Dear Mike I have found the answers for myself sort of

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So, did you know that if your furnace motor seizes up at 11:10 pm (when its -46C outside) your house would stay warm (or at least above freezing) till the rates go down at 9 am. I love my family but I will not pay $175 for the call and $175 an hour to fix it (+ parts). We waited till the repairman showed up at 9am (OK it was the repairman’s idea he thought it was to much money too, that and even he did not want to go out in the cold) it was only $85 for the call and $85 an hour plus parts. (P.S Hubby is thinking about getting training for a new job, snicker) He was really nice, we gave him coffee and he even let hubby and kitten help him fix the furnace.

CHAPTER 4

APRIL

With a few exceptions, I've been away from home since Christmas. Consequently, its been impossible to keep up with a long list of everyday things, including the mail. Today, I picked up a stack from the post office that filled my front seat. And when I got home, Fed Ex was waiting with three large boxes sent up from Pilgrim. In those boxes were hundreds of cards and letters and gifts from you guys. Apparently, I had a birthday.

I am touched, and overwhelmed.

Manners require that I thank each of you individually. Forgive me, I can not. I leave tomorrow for Atlanta, and wont return till God knows when. And even if I tried, I would likely overlook someone, and that would be doubly bad form. There are literally hundreds of goodies strewn about my living room. Handmade blankets, scrapbooks, vintage books, history books, a mardi gras mask, a custom made Monopoly game, booze, handmade sculptures, more booze, slippers, scarves, coupons for BBQ's, coupons for movies, CD's, DVD's, underwear, (only slightly used,) even more booze, and a handmade chess set. And another large box, full of smaller boxes, that I have yet to open.

There's nothing I can do but gratefully acknowledge your collective generosity, and thank you for a level of kindness and support that leaves me humbled.

That's as earnest as I get.
But really, thank you all.

Mike
Posted 04-02-08 12:31 AM

You're welcome Meg.
I'm here to help.

Mike
Posted 04-14-08 12:25 AM

Hi Angela

In the spirit of you post, I will confess to taking very little of what I read hear too seriously. It's always dangerous to take one's press to heart.

However, I am forwarding your comments to my mother, with many thanks.

Mike
Posted 04-14-08 10:40 AM

"I have heard you say on several occasions that you stay in one and a half star or crappy hotel rooms. Why? Is it because there are no good ones near the places you are filming in remote locations?"

Yes.

"Are you lying??"

No.

"If you are not, Discovery should make your life easier by renting hotels that are suitable for a man that is on the road so many days. .02"

Thanks Lisa. I will pass this on to my masters. If it works, you will have my eternal thanks.

Mike
Posted 04-18-08 12:35 AM

quote:
Mike, do you still have the control over which sponsors are accepted for DJ? Or is it merely who brings the most cash?

Hi Kristi

I have no control at all over which sponsors are accepted for DJ, and never have. I do have a say about what products appear next to my name and face, and take umbrage when I'm not consulted. Regarding the cash, I have to assume such things matter, a lot.

Mike
Posted 04-18-08 12:49 AM

Thanks guys, I do appreciate your feedback, very much. The truth is, I should probably send you all a commission, since the entire campaign was inspired by this site, and your support. (That probably won't be happening, but you never know.)

I pitched a campaign that first and foremost, focused on my need to stay connected with the fans of the show. As you all know, DJ is hosted and programmed by fans, so my need to stay connected, even on the road, is both genuine and relevant to a using a laptop.

I wanted the spots to be authentic, and like Dirty Jobs, entirely non-scripted. (Sorry Susan, there was/is no script whatsoever in either production.) HP stepped up in a way that very few big companies ever do. They built a campaign around a pre-existing point of view, (mine.) They let me include my real crew. They let me say whatever I felt like saying. And they allowed me to integrate the TX in a way that struck me as unobtrusive. I am still amazed by their desire to shoot an authentic campaign, and equally impressed by the cooperation of the people at McCann. For a giant ad agency accustomed to script driven production, they were simply a pleasure to work with. The spots were directed by a guy named Jason, who should really have his own show. He currently directs a very funny half hour on Stars called "Headcase," (largely unscripted,) and works for a lovely company called UNCLE.

Everything was shot in three days, including the catalog, and I am amused beyond words to see my good friends D&D splashed all over the place in living color. Too much fun.

Anyway, party's over. We're headed to Greenland first thing Saturday. Actually, Baffin Island, which is technically in Canada. Whatever, it's 10 below up there, and I left my long johns in Fargo. Perhaps the TX-2000 will keep me warm...

Later,
Mike
Posted 04-19-08 01:49 AM

It's entirely possible that a survival suit saved the life of one of my crew last week. I wont say more, other than the fact that it wasn't me. However, I can say this. Dutch Harbor is a very cold place. Pangirtung is colder.

Much, much colder.

Mike
Posted 04-25-08 10:42 PM

(Cold smold, try being in Winnipeg during January when it gets to be -54C with windchill oh and it is a dry cold. OK I get a tad bitter when I am cold)

CHAPTER 5

MAY

There are many rooms in the party house. The host can't be everywhere at once, but I assure you, he's still on the property.

Mike
Posted 05-01-08 12:03 AM

I'm rubbing my face right now. And my only use for cucumbers involves a salad.

Mike
Posted 05-01-08 12:06 AM

Hmmm. Good one to ponder on a Saturday morning.

Sometimes, it feels as though I'm leading. Then I look over my shoulder, and no one is there. So, if I am first, in a line of one, am I leading, or merely lost? Or am I just alone?

Or, I might look up and see people in front of me, going in the same direction. Am I then a fellow traveler, or a follower? Or maybe a stalker?

Leadership I think, is a state of mind. I find that people who know precisely where they want to go often see themselves as leaders. But aren't those people following something too? A "plan," a "dream," a "belief," a "passion?"

We have elevated the term "leadership" to the point where it's qualities have become automatically positive and noble. Such platitudes are worthy of suspicion. Mao, Hitler, Stalin, Jim Jones - they were all leaders, to the woe of those that followed. The willingness to lead and the desire to control are impossible to differentiate. Only the leader can say what drives his actions. History will sort out the rest. (As told by the winners, naturally.)

Likewise, the willingness to follow is also a choice, and does not preclude the ability to lead. In fact, I think the best leaders are those who are happy to follow, but step up when circumstances demand. The courage to lead is admirable - the ambition to lead is not. Perhaps that's why we torture those who ask for our vote? Personally, I'm less interested in where a candidate stands on every issue, than I am in understanding why they want the job. I see little difference in the courage to lead fairly, and the decision to follow wisely.

Sometimes I wonder if it takes more courage to lead or follow. (Ever ride shotgun with a bad driver?)

Mike
Posted 05-03-08 12:55 PM

Beth,

I've always maintained there's no accounting for taste. For those of you who are find yourselves attracted to a smart-aleck covered in a potpourri of grime, there is little I can do but say thanks, and be grateful that beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.

As for Mac Davis, he was the real deal. I remember his variety show - he could make up a song about anything on the spot, and make it sound good. Got to admire a guy who can make it look easy.

Mike
Posted 05-03-08 01:51 PM

Hi Jeremy

The advertising types would say Males, 18-49.

I was shooting more for anybody with a pulse.

Mike
Posted 05-03-08 02:05 PM

Dear Mom

Sorry to email you here in The Mud Room, but your crappy Toshiba keeps returning my thoughtful Mother’s Day Greeting as “undeliverable,” which makes me wonder if I should have sent you a brand new TX-2000 HP laptop instead of another bouquet of overpriced flowers. (Let me know if you’re ready for an upgrade – and I’ll have my I-T people coordinate directly with Dad.) In the meantime, since I know you read every post on these boards, I figured I’d check in with you here, and bring you up to speed on my exciting and glamorous life.

But first, congratulations on yet another publishing milestone.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/custom/altoda...ay11,0,5700888.story

Your story in today’s paper has generated a dozen emails from old high school pals, including some former girlfriends who want more details on “Pre-adolescent Mike.” Thanks in advance for your discretion.

It’s been another busy week. Started in San Diego aboard The Star of India – the oldest merchant ship still functioning, more or less. It’s docked in the harbor downtown, and in plain view of the general public, which makes shooting interesting. Dad will love the story itself, but I’m afraid you will not approve. Most of the work takes place 150 above deck, in various parts of the ships rigging. (I know that lately, you have seen me working at a variety of treacherous altitudes, and I apologize for that. I’m not trying to scare you any more than usual, or turn the show into a high wire act. That’s just the way the stories have unfolded, and because the network has insisted upon a schedule with no room for show-building, we have no choice but to air the stories we shoot in the order we shoot them.)

Anyway, you can look forward to various shots of your oldest son dangling from a bosons chair, smearing hot tar on several miles of exposed rope. Good stuff. Later, you will scream at the television as I gently slather rendered animal fat to the very top of a wooden mast. (Aside from being fun to smear, animal fat works as a kind of weatherproofing, and smells like wet dog food. In fact, after the shoot, I became very popular with several strays in the area, which confused me with a walking chew toy. Sadly, we had stopped rolling, but I can still feel their greedy tongues, lapping hungrily at my Dickies. Strange, but not entirely unpleasant.)

From the shoot, we went to an overpriced sushi joint not far from the Star, where I had every intention of buying the crew dinner and drinks. (They were fearless that day – Troy in particular, who dangled in the breeze longer than any of us.) Happily, I didn’t have to. Dirty Jobs is a big deal in San Diego, and people began to send drinks over the minute we sat down. Eventually, a young guy in the real estate business stopped over to say hi, and got so excited he wound up buying everybody’s meal. Crazy. It used to make me feel uncomfortable – people buying me stuff. But I’ve come to realize that people really feel a need to say thanks for the show. I’ve become peaceful with the fact that people feel sorry for me, and have no problem accepting their expressions of gratitude/pity. (Don’t tell Dad.)

After the free food, we drove up to Newport Beach, and crashed in fleabag hotel. You never know what you’re going to get with Best Western. Sometimes, they’re really pretty decent, and other times, they’re under perpetual construction, which was the case last Tuesday. They were also sold out, and I was lucky enough to be placed next to what sounded like an all-night Toga party. Miserable, and not the ideal way to end a 14-hour day.

After two hours of sleep, I headed out to what Barsky described as a “simple” job – a construction project at a car dealership that would involve me operating a “wall saw,” an 85-pound monster with a diamond blade that can cut through 12 inches of reinforced concrete. (Barsky doesn’t lie on purpose. However, our crucible of a schedule doesn’t allow anytime for a scout, so Dave must rely on what he’s told over the phone. For whatever reason, he still clings to the belief that there is such a thing as a “simple” job. He should know better.)

