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Hi Chris,

I think I have a special place in my heart for this particular old post of Mike's. It just seems to sum up his extremely practicle side.( I know Mike, you only have one side but I am at a loss for a more appropriate term. Don't scold...)

Mikey, sometimes I think you need to dream just a little more. Let that wonderfully vivid imagination of yours out for a good time. I mean what's the harm in communing with a Sasquatch or chatting up the odd alien. How about trying your hand at astral projection. That could be a lot of fun. Especially if done with someone you really like in mind and ....umm correctly.
Not that I would know of course, but one does hear things...

grasshopper
....the gentle rhythmic sway of the hammock....
 
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Chris,

I hope you don't mind,but I was reading some of Mike's old posts and found a couple of very interesting ones concerning our love of TV viewing and some caveats.
Thought others may find them interesting as well...

Posted 10-01-06 08:00 PM
Critiquing TV shows is all well and good. It’s also fun, and like most of you, I have my list of favorite programs. But when we critique commercial TV on it’s artistic merits, when we award 2 stars for this, or 4 stars for that, we do precisely what the networks, producers, and advertisers are counting on us to do – focus on the quality of the message, and cling to the mistaken belief that our favorite shows are being produced for the purpose of entertaining, informing, or enlightening us. In doing so, we forget the wisdom of McLuhan, who famously said back in the early sixties, “It’s not the message, it’s the medium.”

The real danger of television is not that it’s full of lousy shows, or funded by people who want to sell you soap and sneakers. The real danger lies in the fact that TV, even “good” TV, requires so little of us. Is this a bad thing? In terms of artistic review, I think it probably is. Good radio demands an imagination. Good books require focus and attention and deliberate purpose. Good paintings require an ability to see beyond the colors. But “good” TV requires nothing from us but consciousness. In general, you have to be suspicious of anything that passive.

We’ve all seen moments of artistry on television. But the level to which television programming is evaluated and critiqued and discussed in the context of “art” is really unbelievable. Entire magazines are dedicated to what’s on the TV, and endless reviews are written by countless critics discussing the “artistry” of this director or that performer. But what other art or entertainment form comes with such a myriad of blatant sponsors? I mean, what would an art critic say if The Mona Lisa had Yahoo! or “Microsoft” splashed next to DiVinci’s signature? How would a literary critic respond to a glossy insert from Toyota in the middle of Steven King’s next release? What would a theatrical critic say if someone walked onstage between acts of Death of a Salesman, and talked for a minute about the finger licking goodness of KFC? Or if Bernstein, while conducting West Side Story, wore a sign on his back that said Armani? The last time I went to see a movie – two weeks ago – the audience was booing, literally booing, at the commercials that were being aired before the film. They were outraged. Interesting. Like most hour-long shows, Dirty Jobs contains 44 minutes of programming, and 16 minutes of commercials. Sixteen minutes! Where’s the outrage?

In my opinion, the most important conversation to have regarding television is whether to own one or not. (I’m for it, by the way.) Then, if the decision is made to have a TV in the house, the next conversation should focus on the importance of critical viewing. We should not fast forward through commercials – we should watch them carefully, and talk about them with our kids. We should discuss the power of influence and advertising, we should be able to name the companies who pay for the programs we watch, and we should understand that they are directly attempting to persuade us to spend money on their product. We should draw a bright line between commerce and art, and be mindful of the way that line is deliberately blurred. Then, and only then, should we talk about the virtue of one program over another in terms of its “quality” or “entertainment value.”

To be clear, I’m not one of those people who feel guilty about making a living in a medium I secretly disdain – far from it. I’ve done many commercials in the past, and I’ll probably do some more. But if you doubt McLuhan's warning that "we become what we behold," consider the consuming desire of so many kids to be like R. Kelley, or P. Diddy, or Paris Hilton, or Britney Spears - a desire that has resulted in a culture of plastic surgery and glorified idolatry and drive-by shootings to steal a shirt or a pair of sneakers. Lewis Lapham talked about “a world of people who worship the objects of their own invention in the form of fax machines and high speed computers, and accept the blessings of Coca-Cola and dresses by Donna Karan as the mark of divinity.” He was right, I think. Art can move us, and advertising can influence us. But putting the two together the way commercial TV does is unexampled, and the fact that we watch anyway speaks dramatically to the power of the medium.

Nigel – that’s a long way of saying that, in my opinion, the people who watch television are 100% responsible for its content. Quality programs, like quality products, don’t succeed because of their quality. They succeed because they have an audience. And whether they know it or not, that audience – the consumer - holds all of the cards. We decide what stays on the tube, just as we decide what stays on our shelves or sits in our driveway.

In a free market, it is a mistake to confuse quality with popularity. So too in television. How else do we explain The Big Mac, The Pet Rock, The Leisure Suit, or shows about Psychics? To each his own.

Barnum was right, and so was Menken – “No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.” In the end though, for all the power of advertising, and all the seductive influence of the medium, we are still the arbiters of our own choices, and the buck stops with us.

