tissues?
"PS Ancestor Veneration is a rather big part of my faith. It is important to know about those that came before us."
Yes and to you it is, but you bring it up in almost every post as to acclaim you are better than others because of your lineage.