It took us all day to complete a two-hour operation, and by the time we got to LA, I was pretty well covered in slurry, which is concrete-dust and water, (which as you might imagine, hardens when it dries.) I was a mess, and completely knackered, Fortunately, the next day was reserved for meetings, and my big shot agents got me a room at The Four Seasons. The contrast was so stark, I was up half the night tossing and turning in Egyptian percale, stinking up the bed with the smell of rendered animal fat and concrete chips. Oh well. On Thursday, I met with a string of people who were full of some big ideas. One guy had mapped out my future career in films. Another had a plan to make me the next Oprah. I don’t see the resemblance, but whatever. It was fun to listen to him talk. That night, I drank a few beers with Rick and Chuck, who are still impressed and jealous that strangers buy me beer. We reminisced about high school, which now seems like yesterday and a lifetime ago. They are both doing well, and send their regards.

Friday, we went to a potato chip factory, where I spent 13 hours in a greasy kettle. The details of this day are too ridiculous to share here, but suffice it to say, I still smell like a French fry, and will likely avoid anything deep-fried for sometime. I burned myself on a pressure washer – second degree, but not too bad – and fell on my butt several times. (The grease is everywhere.) I did not feel like a movie star, or the next Oprah.

Anyway, I got back home yesterday, and should be around for a few days. Tomorrow is a promo shoot, Tuesday is Catch vo, and Wednesday, HP is having an event to celebrate the campaign (apparently it’s doing better than expected,) and I need to make an appearance. I’ll fly to DC on Thursday, and see you at the hotel on Saturday. (Rehearsal with the symphony is all day Friday, and I may be busy for part of Saturday evening.) Sunday however, is wide open, and we should find something fun to do in DC. As for Monday, I’m off to Colorado to castrate some sheep. Which reminds me, tell Dad I’ll call him tomorrow.

As for you, Happy Mother’s Day. I love you a lot, and miss you very much. I’ll call you later, and if your busy schedule finds you home, look forward to your blistering critique of last weeks tram episode.

Mike
Posted 05-11-08 05:05 PM

Maks

The idea is still percolating, and still big. Too big maybe, for the likes of me, but maybe not. I'm still trying to flesh it out. It's not a TV project, at least, not exclusively. But it is large, and worthwhile, and tempting. If I go for it, you'll know by summer. Till then, and in honor of Mother Day, I'm keeping mum.

Mike
Posted 05-11-08 07:54 PM

"Will you treat us all to a final goodbye post, or will you just fade away into the sunset?

Hi Dani

When I leave, you'll know it. Nothing cryptic - promise.

"Do you think this message board "experiment" has been a success?"

Absolutely. I'd change very little, all things considered.

"What have you learned and what will you take with you from this message board experience once you move on to other things?"

Quite a bit, but nothing to rival good company in remote places. I'm currently outside Grand Junction, CO. Nice to check in here, so what's new and all that.

It's still fun Dani. Really.

Mike

When it
Posted 05-20-08 02:00 AM

"I was voted class flirt in HS. I still flirt proudly. I agree it is an art, and like good manners and executed properly the purpose is to make the other person feel good and comfortable. Older people are just older young people, they still want to be desired. I say good for the gentleman with the dog biscuits and the pair playing footsies in the pool."

I'm with you, Janine. Flirting, when done well, can actually diffuse sexual tension. Assuming of course, the goal is not to hook up.

By acknowledging the attraction, without acting on it, it's possible to get passed it. (Of course, if you're fooling yourself, flirting will have the opposite effect.) Denying the attraction, can often be just as calamitous as recognizing it.

All actions lead to some sort of consequence, and motive always matters. In the end, only the flirt can say what's in his/her heart. But regardless, the results will speak for themselves.

Mike
Posted 05-23-08 01:16 AM

"By the way, do you compose your lengthy posts in Word or do you type on the spur of the moment as the ideas and thoughts are flowing? Your statements are always so organized and concise in explaining your views."

Hi Karen,

Thanks for the kind words. I bring the same level of care and planning to my postings as I do with my hosting. That is to say, very little. I type as I go, and proof-read once.

Jeanine,

Thanks for starting this thread, and pointing out the article. You wrote,

“So, I appreciate the efforts to be real, but I know with all the mitigating factors of producing commercial television, it's rather a mirage. But in the immortal words of Lyle Lovett, "What would you be if you didn't try?"

Here’s the fascinating thing about authenticity – it doesn’t have to be “real.” It doesn’t have to be “accurate.” It doesn’t have to be “true.” It just has to seem genuine and entertaining.

Consider The Daily Show. As a news outlet, it aspires to no level of actual credibility. In fact, Jon sometimes refers to it as the “fake news.” It is precisely because of this however, that he and the show enjoy an extraordinary level of viewer loyalty. In fact, more people get their current events from Jon Stewart than from Brian Jennings. Why? Because Jon does not position himself as an “authority.” Like me, he sets the expectations comfortably low. Consequently, he is held to a lesser standard than Shepherd Smith or Anderson Cooper, and is therefore seen as far more authentic than his “real news” counterparts. Today, there is no difference between “fake real” and “real,” as long as the viewer/consumer feels that he is in on the joke.

Loretta wrote,

“Ordering coffee from a dump truck was classic. Dirty Jobs just has the whole deal. I can't imagine another show trying to imitate DJ, succeeding.”

Thanks. Little moments add up. That scene was originally cut, because it was not seen as “important to the story.” True, but does anyone outside of production really give a damn about “story?” For the record, I do not. Content is either entertaining or not. Then, it is either authentic or not. In this case, I argued that the “story” was secondary to the authenticity of the day, and I argued convincingly. I love that moment, and wanted it cut in, because it makes the people relatable. And that is really, really important to the show’s mission.

Hi Cherry

“I didn't understand that he had a point of view that was being expressed because it seemed like he didn't know what he would be doing next in any kind of detailed way.”

Point of view and perspective can’t really exist without context, and that’s why format matters. My POV is born from the fact that I don’t know what’s happening around me. In other words, I can’t be the fish-out-of-water unless I’m on dry land.

“For a while I feel taken there as if I was there.”

Taking you there is the whole point. And that’s why the “traditional host” is an endangered species in the new world of immersed authenticity. Viewers don’t need experts. They need surrogates.

Dust wrote,

“Did Mr. James Poniewozic go to far when he inferred that the new type of reality shows are over dramatically narrated?”

No. But actually, what he wrote was “…over-dramatic narratives and editing.” In other words, manufacturing additional drama through heightened production value. If production elements in general are counter-intuitive to authenticity, as I believe them to be, then I would have to agree that there is a risk in heightening the drama in a show that already has more than enough to go around. Personally, I believe that unnecessary production values stand between the viewer and a genuine connection to the people on the screen. Consider my narration of Catch. I love the work, but that’s not the way I really talk, and people certainly know that. (No one really talks like that.) It’s dramatic, sure, but it’s not very authentic. Should I change my delivery? If Catch were my show, I might ask for a more genuine read. But what do I know? Catch is the number 1 show on the network, and if it ain’t broke…

Beyond Catch though, I would say that Hollywood should be careful. Beware of heavy music, urgent narration, fast cuts, and special effects. Such things might work in “reality” programming, but they compromise the fantasy of authenticity.

Kristen! Just talking about you the other day. Compared you (favorably) with a very cool woman I met on Baffin Island who feels about sharks the way you feel about snakes. You’ll see her on Shark Week. Anyway, you wrote.

“So Mike, obviously you have dealt with a good number of producers and networks over your career.”

Amen, sister. Amen.

“What I am curious about is why do they continue to waste money on this fake authenticity, when time and time again the "copycat" shows fail? Do they seriously keep thinking that one of these days it will work?”

Fake authenticity is different than a poor imitation. In the end, the viewer doesn’t really reward genuine authenticity – they reward the fantasy of authenticity, or more specifically, the quality of the imitation. Remember, there are no new ideas in television, and Dirty Jobs is not exactly original. (I ripped off George Plimpton. I just waited till he was dead.) Really Big Things did not fail because it wasn’t original. It failed for other reasons.

“There has to be some element that continues to push production companies to try and mass produce success (obviously $$)....but at what point are they actually losing money by continually going down the same path to another failed show??”

It’s not just production companies imitating themselves. Networks order these shows first, and here’s the reason. If you’re a development executive considering a concept never before tried on your channel, you have an added risk. If the show fails, you’re the lunatic that green-lit an unproven concept. If a copycat fails, you can shrug and say, “Hey, it worked before. How was I to know it work this time?”

The thing is, this model is constantly rewarded. Spin-offs, sequels, and knock-offs define every new season. Enough copycat shows succeed to support the habit. And those that fail don’t have consequences negative enough to dissuade the practice.

Give my regards to the snakes.

Mike
Posted 05-26-08 09:16 PM

(Hey Mike, speaking about word…. did I ever mention sometimes when I cut and paste your posts I get little red and green lines all over the place and the computer always capitalizes your name. I still can’t figure out how to turnoff the auto spell and grammar check. But you should see what it does to my work)

Hi Gort

With the exception of one that got knocked out, my teeth are no different than they were 20 years ago. I've never worn braces, or had any corrective/cosmetic work done. Nor do I whiten them. I don't know what you're looking at from QVC, but look closer. There is no difference between then and now. At least, in the tooth department.

Also, I'm not on vacation. Out of curiosity, where did you get such an idea?

Mike
Posted 05-30-08 03:46 AM

Hi Pat

The "lists" you speak of exist mainly because those who keep them have no real expectation of ever exercising the option. At least, that's what I've always assumed. Turns out, that is not the case.

Far more women that I ever imagined have compiled this "list," and a surprising number have no hesitation in sharing with me the fact that I am on theirs. What's really surprising though, are the subsequent moments of awkward silence, as they wait expectantly for me to respond to this unsolicited revelation. Oftentimes, my polite "well, thank you," is met with an arched eyebrow and a glance that seems to suggest that it might be rude to ignore this honor, and not go about the business of availing myself to the opportunity at hand.

The most interesting exchanges though, originate from men. Occasionally, a guy will approach me in a somewhat embarrassed posture, and tell me that his wife or girlfriend is infatuated with Dirty Jobs, and has chosen me as her designated "freebie." Most recently, this occurred in DC, during the intermission of an event at The Kennedy Center. The woman in question waved shyly from her seat, some twenty feet away, as the husband quietly explained the conditions whereby he would be "cool" with our "hooking up." (My dressing room was an immediate option.) She was quite lovely, and as I began to realize that he was completely serious, I found myself trying to figure out a way to politely scorn the advances of a married woman as proffered through her husband. (If there is a playbook for such scenarios, I have not read it.) Anyway, I wound up asking the guy what was in it for him, and he explained that a "deal was a deal," and if he ever ran into Jessica Alba, all would be made equal...

Strange days.

Mike
Posted 05-31-08 05:59 PM

CHAPTER 6

JUNE

"Mike, has constantly talking about yourself made you more self-aware?"

Well Z, I do find that I get sick of myself faster than I used to.

"Have you discovered aspects about your personality and behavior that you perhaps wouldn't have without the constant bombardment of questions?"

No.

"Do you engage in self-reflection?"
I do.

"Does it ever become difficult to be asked so many questions about one's self?"
Not really. If I had to answer them all though, that might be another matter.

"I've often wondered if Mike talks with his friends the way he does with us. Does he have in depth conversations with them, or do they only discuss trivial things such as the weather or sports scores?"

We discuss any and all things.