In short, television programming could be a lot better, but given our complete freedom to choose, I’d say we have the exact TV we deserve.

Mike
(Here's the link to the thread)

Posted 05-12-07 03:12 AM
"It's refreshing when someone admits to the dance of inner and other selves peformed daily by many."

Thanks Gayle. Refreshing is something I aspire to.

There is nothing easier to do than to say what you know people want to hear, and behave in the manner expected of you. Doing so would certainly make my life easier. Celebrities, actors, performers, spokespeople...they all want you to believe them whenever they speak. It's their job. So we have become accustomed to hearing them plead for our approval and curry our favor and jump through hoops to win our trust. Maybe I should do more of that here. Doing otherwise only enrages publicists and baffles fans. Believe me, I know.

I have spoken candidly on this board for over two years, and caused more than a few dustups by sharing my views on the show, advertising, and television in general. I make no apologies for any of it. I can see where a few of my posts, taken out of context, might suggest a mixed message. But look closely, and I think you'll see that my basic points are consistent. I have maintained that I am no different than the guy on Dirty Jobs. I have also suggested that, as a rule, it is dangerous to believe anything you see on television or read on line.

Kathy, I do not believe these views are at all contradictory. A "real" person is a 'complete' person, and Dirty Jobs is not capable of showing anyone in their entirety, me included. You wrote, "If you are hinting that what you post and reveal on this board is not yourself, then are you misleading yourself or fooling us? Why would you have a problem posting something that reveals the real Mike to us?"

In truth Kathy, I have no problem revealing a very real part of my life to you. In fact, I have, through the show and this board. What makes me uncomfortable sometimes, is the fact that so many people take so much of what they see and hear on TV at face value. People actually believe that they can come to know a person through this medium in a "real" way.

I'm flattered that I can connect with so many people who I will never meet in person, but I prefer to be honest and cautionary at the same time. And so, I assure people on the one hand that I am telling the truth when I post here, but encourage them to be skeptical and careful about all they see and hear, including my own ramblings. Anyone who does otherwise is running for office or selling something.

Mike
...tread link

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...helping Chris...
 
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Someone here(beautifulgreeneyes-I believe) mentioned Mike doing a voice over about Hershey PA. and I got to wondering just how many times Mike has mentioned chocolate on the message board since...well since the beginning I guess.

Guess what I found...Go on...Guess....

I found that Mike has mentioned chocolate these seven times( there maybe more hidden away though...who can tell...) Anyway these are kinda fun and some harken back to a time that Mike apparently spent a great deal of time "chatting" here while availing himself of some adult beverages. Definitely FUN TIMES and a time I truly wish I had been around for....just imagine the interesting conversations we might have had.
Oh well, those days are apparently long gone but at least we still have Mike's words to reread and enjoy. (He really was quite the little rascal back then, wasn't he.)

Chocolate.You know what they say. Add Mikey and..well...

Posted 08-08-05 02:34 AM Hide Post
Fantastically foul? I am ferociously flattered.

I do apologize about the chocolate cake. There was a time when a chocolate/poo juxtaposition would have given me pause as well, but those days are behind me. Today, I'm sorry to say that I could happily consume a pound of fudge in a porta-potty. In fact, I have.

As for respect, shovelers of poo and other dubious solids deserve more than most, and I really do admire them greatly. In terms of precautions, nothing out of the ordinary - tetnus, Hep-A, Hep B, diphtheria, yellow fever, whooping cough, dengue fever, gamma globulin, typhus, and something for meningitis.

The cat-fish adventure ran last week. Look for it again next month, and for the next 10 years thereafter. Those guys really should have their own series.

Mike

Posted 12-09-06 02:34 AM Hide Post
Tikka,

I'm afraid Stef is wearing your spurs. Kathy is loading your gun. And ratface is tending bar. There's a new sheriff in town, and she appears to be hoarding the chocolate.

Mike
These are not metaphors. Please, read nothing into them.


I have included the original question along with Mike's response here....it was the right thing to do.

Posted 10-05-05 02:54 PM
Hey Mike,
My nephew and I watched your show last night and he wants to know if you were really afraid of the ostriches....he thinks you were and said you made a chocolate pie in your pants. (he's 4)


Posted 10-06-05 12:14 PM Hide Post
Your nephew is very astute.

Several things happened off camera that reinforced the danger of working around these animals. Not long before we arrived, a profesional ostrich "wrangler" was kicked unconscious by one of those creatures, and would have been disemboweled had his giant beltbuckle not deflected the birds sharp toes. This image was on my mind all day, and may well have contributed to the chocolate in question.

Mike

This one is fun...

Posted 07-27-07 12:34 AM Hide Post
1.What is your favorite soda pop?
Never cared for it.

2.What kind of soap do you use?
Lava

3.Favorite board game?
Battleship

4.Dream vacation spot?
I don't dream anymore

5.Favorite animal?
Turtle

6.Favorite color?
Burnt Umber

7.If you could be any animal what animal would you be?
A burnt umber tortoise.