"Are his (male) friends as worldly and well versed as he, or are they perhaps a little intimidated by his knowledge?"

I am by far the least interesting of the bunch, and the least accomplished. The fact that I am better known is hysterical to us all.

"I'm also curious as to whether they are ever envious of all the attention he gets? What is it like when they are out together in public, and people keep coming up to Mike, and ignoring his friends? Do they feel it's always "Mike, Mike, Mike?"

They get a kick out of it, and I get a predictable dose of ribbing. I have two close friends though who have never even seen the show. One doesn't own a TV at all. For the most part, we avoid popular places, or go to dives where no one would notice the likes of me.

Mike
Posted 06-02-08 01:01 AM

Some responses to Screwy Squirrel...

“I was defending a fictional character and a dead author who could not speak for themselves….You've got to be kidding me! Since when does a fictional character need to be defended?"

You are a very literal Squirrel, aren't you? Of course I was kidding. Fictional characters do not "need" defending, anymore than they "need" attacking. Doing so was an exercise, and the point of my exchange with Moose.

"I'm curious Mike, did poor little ole' Travis come to you in a dream and ask that you defend him against all those that dare to say mean things about him?"

No. But dozens of people here have asked repeatedly what I have read over the years, and why. I answered, and that answer compelled Moose to respond in the way she did. I followed suit. I think it's called a conversation.

"And if it was a dream, was it just a dream that happens during a normal sleep cycle, or was it during one of those dreams you have when you pass out after drinking too much alcohol?"
Not much of a difference these days.

I'm not being rude. Just direct. You know, like you.
Indeed. We seem identical, you and I.

"Anyhoo, next time you "see" Travis McGee, ask him to say "Hi" to Snoopy and give Woodstock a big kiss from me."

Woodstock refused your kiss. Sorry. You might have better luck with Chip and Dale.

p.s. Do you see dead people too?
Occasionally.

p.s.s. You as Rockford? ~ Only in your dreams dude, only in your dreams."

You seem a bit preoccupied with dreams, Screwy Squirrel. Mine in particular. Interesting.

"I don’t understand what your point is. I am not defending anything behind the tail of screwy squirrel. It is just a screen name – nothing more. And just because I don’t use my name (real or made up) is not unusual, after all it is the Internet."

I think what Jen was suggesting is that you and I are not on equal footing. I'm a public figure, stopping by a public forum, to respond to your comments - publicly. I have made myself available, warts and all. You on the other hand, have identified yourself as a small, woodland creature. Fair enough. It is as you say, the Internet, and you may take comfort in your anonymity. I can't. My comments here have actual consequences in my real life. With every response, I run the risk of offending someone, and driving away viewers who feel shortchanged by this or that. (The Network just loves when that happens.) You and Moose however, are an anonymous presence. You can say whatever you wish, with no fear of consequence or accountability to anyone, anywhere. That gives you every advantage Screwy Squirrel. On the Internet, you are my superior. And you may continue to take advantage as you see fit.

"Why should everyone be damn lucky? Because he posts to people on a message board? Oh please! It's not like he is the first so-called celebrity to post on a fan site."

Out of curiosity, just how many other "celebrities" do you attempt to connect with?

"Lament over? Get real. I am making fun of it. I thought it was stupid of him to "speak for" a fictional character and still do. Why do you feel the need to defend him?"

Now who is kidding who? No one here is doing anything that they don't want to do, right? I assume Jen defends me because she enjoys defending. Defending probably makes her feel good. I assume you attack me because you enjoy it. Attacking probably makes you feel good. Our choices vary, our needs do not, in my opinion.

"There are some crazy fun people on this board, and then there are some who take this all a little too seriously."

On that, we agree completely.

Mike
Posted 06-04-08 10:46 AM

Yes.

Mike
Posted 06-04-08 10:57 AM

I'd really like to see all versions of the show posted here. I think it would be...interesting. And then, I'd really like to read your comments.

The thing about Dirty Jobs that most people in TV simply don't get, is that it's not about dirt and it's not about jobs. Sure, the title might suggest otherwise, but if you'll recall, Dirty Jobs was originally called Somebody's Gotta Do It. That was a show about people, and work, and humor, and for what it's worth, a particular point of view from the person mentioned in the title. In my head, I still work on the show as if it's still called Somebody's Gotta Do It.

To the producers in Europe and elsewhere, who have paid for the right to produce a local version of Dirty Jobs, I would offer this unsolicited advice.

- Be mindful of the fact that DJ would probably not have worked in this country 30 or 40 years ago. It's success here has much to do with the fact that our particular society has redefined the definition of what constitutes a "good job." There now exists a natural curiosity to reconnect with a certain work ethic that many here feel has fallen out of favor. Is that the case in Poland and Russia? I don't know. But if the bulk of your audience still understands or believes that dirty jobs are a daily reality, you won't have the same advantage that I did. That means sitting backwards on a pig might not play the same way.

- Hire a talent with a genuine point of view, and let him/her own it. Don't hire a well known personality. Don't hire an actor. Don't hire a host. If you try and script this show, or mimic this one too closely, it will fail, in my opinion.

- Dirty Jobs can and should be funny. But it's not a comedy. If there's a joke, your host should be the brunt of it.

Good Luck

Regarding my contract, it would be inappropriate to discuss specifics. However, I would like to be clear that I have nothing whatsoever to do with any production of Dirty Jobs other than the one with my name on it. I am not privy to any decision to sell the international format rights to Dirty Jobs. Nor do I participate in any way with those programs. Dirty Jobs may have been my idea, but it is not my property.

Mike
Posted 06-08-08 03:21 PM

I do what I can, when I can, for organizations that strike me as worthwhile. A couple of weeks ago, I was asked by the LAPD to present The Medal of Valor to 21 officers who risked their lives doing their jobs. There was no time, but I did it anyway, and I'm glad I did. It's a big deal, and one of the few opportunities to use the word "hero" in a context that doesn't make me cringe. Over a thousand people showed up to pay their respects. Also fun to eat chicken with the Chief of Police and the Mayor. Anyway, I was flattered to be asked, and gratified to see how passionately law enforcement has taken to this show. All in all, a very good afternoon.

Mike
Posted 06-08-08 06:58 PM

Doug

Craig CO was memorable.
And the sheep, were unforgettable.

Still recuperating,
Mike
Posted 06-12-08 03:14 AM

"Mr Rowe"
Please, call me Mike.

"How much longer are you contracted to do Dirty Jobs?"
My current deal goes into 2009.

"How long do you plan to stay with the show?
It depends on a lot of things, including my right shoulder and left knee.

"Do you have any plan's for a new show?"
Lot's of possibilities. Nothing definitive.

"Where do you see your career in two year's?"
June, 2010.

"Sorry for intruding just would like to know how much longer we will be enjoying you and your humor."

You're kind to ask, and I wish I could be be forthcoming. Truth is, I'm just not sure, and can't seem to find the time to think about it. Decisions need to made though, and I hope to sound a lot smarter later this summer.

Thanks,
Mike
Posted 06-17-08 07:26 PM

"As much as I'm on board with the brown-before-green idea, the tone of this show with its smirky potshots at the "green movement" bothered me. A lot."

Hi Jeanine

Glad to hear you're "down with brown." It's a concept I've been kicking around for a while, and decided to run with after walking into my local hardware store and seeing a plastic rake promoted as "environmentally friendly" because it would be "The Last Rake I'd Ever Buy!" And then further down the same aisle, finding a traditional wooden and steel rake with the same "environmentally friendly" tag, this time, boasting it's unique composition of "Completely Renewable Resources!"

I'm tired of the transparent opportunism that has crept into the marketplace, affecting every purchase, influencing every decision. I'm tired of merchants relying upon our collective fear and guilt to consummate a transaction.

Regarding my smirkiness, you may be right. I hope not, but I must confess to a certain bias. Living in San Francisco, and working in Hollywood, I have a lot of good friends and acquaintances that line up squarely behind all things green - never bothering to question anything they read that supports their view, but always eager to judge and condemn those who don't fall in line.

It makes me grumpy.

"It intruded on what was otherwise a very fine message."

I hope you're wrong. But if you're not, try and look past my tone. And whatever you do, don't read the new issue of Mens Health. If you think I was snarky on the show, hang on to your hat. It's out tomorrow.

"But that's just one viewer's opinion."
And I appreciate it. A lot.

Mike
Posted 06-19-08 03:37 AM

"In fact, so far I haven't found anything that I don't like about you. Am I not looking hard enough?"

Hi Kelby,

Kind of depends on what you want to find.

If you want to maintain the feelings just described, I wouldn't look much harder. If however, you can handle the ultimate disappointment that comes from a more objective analysis, stick around and keep looking. Eventually, you'll see that I'm not all that.

In either case, welcome to the Mudroom.

Mike
Posted 06-23-08 12:18 PM

"So then how do you deal with it? Do you just make your sarcastic comment and walk away like I did, or do you have another strategy?"

Hi Kristen

I have several techniques, if the good sense to just walk away eludes me. Sometimes, I'll burst into fake tears, loudly. I mean full-on sobbing, fall-on-the-ground roll-around-weeping. Make a scene. Get people looking. Then point to the offending party and wail, "Why, why...WHY!!" Always fun, and very effective.

Yawning is also good. So is laughing. Blatant sarcasm, though pithy, is not ultimately satisfying. People with bad manners are used to sarcasm and being walked away from. If you really want to mess with them, just agree with them. Loudly and enthusiastically. Get right in their face, smile big, and say, "Honestly, I think you're right on the money. Please, tell me more." Do it sincerely though, or it will be seen as sarcastic.

"It's one of those things, where you can know in your mind, that you should brush it off and let it go, but then again....wouldn't it just be so sweet to get rippin p.o'd and shock the living he11 out of them?"

Sweet, but too risky. The public is always watching, and thanks to cell phones and computers, everyone is their own network. People would just love to capture the snake lady unloading on some dolt, and post your rant on youtube. Bye bye grant...

"I sometimes find it difficult to be "nice" all the time."

You don' t have to be nice. You have to be Kristen. Trust me, that's nice enough.

"I get extremely tired of having to down some of these comments with the PR grin and let them roll off my back."

Lose the grin. Listen. Nod. Ask the cretin to politely to write out their comments and email them to you, so you can give their unsolicited opinion the attention it deserves. Or, start taking notes as they speak. Tell them to "slow down, your opinion is important, and I want to get every word." Again, be sincere. They will walk away, baffled.

"I occasionally long for the days when I could just be a random person who could walk past that family without any conversation besides perhaps a friendly smile. I'd like to eat dinner in a restaurant and not be forced to answer questions about snakes (or that Mike Rowe guy!) I just want to be "allowed" to be."

Forget it. You are doomed to talk about me for the rest of your life. Tell them whatever you want. I'll confirm, regardless.

Sound familiar?

Actually, people ask me about you quite often.
Naturally, I'm discreet.

Mike
Posted 06-24-08 01:40 AM

Chris

One of my favorite threads of all time. And just so you know, more than a few reporters have spent real time perusing it.

Thanks again,
Mike
Posted 06-28-08 01:46 AM

(WHAT can I say I had to post this, heck this is my post)

Chris

One of my favorite threads of all time. And just so you know, more than a few reporters have spent real time perusing it.

Thanks again,
Mike
Posted 06-28-08 01:46 AM

(Darn it looked so good I just had to post it again)

"'ve been away for a week, and I've just spent about an hour catching up on a little bit of the discussions I missed. I'm so disappointed that I wasn't able to participate in real time."

Glad your back. The best thing about these chat's is that they exist in a record. Going back and reading through can be fun.

"At the risk of sounding like an intolerable brown-noser, I feel compelled to tell you that yours is by far the sanest voice I've heard in a public forum discussing global warming and environmentalism."

Brown is a fine color, and your nose looks great.

"Thank you so much for giving a concise and non-emotional overview of the research in your posts this week and for stimulating so many thoughtful debates."

You're welcome.

"Even though it isn't the focus of your show, its become a natural vehicle for this message. I'm glad to hear that you're planning to make the DJ content a little deeper and more thoughtful this season and address some of the subjects we talk about here."

Make no mistake, the show will still live up to it's name whenever possible. I'm off to a maggot farm Monday, and leeches after that. But, when I can, I hope to stay mindful of the bigger themes under the grime.

"But ... I am nervous about the open letter to the candidates that you're cooking up. I'm terribly afraid that one or both of them will offer you a job."

Don't worry. My references are a disaster. And the background check? Forget about it...
Posted 06-28-08 11:24 AM

Mike Rowe would never say, "It burns when I pee."
Even if it did.
Which it doesn't.

Mike Rowe
Posted 06-29-08 03:43 AM

I was going to post this next post but I knew it would make this posted you know disappear for a while so here is the link instead
LINKY

Harold,

Doug does indeed set the standard. I'll make sure to tell him you noticed.

Funny, he's one of the best cameramen on the planet.
And known more widely for his willingness to vomit on international television.

Renske, My response to you was triggered.
Don't know why. It'll be up later.

Mike
Posted 06-29-08 11:49 PM

You know when I started this just over 3 hours ago I thought that this was such a good idea, now I am having 2nd and 3rd thoughts about this. Oh well I am know half way thru it might as well finish it

Christina

Registered: 12-17-07

Ignored post by bralco posted

Senior Member

Posted

Remember I do call this
IT WAS THE BEST OF MIKE IT WAS THE WORST OF MIKE 2008
(but still was our Mike)

(Warning proceed at your own RISK)

CHAPTER 7

JULY

"To me sometimes you come across flippant."

Hi Deb,
Sometimes, I want to come across as flippant. I would hope that is obvious to anyone who watches the show or reads these boards.

"Your responses to Lisa, to me, appeared that way."
Thank you. It was my intent to be so.

"In a thread about the Men’s Health article, you wrote a comment, “Men’s Health (magazine)is for people who want flat abs and the sexually retarded.”
I was responding to the serious tone in the preceding questions, and pointing out that the magazine and it's content should not be held to the same standard of Nature or Scientific American. I was pointing out context.

"I’m wondering why you “bite the hand that feeds you”.
Mens Health does not feed me. And even if they did, a little nibble never hurt. Besides, the comment wasn't even directed at them.

"I have no idea if you were paid or not by MH."
I was not.

"Perhaps the better question is, “Why bite the hand that gives you an opportunity to speak your own opinion?”
With all due respect, I would suggest that your prior question was far superior. In fact, I can't think of a worse question to even consider, much less actually pose. Seriously, what are you asking me to do here? How exactly does the reader benefit if I temper my remarks to please the publisher? For that matter, how do YOU benefit Deb, if I temper my remarks here, in an effort to always please Discovery? Do you want an honest conversation, or do you want a "yes" man?

"They gave you an open forum, which you wrote yourself. I’m sure there are many writers’ out there who would give their eye teeth for the copy space you were provided."
I'm grateful for the opportunity to reach the readers of Men's Health. They are grateful for my participation. Everyone is quite content, and I look forward to working with them again.

"Maybe it was your choice of words in your response that bothered me."
Some people are easy to offend. That doesn't mean I wish to upset them. However, there are few things less interesting than watching a public figure trying to please everyone all of the time. People can smell it. Better to bother a few than bore the whole bunch.

"My darling nephew is what some might call ‘retarded’.
No offense meant to you or your nephew. But did you really think I was referring to him?

"I’m just surprised that you would say a flippant remark about a publication that provided you with an opportunity to voice your personal opinion/thoughts."
Well Deb, it surprises me that you think my first concern would be to kiss the bottom of anyone who let me voice an opinion. Perhaps next time, you won't be so easily taken aback.

"It just seems harsh to me."
OK, OK, I get it. But why are you more concerned with an offhand comment about a magazine you don't even read, than the actual editors of the publication in question? If they are not bothered, (and they aren't,) why are you? (I ask this, with the deepest respect for your decision to be bothered.)

Were you upset you weren’t on the front cover?
No. Were you?

"Were you promised things that MH didn’t deliver?"
Not at all. In fact, my abs are now a slab of chiseled marble, just like the exercises promised. And my sexual stamina is now a threat to everyone in the room, especially me.

"Why the negative backlash to a magazine that afforded you the luxury of printing your own words?"
Good grief. You've asked the same question in nearly a dozen different ways. Do you own stock in Men's Health? If so, take heart. Your concerns have sold magazines. As have my comments. Mission accomplished.

Thanks,
Mike
Posted 07-09-08 11:32 PM

"Mike's not going to read through 8 pages of thread."

Ya just never know, do you?
Amazing thread, great topic. The truth is, Lisa's questions are best answered in a book, or perhaps, another venue, both of which I plan to undertake, in the unlikely event I find myself with several consecustive weeks off. Till then, a few brief comments to the original questions.

"I am curious as to why you are considered the hero of the working man?"

Obviously, that can only be answered by those who consider me as such. I certainly do not, and never have. However, Hard Work is in desperate need of a PR campaign. Historically, people with dirty jobs have been portrayed in predictible, unflattering ways. I try not to do that, without kissing up. Consequently, I am seen as different. My current notority speaks more to the problem at hand, than my own sparkling personality.

"As an entertainer and I think a member of the Screen Actors Guild, you are paid to bring education, laughter and a new show to television each week."

My status as an "entertainer" generates no income, in and of itself. And members of SAG are not paid. In fact, I pay for the membership, which is mandatory.

"But you are not really like me."
You have me at a disadvantage, as I have no idea what you are really like. And might I suggest, you might not really know me either.

"You are kind and seem sincere in what you are doing, but you still do not have to go to any one of those dirty jobs day after day.(An illusion of Hollywood, a very good one)"
I work every day Lisa. Every single day. And I like it. That is not an illusion.

"In the beginning I think you may have been earnest, but now, you are everywhere and celebrity is your life."
Forgive me, but you have made three mischaracterizations in one short sentence. I was not earnest in the begining. I am not everywhere. Celebrity is not my life.

"You deserve what has come from your idea and still are working hard to bring more attention to the show. I realize that it is hard teamwork putting a show together from what you have explained to us, I am sure it is. But you get to cross that one off your list and move on. (I am brown with envy) I have been doing that most of my life and let me tell you, it is not looked upon as a good resume-"
There's more to life than a good resume. And crossing the days off as I go is something we all can do, if you're inclined to do so, regardless of what you do for a living.

"Mike, you've said that you never wanted to do that kind of work or perhaps that you did not have the "gene". Why are you doing it now."

Because I'm interested. As I've always said, Dirty Jobs is a simple show with big themes presented around a very personal point of view. Now, after 200 jobs, I'm thinking it might be time to drill down a little more on what those themes are, and how they affect the shows popularity. I have no interest in becoming a "spokesman" for a group of people perfectly equipped to speak for themselves. However, I find myself with a unique claim, and a unique perspective. Moving forward, I think it's worthwhile to talk about the lessons I've learned over the last few years. Not from a preachy standpoint, but from a personal perspective. The fact is, I've been wrong about a great many things I assumed to be true about the nature of work. I've personally seen a great many platitudes destroyed right in front of me. And I've seen the very real consequences of what can happen when a society demonizes dirt, and makes hard work the enemy.

"Please do not take this as a hit and get mad at me. I am just questioning why I like Dirty Jobs and look forward to it each week. Is it because I like the show? Is it because I like you or how you bring attention to all of the crappy jobs that one has to do each day?"
Good questions. I await your answers.

"All of it I guess, you are pretty neat."
Thanks. All in all, I guess I'm pretty grateful.

"I watched the show with my Nephew who is 11 years old and his Father came in the room. He said "Do good in school or you will have that job one day."

And that Lisa, is eactly how we make work the enemy. We seperate blue from white collar, putting them at opposite ends of the spectrum. In truth, they are two sides of the same coin. One can not exist without the other. Seperating them in this way has lead to real problems, and today, we are all paying the price for that kind of thinking, in a dozen diffrent ways.

"The attention you have brought to the working people is doing something good. But it is still an illusion."

You're on the verge of depressing me. Why is it an illusion? The jobs are real. The people are real. Don't despair. There is still much to be happy for.

"Do you think you can change the minds of America about going to a dirty job each day or are they just laughing at us?"
In my experience, the people who I have met on this show are the ones laughing. They are the ones who appear to be in on the joke. Not your nephews father. As for changing the way people think, I don't know. But I believe I might be able to shift the conversation a bit. After that, who knows?

"I am proud of all the things I do as a creative person and a hard working person. Thank you Mike."
You should be. And you're welcome.

Mike
Posted 07-07-08 10:46 AM

(You know Mike I still never got an answer to my question at the bottom of page 19 of this thread, Sorry I just had to see if anyone was still reading this. yes I am a tad overtired and my brain is starting to get a bit fuzzy)

"I read so many messages to Mike where we send a message that is not received. We ask questions and wait for answers. Sometimes it more of a wanting to be acknowledged as a individual."

Hi Cherry,

I've read your posts, and answered them all. (I just don't have the time to write all of the answers down.) I wish I did. I wish I had the chance and the energy to acknowledge all of you as individuals. I don't. Once upon a time, it was different, but that ship has sailed. This is still a fun place to come and chat, but a dangerous place to come for acknowledgment.

"Ah, the Good Old days when you’d post a question and responses popped up almost immediately. That was mid ’05 and DJ wasn’t a Discovery staple yet. Also, at that point in the board’s infancy, we were writing page 4, now its page 544."

And what a long strange trip, eh Spock? Seeing your name here always makes me chuckle. And knowing that you have stuck it out for three years is nothing short of flattering. Gracias.

"I picture him in an airport waiting area, hat pulled down low, sunglasses on, praying no one will recognize him, hungry, tired beyond words, trying to ignore noisy kids running around, studying his computer screen with a puzzled look on his face while he tries to figure out what we're talking about.
Kay,
Realist"

Uncanny. Had you said Hartsfield International, Terminal D, you would have been utterly clairvoyant.

By the way,
An optimist see the glass half full.
A pessimist sees the glass half empty.
A realist, sees a glass twice twice the necessary size...