8.Age in which you wish to retire?
31

9.Favorite desert/candy/sweets, what ever the heck you call it?
Two homemade Tollhouse Chocolate Chip Cookies, on either side of some homemade Rocky Road Ice Cream.

10.What's the most amount of baths/shower do you take in one day?(I don't know which one you do)
Two

11.So brings me to ask do you take showers or bathes?
Yes

12.What's your favorite word?
five

13.Favorite cartoon?
Tom and Jerry

14.Any bad habbits?(please don't chew your fingernails)
Oh yeah

15.What was the name of your first pet?
Shim. A great mutt. Couldn't tell if it was male or female.


And I'm sure many of us remember this one. I still feel bad that he was all alone...

Posted 03-29-08 11:21 PM Hide Post
[quote]So the shooting schedule has been thrown off kilter by the remnants of Shari's big @$$ snowfall, and you celebrated your birthday sitting in an airport/airplane.

There's a certain symmetry I guess, to being alone and snowbound on the anniversary of one's birth. Somehow, the president of the network, a stand-up fellow named John, managed to get a bottle of decent wine to my crappy hotel room. And my long-suffering girl arranged to get me a chocolate cake. So it could have been worse.

"Can you tell us a few snippets of what's in store for the next 24 hours? 2 weeks? How do you play catch up after something like that?"

Next few days are vo for Deadliest Catch, and writing for an upcoming DJ special. After that, I'm vanishing for a few days. Promised an old friend I'd attend her wedding, and a promise made is debt unpaid. After that, something dirty calls in Oklahoma. Then Maryland. Then New York.

"Did you ever get a birthday toast?"

Yes. More than a few, and I'm grateful for all. I also have some boxes on their way from some of you. I'll express my gratitude after I open them.

"Will the Cubbies win the opener against the Brewers?"
No.
Sorry.

Mike

And let's hope this is not repeated this year. This year DJ is going to beat out old whatshername...

Posted 09-17-08 11:29 AM
"Yes, he did look good I wonder what it feels like to be up for an award like an Emmy and to lose to Kathy Griffin."

I need a new tux Susie, but thanks anyway. As for losing to Ms. Griffin, I did not. A show about anonymous people doing real work lost to a show about a Hollywood personality being a Hollywood personality. Hardly headline news.

I don't begrudge Mike getting a 'goody bag' at the Emmy's.

Hi Becca(sue),
I was given a small box of Dove chocolate bars, which I gave to panhandler outside the theater. There was no Goodie bag.

"It's like they always say: "the rich get richer and the poor"--don't."

According to the figures, it's not like that at all. Every generation in this country produces more "new wealth" than the last. The "rich" don't always prosper, and the "poor" do not always stay poor. That expression, in my opinion, is the very definition of fatalism. Often, through hard work and patience, (and some luck,) they rise to middle class and beyond. Many on Dirty Jobs fit that description. (Not all, but many.) And yesterday, it's interesting to note that 700 billion dollars in "wealth" went up in smoke. That event did not make the poor any poorer.

Mike

And last but certainly far from least( with a visual that will remain somewhat disturbing...)

Posted 10-25-08 02:00 PM Hide Post
"quote:
I just want to thank you Mike and Dirty Jobs for making us all a little uncomfortable, I am sorry that in order to do so you had to shove a pair of sheep nards in your mouth but hey, we all need to take one for the team every now and again."


Jenni,

Ha! You are very welcome, and I appreciate your turn of phrase immensely.

My personal "discomfort" is an important element of Dirty Jobs, and a huge part of being a "fish out of water." Sharing that discomfort with you - making you feel it with me - is no less important than sharing a laugh, an insight, or any other genuine revelation bourn out by the circumstances surrounding me. The greatest strength of Dirty Jobs is the fact that we can air a segment about making chocolate with a sweet little old lady, and then, bite the testicles off a baby lamb. That range is incredible, but demands an audience with an unusually open-mind, and what I'll call an unorthodox sense of humor. It's a challenge, and a paradox, and a great frustration to some, but I don't want to do a show that appeals to everyone, all of the time. And I would be selfish, to not share my discomfort once in a while, n'est pas?

Mike


I hope you enjoyed this brief look back at some of Mike's wonderful musings. I'm hoping he'll get a whiff of the chocolate and come running...

Chocolate....Mike....Chocolate...

grasshopper
..helping Chris and ...
 
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No I don't mind you adding to this....Sorry I haven't been around much my computer crashed and I now have to borrow my oldest daughters laptop to get on line. I'm hoping to get a new computer in a few months we are saving for a real good one this time


chris

mmmmmmmmmm chocolate mmmmmmmmmm Smile
 
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Hey Chris,

Long time...No converse!

Sorry about your computer. Hope the family is doing well. As you can see we're still here(well most of us anyway).
Mike has not been around too much but I guess he gets here as much as he can.
Be waiting for you to be a regular again soon.

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