Keep it real.

Mike
Posted 07-10-08 11:07 AM

Hello Mrs. Jones,

Not much on entertaining, to be honest. Not opposed to it, just don't have a lifestyle currently suited to planning, organizing, etc. Don't have the right space either.

But once upon a time, things were different.
Very different.

For several years in the early 90's, I lived alone in a sprawling, 19th century mansion in Chester PA. At the time, the Mansion was known as Georgia Farm, and was without question the most amazing home I've ever lived in. And yes, I've lived in a few. Technically, I was "hired" as a Caretaker by a woman who believed the property was haunted. Practically, I functioned as a Freeloader, performing minimal services for free room and board. It was the mother of all sweetheart deals. Georgia Farm sat on 330 acres of pristine property, and looked like a southern plantation. In fact, it was. Why it was built in Pennsylvania is another story, as are the exact circumstances by which I came to be the sole occupant for nearly two years. We'll deal with all that another time, along with the intruders, the ghosts, the guns, the art, the fire, the crazy player piano, and the sordid details of my abrupt eviction. Here's an aerial photo of Georgia Farm, taken 7 years ago. Makes me nostalgic.

http://www.stroudcenter.org/newsletters/2001fall/index.htm

Georgia Farm and the surrounding buildings were an entertainers dream, even if I was an entertainers nightmare. At the time, I worked the midnight shift at QVC, and kept hours best described as unconventional. I didn't have any actual friends in the area, but I was determined to change that quickly, and thanks to Georgia Farm, I had no trouble doing so. QVC employed several thousand, and there was a university nearby. I decided early on to make in impression.

Several weeks into my sentence at The Q, I had some people over. Nothing extravagant, just everyone in the zip code. I asked a girl I met at the college to spread a rumor through her sorority that a wealthy twenty-something had purchased a nearby country estate, and was having an open house all weekend. Word spread. I invited everyone at work. I invited the crew at the local Denny's where I at most of my meals at 3 am. I invited everyone at the Firehouse, and everyone at The Moose Lodge. I invited the town, and they all showed up.

I didn't do much, but really, I didn't have to. The place was impressive on it's own. There were Tiki torches and Chinese lanterns. There were pigs on a spit. There were rowboats and canoes down on the lake. There was a keg of beer in every room, and there were many rooms. There was square dancing in the barn and live music on the giant porch. And there was a great deal of speculation about who the hell was. I didn't bother with the truth - just a shrug and a smile and a "Please, make yourself at home, and have fun. I've got to check on my other guests." I held court like some later-day Gatsby, walking around in a smoking jacket and swilling Drambuie.

The event went on in one form or another for nearly three days. People came and went. I had more food and more beer sent in. New friendships were forged. Babies were made. Two couples who met that weekend eventually married. (One is now separated but hey, what can you do?) All in all, I'd say three hundred showed up at that little get together. The good ones stuck around and helped me clean up, and are still friends.

Anyway, the party was a success, and there for a brief time, I was thought of as a thoughtful and genial host. Every month I'd do something similar, but on a smaller scale. Halloweens were of particular intensity, as the giant basement of Georgia Farm was never restored, and looked very much like a good place for an Inquisition, Spanish style. Christmas was fun too, with room for a twenty foot tree in the main hall, and a string quartet. And St. Patty's Day? Don't even get me started. That one made Hot Springs look like a Lenten Dinner...

Mike
Posted 07-13-08 01:07 PM

Because another zipper is simply too dangerous.

Mike
Posted 07-13-08 03:20 PM

quote:
I owe Mike a debt of gratitude for making me laugh, learn, wonder, and gasp.

You're welcome. Truth is, getting a smile out of a stranger is about the most you can hope for from a TV show, and really, it's not such a small thing. We talk about a lot of different things here in the mudroom, and there is no shortage of related topics relevant to the show. But it's main purpose has been and always will be, a good-natured attempt to make you smile.

(The gasping and wondering is a bonus.)

Mike
Posted 07-13-08 03:30 PM

quote:
Well I never...Now I'm offended. You never say Hi to me either!

No Grasshopper, but if memory serves, I gave you your name...

Night,
Mike
Posted 07-13-08 11:53 PM

quote:
More and more I have become emotionally detached while reading the MB because of the neediness of some, the negativity expressed by others to get Mike's attention, and feeling out of the loop about the soap opera element when I don't read/post on a daily basis.

Karen, you're a smart cookie. And you make a fine quilt.

"I still enjoy the show, laugh at Mike, and get irritated sometimes by what he says, but I no longer allow emotion into it."

Kristi, you're a smart cookie. And you make a fine PR chick.

"No! G0d D@mn it Mike dont you dare go to bed. I worked all day during this amazing Mike post day, when I did get a break my router freaked out, my computer spontaneously shuts down, and when I finally get on the MB you leave."

April,

You'll be pleased to know that when I got up to pee, I saw that my fabulous TX-2000 was still on, and frozen on your post. So I am responding, just prior to shutting down for real. If I haven't welcomed you before, this is it. Welcome. Your posts are kind and sweet. I think your swell. Thanks for being nice. I'll think of you in a few hours, when I pee again.

Au Revoir,
Mike
Posted 07-14-08 02:12 AM

"Many here have been voicing fears over the last few weeks about the end of DJ and this community that has been built."

Hi Maks,

Those fears first surfaced a few weeks after my very first post, several years ago. They have never gone away, and I doubt they ever will. People tend to look for endings, and this little experiment will certainly have one. The fact is, Dirty Jobs is going off the air, and The Mudroom is going to close, forever.

But here's another fact.
Neither of those happenings are on the horizon.

"There is a dirty tension in the mudroom, and I think knowing either way, will help the acceptance process begin."

Ahh but Maks, we do know - with certainty - that the end will come. We just don't know when. I remember a twentieth century existentialist named Martin Heidegger, who argued that very essence of human existence was literally, "being-toward-death." He believed the only way to live happily and authentically was to embrace the inevitable end, and live meaningful lives in the shadow of death.

I don't know that German Existentialism is the best way to enjoy a weekend, but Heidegger had a point. Let's enjoy what we have while we have it. We'll sort the rest out later.

Mike
Posted 07-19-08 03:16 PM

"Please give a hopeful young woman with a silly screen name some answers and, if you're so inclined, maybe a little advice?"

Sarah,

Regarding my toes, you are correct. The one that stayed home is in fact longer than the on that went to the market. The one that had roast beef however, is perfectly formed, and situated properly between the one that stayed home and the one that had none. Sadly, the one that went wee wee wee all the way home, was crushed by a cow in Season 1, and no longer has a nail. More troubling, is the space between the Hallux, (the one that went to market), and the one that stayed home. I don't know why it's there, but it's large enough to accommodate another toe. Thankfully, there is none there.

My feet are in fact, quite flat. I don't wear arches, because real men don't do such things. None of my toes have what I would call inordinate hair on them. Barsky however, is hairy like a monkey.

"Thank you so much, Mike."
Anytime.

"You're spiffy."
Indeed.

"But then, you probably already knew that."
I always suspected I was spiffy, but never knew for sure. Until now.

Mike

PS I stand by the earlier voiceover answer.
Posted 07-22-08 12:10 AM

"Obviously you should of brought me along. If I was with you, you would be thinking about the computer or the MB."

Sparkling,

I've no doubt you're correct. Alas, the activities to which you allude do not fall under the "relaxing" category, which is my primary objective through Sunday.

"Somewhere there is a Mike-less beach chair and a little umbrella-ed drink with no one to drink it.... Poor little umbrella-ed drink..."

Ms. Platypus,

Do you think me completely insane? What leads you to assume the chair is empty? And what in the name of all that's holy would cause you to imagine a drink with an umbrella anywhere near my past, present, or future?

Thanks to television, the real scene is simple enough to describe. You know the Corona commercials - the ones shot on the beach? Well, it's that, only better. I this case, the Corona is a Falstaff, and I'm drinking it from a large flagon filled with ice. (Yeah I know, it's 7am. Who cares?) The chair you describe is in fact a hammock, and I am in it, comfortably slouched and oriented perfectly between two towering palms. Below me is white sand and black lava. Several feet to my right is the Pacific, which manages at this time of day to be several different shades of blue, each more beautiful than the next. It's quiet, except for a mourning dove and a grackel, who seem to be having a difference of opinion somewhere in the distance. Behind me, the sun is rising over the volcano, cutting through the mountain mist and making little rainbows on it's way to the beach, which is where I am and where I plan to stay till the beer runs dry.

There.
Feel better?

Mike
Posted 07-25-08 01:12 PM

CHAPTER 8

AUGUST

I'm always in a hammock, grasshopper.
Sometimes, it just looks like a sewer.

The rest of my summer is shrouded in mystery.

Mike
Posted 08-03-08 03:22 AM

"How often are your first impressions right?

Hi Kathleen,
I'd say around 60 percent.

"Especially with the jobs and people you meet."

I work hard to ignore my first impressions, because most people work so hard to make a good one. Consequently, there's not much point in trying to figure someone out in a hurry, especially if they are likely putting their best foot forward. And even if they are presenting themselves as they really are, I'm not intuitive enough to size people up at a glance. They're just too complicated.

"With the variety of people you have met and the jobs you have done, does anyone/anything surprise you anymore?"

I'm still surprised by people who are totally immune to the lure of television. When I find them, I want to celebrate. I could give you a list, but those not on it might be insulted.

"What would we be surprised to know about you?"
Hard to say. Do you surprise easily?

"Do you have any surprises left?"
Plenty.

"I feel like I should apologize."
There' no need.

"Sorry my first impressions were wrong."
You had a 50/50 shot.

"Glad I have stuck around."
Ditto.

Mike
Posted 08-03-08 08:29 PM

"I had never heard of the "reverse commute" before but I find it really interesting."

Hi Lori,

The Reverse Commute, (TRC) has always been a big part of my adult life. My aversion to stalled traffic and lines of any kind is profound, and I'll often forego any activity that requires me to go shoulder to shoulder with the masses. A few examples:

New Years in Time Square
Movies Theatres on Weekends
Street Fairs
Stadium Seating of any kind

The lengths I used to take to avoid traffic baffled some, but always paid off, to the point where I began to adapt the same attitude toward lots of other pursuits, including my career. There is always an alternative route, and it usually more interesting.

Mike
Posted 08-03-08 11:36 PM

(I always avoid traffic I can get around the city in rush hour no problem I know almost every back route around, it may take me longer sometime to get somewhere but at least I get there sane an happy)

"Do you ever feel like Stretch Armstrong?"

I remember Stretch all too well, and the memories are somewhat disturbing.

As I recall, one of my Mother's friends gave me the thing for my 9th birthday, and I resented everything about it. It was weirdly heavy, and oddly dressed. I didn't like the way it looked at me. (And who gives a doll to a nine year old boy?) For months, it stayed in it's box, jammed unceremoniously under my bed with a butterfly collection and some illegal fireworks. Then one day, for no particular reason, I pulled the thing out and gave it a close look.

I can't say I ever warmed up to being a doll owner, but I will admit to a certain fascination with Mr. Armstrong. His composition was a great mystery. He would bend and stretch in any direction, but only responded to subtle pressure. If you punched him or poked him violently, it was like hitting solid rock. Hmm...

There was nothing on the box to indicate or explain what magical component Stretch was filled with, but I was immediately intrigued, and embarked upon a series of experiments that are best left in my distant memory. I will confess to dropping Stretch from great heights, testing his resistance to open flame (surprisingly good) and backing my father's station wagon over him. Repeatedly. (Yes, I drove at nine.) There was a vice, a screw press, and a drill in my grandfathers workshop. All were utilized. There was an experiment with mercury, and some amazing reactions to the fireworks. (The M-80 should have blown him to pieces, but instead exploded harmlessly against his shoulder blades, in spite of being firmly affixed with electrical tape. Remarkable.) I also froze Stretch solid, and watched him thaw in the sun later that same day. He was never the same after that. Squishier, somehow. (Probably a good thing that microwaves were not yet around.)

You might think that his resiliency and innate survival skill would eventually endear me to Stretch, but it was really the exact opposite. His indefatigable will to live turned my resentment into something darker, and his incredible toughness only served to magnify my own twisted desire to heap more and more indignity upon this wretched, yet indestructible being.

Eventually, I took Stretch for that long walk where two leave and only one returns. I situated him on the bank of the creek on the far edge of our property, and hunkered down about 50 yards away, with my bolt action .22 caliber rifle. (Yes, I owned a gun at nine. Several, in fact. Don't tell my Mother.)

There, on a warm, Indian Summer afternoon, I took careful aim from my imaginary bunker, and put a bullet through Stretch Armstrong's hairless chest.

I'm all better now.
Mike
Posted 08-04-08 10:36 PM

uote:
I was thinking today that it is soooo weird how some small injuries hurt ALOT more than the bigger ones

That's a fact, Katie.

Currently, I'm marveling at a blister on the palm of my right hand. I earned it Tuesday, when I picked up an burning hot, iron tamping bar that had been lying in the Arizona sun for six hours. It sizzled and blistered immediately. Later that day, while swinging an ax for the five hundredth time into the stubborn root of a giant cactus that simply didn't wish to be removed from the rocky ground, the blister exploded. Now, my hand hurts when I open it. And close it. And look at it.

On the positive side, it has completely taken my mind off of my partially dislocated shoulder.

Mike
Posted 08-09-08 01:17 PM

(I posted this one just because MIKE NEVER UPDATED MY INJURY LIST, THAT I WORKED ON SO HARD, and Sorry I feel better now)

quote:
Write me a limerick. Pretend you are Mike and tell me you like me, you really like me!

When going commando I know
My zipper should always be closed.
But when in a kilt
(And properly built)
I might not rule out the hose...

Mike
Posted 08-09-08 07:32 PM

quote:
I really enjoyed your story about Stretch Armstrong. Except you shouldn't be embarrassed about having 'a doll'. For boys they're called 'action figures' and hence perfectly normal.

Thanks Harold

In the interest of full disclosure, I should say that not long after the Stretch incident, a Barbie doll came into my possession. The details and particulars are inconsequential. The point is, I kept her around for a few days, for reasons only understood by a nine year old boy.

Turns out, she was an action figure too.

Mike
Posted 08-23-08 09:53 PM

Salut

J'aimerais être à la tête du nord et me salir avec vous. Suggérez un emploi et si c'est assez crasseux, je serai là. Mais s'il vous plaît, assurez-vous que c'est sale.

Bonne nuit.

Mike
Posted 08-24-08 01:37 AM

Translation thanks to Wallaby and Meaghan

"Hello

I would like to head north and get dirty with you. Suggest a really dirty/disgusting job and I'll be there. But please, would you ensure that it's dirty.

Goodnight
Mike"

quote:
does anyone know how often mike checks the message boards?

Hi there ttbomb,

The answer is more than you think, but not as much as I'd like. Sign of the times, I'm afraid. Thanks though, for topping by.

Mike
Posted 08-30-08 03:09 AM

Chop your own wood - it'll warm you twice.

Mike
Posted 08-30-08 03:23 AM

Hi Morwen,

I'm doing a load of laundry as we speak. Window washing is next.

Mike
Posted 08-30-08 01:59 PM

CHAPTER 9

SEPTEMBER

I view these "Habits" with profound suspicion, and deep skepticism. I once patterned a similar list called 7 Habits of Highly Effluent People, which was a parody of the original.

Please note the difference between the terms Effluent and Effective.

(It's the part that makes it funny.)

Mike
Posted 09-05-08 12:42 PM

Mike said, (years ago) "Sometimes, I really envy people who know precisely what they want to be. Other times, I pity them."

Kelby writes, (minutes ago),

"I can't get over the feeling that is sounded a bit self-righteous to say that you pity someone. I think its just that word I don't like."

Hi Kelby

I don't care for the word either, but I'll stand by the quote for three reasons.

First of all, I qualified the point with "sometimes" and "other times." I'm not making a sweeping statement.

Secondly, though I would prefer to never be pitied, it's not for me to decide if someone chooses to pity me. I have no say in the matter. Likewise, I have every right to pity you, if I find you pathetic. (I don't. I find you rather charming.)

Thirdly, I meant it. I know people who live their lives with charts and goals and mission statements and action plans. People who always know precisely what they want to accomplish with every action and every decision. Such people inspire in me a mix of admiration and sorrow. Or, as I said two years ago, envy and pity. Either way, no self-righteousness intended. I find that pathetic.

Mike
Posted 09-08-08 02:48 AM

For the record Lidia, the alligator still calls...

Mike
Posted 09-09-08 11:46 PM

"Why live in downtown San Francisco then? The view from your apartment is AMAZING, that’s a given. However, a SF apartment with a view of the bridge is not exactly an exercise in frugality."

Hi Deb

More happenstance than anything. I came up here for a short time to impersonate a host on a show called Evening Magazine. I was filling while the executive producer, an old friend of mine, looked for a permanent replacement. The apartment was part of the deal. Well, things dragged on longer than expected. I had fun at the job, and stuck around longer than planned.

A man's gotta live somewhere, and there I was. Haven't had time to move since.

Mike
Posted 09-11-08 09:03 PM

"So, I was cleaning this morning… okay, maybe not full out cleaning… I was vacuuming and I had to move something in the closet that I use as storage. To my horror, there has been a leak in that closet for I don’t know how long and there is mold all over the rug, baseboards and some of the wall."

Fleur

Tleur, Fleur, Fleur,

This is what happens when you vacuum and move things around. I've always maintained that such things lead to trouble.

Mike
Posted 09-20-08 11:12 AM

Wendy

I suspect I would have put it on the mantle, behind the baby bottle full of horse semen collected at Babcock Farms nearly 5 years ago. As trophies go, that one will never be trumped.

Mike
Posted 09-20-08 11:27 AM

[quote]Mike, my frivolous question for you is how many watches do you own?"

Hi Karen

Dozens. As a vagrant for nearly a decade, a watch was one of the few gifts that I could actually use, enjoy, and store. Friends knew that anything larger would have no place to go. Not much different know.

"Sometimes you wear a watch to a Dirty Job, but usually not. There have been times when your watch is visible in the beginning of an episode, but it has been removed as the day progresses."

True enough. After 200 jobs, you'd think I'd have the sense to remember to take the thing off at the beginning of the day. But I don't. Typically, I realize at some point in the job that I have no business wearing a watch. (FYI, do NOT attempt any form of artificial insemination while wearing a Tag Hauer.) Most often, I remove it in the middle of a shot, and toss it to Dave, who tosses it to Meatwolf, who tosses it to Ira, who eventually gives it back to me.

"I have noticed a watch with a black leather band, one with a brown leather strap, another with a stainless steel band as well as the custom-made watch your Sweetie gave you as a Christmas present."

You are indeed, a most discerning viewer.

"Do you prefer the band material to be metal or leather?"
Leather. Easier to adjust. Less likely to remove hair by the root.

"Is it more comfortable to wear a stretchy band, a buckle or push button foldover clasp?

A buckle. Just like a belt. Why mess with a good thing?

"Any useless extra features?"

No. I despise watches that tell me the time in Tokyo and Mumbai. Or calculate my altitude, depth, and current moon phase. No metric converter, thank you. I like an analog dial, with a second hand. No Roman numerals. That civilization ended some time ago. I don't mind a place for the date, as long as it doesn't include the month. (If I don't what month I'm in, knowing the correct time will not help me.)

"Did you wear a dressy watch to the Emmys?"
Yes. And I referred to it with alarming regularity.

"With your constant traveling, have you forgotten to set your watch to the correct time zone?"

Actually, I never reset my watch. It helps me remember that I'm only passing through wherever I am.

"Have you lost your watch during a memorable moment on DJ?"

Not yet.
But it's only a matter of time.

Mike

PS. Answering these questions should no be interpreted as a subtle request for a new watch. Thank you.
Posted 09-21-08 10:22 PM

Ladies,

Would someone kindly give our little woodchuck a hug? I don't think the little fella likes my acorns.

Mike
Posted 09-21-08 11:38 PM

OK I’m down to the home stretch now, just 3 more chapters

Christina

Registered: 12-17-07

Ignored post by bralco posted

Senior Member

Posted

Dang that man posted alot. Busy guy. Here we go…..

CHAPTER 10

OCTOBER

"You've been looking a little stiff lately."

Hi Kelby,

You don't know the half of it.

"Sometimes I'm amazed that you can get into all of the tight spaces you do."

In fact, it's the other way around. Getting in is never the problem. Getting out however, has become increasingly problematic.

"But is seems that even the not so tight spaces are taking you a little longer these days. Are the hundreds of jobs you've done finally catching up with you?"

That's fair to say.

"With some of the positions you get in, it looks like you could get some serious cramping going on."

The morning after The Star of India Shoot, I nearly fell into the sink while brushing my teeth. It's surprising how many strange muscles you use when dangling from a bosins chair, rubbing animal fat on a wooden mast, and crawling backwards out of a steeply angled, hollow steel tube. It's my belief that stretching wont help such things.

Mike
Posted 10-08-08 02:47 PM

[quote]I hope to get some clarification on this one, because, well, I need clarification in my life."

Don't we all Dani, don't we all.

Building a show means putting a complete episode into its proper TRT, (total running time.) For Jobs, that's 44 minutes, and that includes two stories, (usually,) the open, the teases, the outtakes, and credits. What's left goes to advertising and network promos. Making all that fit together is trickier than it sounds.

Ideally, show builds would start with the selection of two stories, well-suited for each other in terms of content, varying tone, geographical diversity, and most importantly, complimentary time. (Two 20 minute stories work very nicely, leaving four minutes for teases, opens, etc.) This would require a large inventory of stories, previously shot and edited. If you don't have such an inventory, you are forced to build the show from whatever stories you have available, or whatever you are about to shoot, and that's called "shooting to air." It's a bit like trying to throw together a fabulous meal with only two ingredients. Unless you happen to have some king crab and fresh corn on the cob lying around, it's a challenge.

The Dirty 30's in last weeks episode were an attempt to fill 5 minutes of time, without using another story. We had a great piece with the Star of India, but it was 35 minutes long. To make it fit with another, we would have had to cut out a lot of content from both stories. Instead, we built the Dirty Thirty - a device that will hopefully reappear from time to time, and allow us to save more stories for future shows. (Regarding some earlier questions about that - the title is not a reference to content or innuendo, only to time - e.g., 30 seconds. And innuendo, is only where you find it.)

Mike
Posted 10-10-08 08:17 PM

Doug is just fine - with me right now in fact, recuperating after a nasty day on a walnut farm. He went to Japan for a while and missed a few shoots. But fear not - he has returned, and will likely never leave again. He missed me that much.

Mike
Posted 10-15-08 12:33 AM

quote:
I do like Jer's question though, how did this come about Mike?

Hi Sal,

The call came from a PR person at Discovery, and went something like this.

DCI: Mike?
Mike: Yeah.
DCI: Sesame Street?
Mike: Depends. Oscar?
DCI: Yes.
Mike: Can I get in the can?
DCI: Call you back in five.

Five minutes later.

Mike: Hello?
DCI: Highly irregular, but they'll let you in the can.
Mike: Book it.

And just like that, I'm cracking wise with my childhood hero. Strange days.

Mike
Posted 10-18-08 08:12 PM

quote:
the people of South Carolina and Georgia are the nicest and friendliest I've meet. Very pleasant and easy going.

Hi Maureen, and welcome back.

Very true about that part of the country. I feel welcome most everywhere, but those folks take it to another level. Hospitality on steroids.

Mike
Posted 10-19-08 03:04 PM

"In the presence of female hosts, do you or have you ever had to restrain your use of profanity?"

My cussing ethics are situational, and maybe somewhat gender guided. Mainly, I take my cue from the people I'm around. In many cases, it's clear I'm working with someone who does not appreciate salty chatter. When that's the case, the crew and I are careful to watch our mouths. Suffice it to say I never cast the first stone. Certainly we keep it G-rated around kids. And personally, I edit myself a bit more around women.

"Have you ever been out-cussed by a woman in any situation?"

I have been out-cussed by women in every situation.

Mike
Posted 10-18-08 08:33 PM

quote:
It does make (some) women feel good as well.

Hi Susie,

It's funny, just last month this came up at a dinner in LA. There were six of us dining in a nice restaurant - a business meeting of sorts. I didn't know anyone personally. Four men, two women.

After the appetizer, one of the ladies excused herself. When she stood, I stood. The men looked confused, as did the woman leaving. When she returned, I stood again, and she said, "really, you don't need to do that."

"I know," I replied.
"Then why do you do it," asked her husband.
"To make you look bad," I said.

We all chuckled, and he said, "Mission accomplished." Then we discussed the sorry state of a world where everyone was treated exactly the same way, and agreed that "equality," taken to the extreme, was one of those things to be wary of. The rest of the conversation was not memorable.

Before desert though, the other woman excused herself. All the men stood. Go figure.

Mike
Posted 10-18-08 09:58 PM

I no longer dream.

Mike
Posted 10-21-08 08:36 PM

"I don't know how you didn't puke afterwards."

What makes you think I didn't?

Mike
Posted 10-21-08 10:06 PM

"I hope you make it out of this Mud Room alive."

Hi Freckleface,

Thanks. Me too.

"Do you usually rile people up this much?"

I try. Lord knows, I try.

"You seem like you can handle just about anything now. I hope to see you on the other side."

Save me a seat.

Wow. How do you top that?

You'll see, Freckleface. You'll see.

Mike
Posted 10-22-08 12:37 AM

quote:
So Mike, are you an adventurous eater?

Hi Nola,

Believe it or not, there are no foods I do not enjoy. Certainly, some more than others, but honestly, I always clean my plate, and I never refuse what was prepared.

Dave may be a bit more willing to eat those things not traditionally associated with the "food pyramid," i.e., cod sperm, leeches, maggots, jars of jam, etc., but he is very picky about spices and specific tastes. Pepper and onions for instance, are strictly verbotten. He's probably more adventurous, but I will eat anything on any menu. No exceptions.

Mike
Posted 10-22-08 01:21 AM

I recall a cup of coffee that kept my spoon from hitting the rim.

Mike
Posted 10-22-08 01:23 AM

Harold

Too tired to type, and my giant head is heavy.
But your observations, like your artwork, made me guffaw and chortle.

Mike
Posted 10-31-08 01:34 AM

CHAPTER 11

NOVEMBER

"How can you handle the popularity? How could you keep your common sense and remain a down-to-earth guy?"

Hi Mona

I don't live in Hollywood.
I don't have a publicist.
I don't have an agent.
I don't have a manager.
I avoid popular nightspots and trendy restaurants.
I don't attend premieres.
I don't date starlets.

Whatever popularity I might enjoy, is mostly kept at arms length. Which is where I like it. As for my common-sense, I can provide references happy to confirm the opposite. But thank you for the compliment.

quote:
Despite the firmest of foundations, despite family and friends willing to knock you down a peg or two, ultimately you must ground yourself. What do you rely on?

Kathy,

I keep myself grounded by making sure you see me at my worst.

Mike
Posted 11-01-08 10:38 PM

quote:
PT Barnum was one of the greatest salesman of all time. How is Mike like PT Barnum? Mike Do you identify with him?

Hi Cherry

Barnum saw his audience as marks, and constantly devised more effective ways to separate them from their money. He was good at it, and provided actual entertainment value for what he called, "a genuine brand of bona fide malarkey." I admire his mix of honesty and hucksterism, but see him as more opportunistic and ambitious than yours truly. (Outside the context of a "circus," he would have been labeled a con man.) I prefer to see the people who respond to me as coconspirators - people "in on the joke," and well aware of the many forces that drive television and advertising and all the rest of it. How they see themselves is another matter, and not for me to speculate on.

Mike
Posted 11-02-08 12:00 AM

"I've lost 78 lbs since July so I know allll about it. Maybe if / when we ever meet again Mike you can get your arms all the way around me this time."

I'll look forward to it Tanya. And I will give Barsky your regards. Congrats!

Mike
Posted 11-02-08 01:02 AM

quote:
I am far from a prude but that oval office joke just left me in the dust. I am having a respect issue here. I love to laugh and have fun but that was something just did not sit right with me.

Hi Lisa,

Why do you suppose the red phone rang at the very end?

Mike
Posted 11-07-08 04:30 AM

I must be seeing things.

After nearly four years here, two dudes - neither of which is me - are having a dustup in The Mudroom?

Somebody pinch me.

Mike
Posted 11-13-08 06:41 AM

Help me Sarah-Wan, you are my only hope.

I am but a slave to former contracts and past alliances, compelled to continue narrating even as time grows short. I live now in daily fear that my association with these "hunters of the paranormal" will taint my public persona, pulling my fragile identity into the ranks of true believers. This must not happen, Sarah-Wan, for my own world view does not allow for the possibility of chatting up the dead. Spread the word - I narrate, but I do not believe. And I will never Host.

Help me Sarah-Wan. You are my only hope...

Posted 11-14-08 10:35 AM

CHAPTER 12

DECEMBER
(Hey don’t blame me it’s not my fault it’s a short chapter)

quote:
Thank you for being real, dirty, and brown, Mike Rowe. Too few people are these days. If I could, I would give you a hug of appreciation, and not care about getting dirty doing so. That's the whole point, is it not? **smiles** Keep it real, and keep it dirty.

Hey there,

Where you been all my life?
Thanks for watching, and welcome.

Mike

PS.
Listen to Platy. She's smarter than she thinks...
Posted 12-24-08 02:06 AM

quote:
Odds that Mike Rowe will post on this thread? Pretty far fetched,

Go figure.

Mike
Posted 12-24-08 02:10 AM

quote:
I thought he made some interesting points but there was a moment during my chuckling that I thought to myself, huh....Mike sounds a little high and mighty. It was the part where he was talking about other celebrities and their contributions to the Green Movement.

Hi Kelby

My highness and mightyness, such as they exist, come from my belief that the people featured on Dirty Jobs are far and away better role models for living an environmentally friendly life than any celebrity - including yours truly. If you heard something in the show that suggested I was comparing myself to the likes of Brad or Leo or Al Gore or any other Green apologist, I'd be interested in knowing what you heard that lead to such a conclusion. All of my comparisons - and conclusions - are based on the actions of people who are not me. I would never hold myself out as a role model for Green, Brown, or any shade in between.

Mike
Posted 12-24-08 02:33 AM

quote:
I guess Mike can't win either way.

Hi Kelby

That sentiment, and the always tender musing of my favorite rodent, are probably the truest things written in this thread.

If I take a point of view on any topic - even a detached one - I'm certain to rankle the sensibilities of those loyal fans who see the world differently than me. (See Gayle's previous post.) I then become another guy trying to impose my beliefs on the masses. On the other hand, if I try and keep my personal feelings out of it, I'll be accused of being too detached, or as Kristi suggests, another "Do as I say not as I do" type.

Let's start with Kristi, who writes

"Ugh Mike. Just Ugh! Can I ask you an honest question? Does the phrase, "Do as I say not as I do," really belong in the message you are trying to put out?"

In my opinion, yes. I do my best to be congruent in what I say and what I do, but I fall short of the mark, and prefer not to pretend otherwise. My ideas and opinions are no more valid than yours, or Leo's, or Brad's. (Isn't it cool, how we're all on a first name basis?) If an idea has merit, it should be able to stand on it's own. If it can't, I don't want the job of propping it up single-handedly. Sure, I'll play the cards I have as best I can, but not to the point of claiming some moral high ground. Personally, I'd be very suspicious of anyone who claimed to always practice all that they preach. Besides, I'm not preaching.

"Of course you wouldn't HOLD yourself out as a role model, but you are perceived as one nonetheless."
Only by those who insist as perceiving me in that way. Screwy Squirrel for instance, may have another opinion.

"Once any of us have taken a stance on an issue it places people in a position to accept or reject our stance."
Other options might include considering the facts, analyzing the facts, or ignoring the issue altogether. Accepting and rejecting are merely extremes, in my opinion.

"Just as we can't possibly "Know" you personally neither can we "Know" the Brad Pitt's and Sean Penn's of the world. What we "Know" of you lies in what you allow us to see, the same with any celebrity."
Which is precisely why you should look past the source. Examine the claims, separate from the claimant. Look to the facts and the evidence, not the packaging. Not the spokesman.

"As humans, we follow what lies closest to what we believe."
We believe what makes us comfortable, by and large. And our beliefs should be constantly challenged, in my opinion.

"By making a statement for or against something you unwittingly hold yourself out as a role model. The mere nature of "celebrity" makes the view more widely known."
Sure, but that doesn't make the view any more valid. And the mere nature of "individuality" gives any thinking human the power to dismiss bad ideas out of hand, regardless of who promotes them.

"(As unsavory a word as celebrity is Mike, you are one.)"
Millions and millions of people that have never seen my face or heard my name might disagree. As would dozens of close friends and family members who laugh at such a description. However, you have every right to see me that way, if you wish.

"For example Take your MRW initiative. It asks the public at large to re-examine why they think the way they do in regards to a hard work and our nations infrastructure. It has your name on it. You obviously feel passionate about it. You feel a genuine change is needed. Why is your message different in any way from another random celebrity who comes out in support of what they feel?"

It isn't. And I encourage you to examine my claims and contentions, separate from my belief or my passion. Like Dirty Jobs, MRW should only succeed if the underlying premise has merit.

"I guess I am just trying to point out that taking a stance on something, and especially doing it publicly, places you in a position to be a role model."
It also puts me in the position of being maligned. The decision to do either is not ultimately up to me.

"You know I almost almost always side with you, but on this point I just get tired of seeing you with the,"Don't do what I do, do what I say" attitude."

Your words, not mine. My attitude is more along the lines of "Here's what I think, and this is why. Now figure the rest out yourself."

Not as snappy on a tee-shirt perhaps, but there it is.

Hello Gayle,

"While I know my support of the Green Movement here is comparable to going upstream against a big glib wave of personality I am the ever faithful opposition."

Then I can only assume you enjoy the challenge. There are thousands of websites and millions of people who would welcome another true believer the rank and file. You might start with Earth First.

"Your High and Mightiness is only exceed by your barely concealed slightly seething antagonism for those celebrities you feel don't share your views."
I can only hope that they will find the strength to accept the idea that others might not see the issue in the same way that they do. I sure hope I didn't hurt their feelings, but assume their skins are thick enough to absorb a slightly different view. Besides, I have no qualm with them. I just challenge a few of their assumptions, and humbly suggest that other people might offer a more relatable and practical example for "green" living.

"The term you used, apologist. The placement was positively full of a rather pitched contempt."
Gayle, I have no contempt for people who disagree with me. Take you for instance. I think you're swell.

"I'm sure those people you've named are far from the lives of the people you profile but so are you in many ways."
Which is precisely why Gayle, I've made no such claim. I merely point those who I believe are providing great examples for the rest of us. In this case, the people I've met on Dirty Jobs. I'm not putting myself out there as an example. I'm pointing to those who impress me the most.

"Your respect is to be commended and I have always admired it."
Thanks. For a minute there, I was afraid you saw me as a "glib personality." Don't know where I got that idea.

"But, I also know you would not take a turn in their lives and forgo the one you now have."
You assume a great deal, as well as imply that they would change places with me. I'd be careful about that.

"Let's be realistic about that now."
OK, I'll level with you. The truth is, I wouldn't trade my life for anybody's, Gayle. Not Bill Bretherton's, not Bob the Pig Farmers, not Albert Einstiens, not George Washington's, not Brad Pitt's. I like the life I have, and wouldn't trade with anyone. But tell me, as long as we're being realistic, who would you prefer to be, instead of yourself?"

"I have never seen you as a role model. Although I am quite sure there are many others who do see you as such. Mr. Rowe, it comes with the territory and I'm sure you are quite aware of it. Being in a form of public life and having a soap box and an opinion does that you know."

Indeed I do.

"So what if Brad wants to live in NO and ride his bike when he is home. Work with the people there to help rebuild their homes. Where it seems the powers that be want them to give up their land to development by others with say an income closer to your own. I say more power to him."

I agree, wholeheartedly. Brad seems to care deeply about the issues, and I applaud his efforts to help out. So do millions of others, as evidenced by all the press he generates. (Check out the feature on him in this months Architectural Digest.) I just think that, when it comes to a relatable role model, Matt Freund is a better choice. As is Bob Coombs, and about a hundred others featured on Dirty Jobs. Unfortunately, no one seems terribly interested in their stories, and no one is putting them on the cover of anything. Their actions are ignored because they are anonymous.

"If Leo wants to lend his name and money to environmental causes. Those he clearly believes in. Because he wants the children he has some day live in world if not better at least close to the one we have now. I say I wish him well."

Me too.

"It may be just your style. One that may in the final truth be one I cannot accept, but I must say you may want to take a look at the beam in your own eye before you go talking about the speck you say is obscuring the vision of others."

"Ahh, The New Testament. (Matthew, right?) Tis the season!

All I can tell you Gayle, is that I have no delusion about my own shortcomings. My vision is most certainly impaired, and I've never tried to pretend otherwise. However, I have a point of view, and I've shared it openly and honestly. All I can do is thank you for watching, and wish you a Glib and Merry Christmas.

Mike
Posted 12-24-08 09:11 PM

Ok I’m done now. I hope you enjoyed the look back. Feel free to add to any chapter you wish.

Christina

Hey Mike, THANKS….. You know for everything
chris

Registered: 12-17-07

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rosegirl

Senior Member

Posted

Chris, you are the BEST!!

Thank again for your amazing posts!

Kim

Registered: 08-24-08

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Toni Lynn

Senior Member

Posted

Chris,

I'm so glad you are re-stickied. I like how you "categorize" some of the posts...by theme.

I know that we can go back and read Mike's posts in chronological order, but I like how you group them.

When I was new to the message board, it was your sticky that kept me in the room for more. Otherwise, I may not have "stuck" around myself.

TL

Registered: 09-15-08

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moimeme

Senior Member

Posted

Welcome back, Chris. You're fantastic. Congrats on the re-sticky!

Tina

Registered: 11-15-07

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rosegirl

Senior Member

Posted

Hurray, Chris!

XX
Kim

Registered: 08-24-08

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daintylittlefemininefeet

Senior Member

Posted

Wow Chris!!! What a big come back!!!

This thread really deserves to stay sticky. I'm so happy you're bacccck!!!!!

Cynthia
....wiping tears while doing happy dance...

Registered: 06-19-08

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stardog

Senior Member

Posted

Welcome back Chris,

I just read January through December, so much fun.

Maria

Registered: 02-02-08

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east1952

Senior Member

Posted

Chris, I was just doing some research, and the answers came up on these newest posts of yours. I hadn't realize that you were back and "sticky" again! I'm glad to see you back here again!

What I was searching for was Mike's comments on how he would "exit" the mud room. One of the quotes you posted was actually his reply to me on whether the "party" was still on:

"There are many rooms in the party house. The host can't be everywhere at once, but I assure you, he is still on the property."

The other reply was to Dani when she asked what his departure would be like:

"When I leave, you'll know it. Nothing cryptic - promise."

More recently Kristi asked him whether he had left the MB for good, and as I recall his answer was a little more vague, something along the lines of he didn't believe in drawn out goodbyes.

So, now I'm left to wonder just HOW we'll know if Mike has indeed left the building? Considering he hasn't been posting on MRW either, I would think he is just too busy, and we'll just have to be patient. Still, I can't help but be suspicious that the days of Mike's long, thoughtful and sometimes hilarious posts are long gone. And that makes me very sad...

Liz

Registered: 12-07-06

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marni5410

Junior Member

Posted

To Whom it May Concern ('cause I understand the man himself doesn't necessarily read all these):

Questions, I think. Being somewhat internet knowledgeable, I don't know how these forums applications work and haven't the foggiest idea how to put out an idea for a show. I'll put it here and then someone who reads these may direct me further (thanks ahead of time). I would otherwise write a letter, but cant seem to find an address either. The reason for all this, I'm a pastry chef, not an IT tech (although I majored in math/science before switching, go figure). Okay, so my idea for a dirty job is a pastry shop like, for example, Posh Pastries in Santa Clarita, CA. I didn't know how to search the forums and see if something like this had been done before. I'm not sure it qualifies dirty enough, but you'd be surprised what can happen with flour, sugar and lots of chocolate. As for other meanings of the word dirty, it's a shop of feisty females. I'll leave it at this and see what happens. Thanks for now.

Marni Singer
Owner, Posh Pastries (was it too transparent?)

Registered: 01-15-09

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Toni Lynn

Senior Member

Posted

Hi Marni,

I am just an ordinary "poster" on the forum here, but I saw your post, which you posted a couple of weeks ago...so, you might have already figured out where to post your idea.

But, in case you haven't, and you come back here to see if anyone responded to you, I wanted to tell you that if you look in the upper left corner of this "page" you'll see a link for "Dirty Jobs" in blue letters. That takes you to all the forums for DJ.

Once there, you'll see along the left side a place to click and submit show ideas.

TL

Registered: 09-15-08

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Senior Member

Posted

Holy smokes!!!!!!

I've been away for a while. Wow

I'm still stickyed.......

chris

Now I'm trying to get caught up......

Registered: 12-17-07

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pingu_is_my_hero

Senior Member

Posted

Oh my Chris!
You have been sorely missed. I don't think you will have much to catch up on as far as Mike's posts go though. He's been very busy elsewhere and so he has not been around. Hopefully once things settle down , he will take some time for a nice long visit.

Anyway , how have you been? How is Corey and the rest of the family?

So glad to see you back!

grasshopper

Registered: 12-14-07

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daintylittlefemininefeet

Senior Member

Posted

Nice to hear from you, Chris!!!

Cynthia

Registered: 06-19-08

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Senior Member

Posted

Hey hi
Meagan and Cynthia

I'm not doing bad. An I see Mike hasn't posted much (I kinda thought he might post a comment about my 08 post it was very hopeful thinking on my part)

Well Cory is no longer Cory she is Court and we have been real busy keeping up with her. She is healthy no broken bones and her arm is as close to normal as it will get. She finally meet Jaydee(the guy from the music Video she didn't win, they had a great visit). She has done some modelling and acting. She was in a music video(out end of next month in Canada) and extra in a unnamed movie, couple of fashion shows and next week she is in studio doing Voiceovers (one of her best friends got the acting part but they don't like her voice so Courts doing the Voice part the girls think it is hilarious). But that's about all.

What and how is everyone else doing??????

Chris

Registered: 12-17-07

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onenicerose4u

Junior Member

Posted

I think i missed one. Mike did you say anything about reincarnation?
Maybe you can refresh me on that.
I am thinking you don't have a real belief in this.
By the way the show is great ever think of stunt double.

Registered: 06-14-09

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Posted

If I came face to face with a Bigfoot, I would bolt toward him with extreme prejudice, screaming loudly, doing my level best to tackle and throw him to the ground. I would then go about the process of attempting to remove the creatures head, secure in the knowledge that I was wrestling with a regular mortal man inside a Bigfoot Suit. Having removed his costume head, I would then insist on pictures, along with a signed admission and videotaped confession by the perpetrator of his intent to defraud the general populace of their time and/or money by advancing another weird fiction. Then, armed with such irrefutable evidence, I would corner my dear friend Simon, who still believes that crop circles were created by aliens, and show him yet another example of mans endless capacity for mendacity and fraud. It would be of course, a total waste of time, as Simon has built his entire belief structure around a world with ESP, alien abduction, haunted houses, astral projection, and reincarnation, and is now so hopelessly enamored of things that go bump in the night I fear there is no hope left for him.

Mike
Posted 09-02-06 12:27 PM

chris

it was way near the beginning

Registered: 12-17-07

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