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Anyone see the show 'Please Buy My House'?

Three home owners explored their own unique method of marketing while struggling to sell their pricey homes in ..ahem... 'depressed markets'. Oddly enough, only one tried some modest staging and a (one room) paint job.

Then I saw tonights episode of Ginger's first solo project and I could not help but wonder what markets Trademark will try to break into first since almost everything seems to be 'depressed' these days.

Florida and Georgia seem likely; Both are big states and kinda close to the home office. On the other hand, Richard seems to like a good challenge.

Any bets on Stockton CA??
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Forbes has released yet another "Best Places" survey. It should be interesting to compare Richard's choice of start up markets (when they are finally announced) to the Forbes lists.

First is the Forbes list of "America's Most Miserable Cities" [their title, not mine!] Detroit, MI and Stockton, CA top the list.

Followed by the list of "Best Cities For Jobs In 2008".

Next comes "America's Fastest-Growing Metros".

And finally, the always popular "America's Fastest-Growing Large And Small Metros".

For me there were more than a few surprises here.
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Richard's First 10 US Events [Thanks Veritas1!!]

Atlanta, GA
Austin, TX
Dallas, TX
Houston, TX
Denver, CO
Charlotte, NC
Chicago, IL
Fort Myers, FL
Jacksonville, FL
Seattle, WA

Six come from the list of "Fastest Growing Metros", two come from the list of "Most Miserable Cities" and four cross-over from the list of the "Best Cities for Jobs".

California Markets are noticeably absent.

If it turns out that these are the much anticipated launch of the area partnerships- congratulations to one and all!!
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Thanks for the links Echo. It's always nice hear a friendly voice, especially one with something useful to share!

Ever read Clustered World by Michael Weiss?
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A new list of Forbes Best Places for Business and Careers has been released. In addition to ranking major metros for the best overall market conditions, they also offer a list of the best smaller metros. In Forbes fashion, the article also provides lists for the 'Worst' markets.

Factors used in the Rankings:
- Business Costs
- Living Costs
- Education
- Crime Rates
- Job Growth
- Income Growth

A sidebar article includes a list of the Best Places to Buy Foreclosed Homes.

There's also a link to an older article on the Hardest Hit Foreclosure Spots from January of 2008.
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from the Wall Street Journal:

The ability of America's lenders to manage this fire sale will be crucial to determining how long the housing market stays in the dumps -- and how quickly blighted neighborhoods can heal. The oversupply is severe: In some major markets, including Las Vegas and San Diego, foreclosure-related sales have accounted for more than 40% of all sales in recent months.


WSJ- Page A1 : -March 25, 2008


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Of Markets and Mortgages By ETHAN PENNER:

Like many, I've wondered how our home mortgage finance system will rebuild itself, and how we will be able to contain problems in the financial system so they don't infect corporate America, lower profits, and lead to massive layoffs. The answer to these questions became much clearer to me on a recent Sunday when I drove to downtown Los Angeles and joined approximately 2,000 others in the Convention Center. They had come to participate in an open auction of 120 foreclosed homes from Los Angeles, Orange and San Diego counties. What I saw there reinforced to me that the only resolution to the crisis is to let the free market repair itself.

(snip)

Auctions such as the one I observed allow true prices to be discovered and honest valuations for lender portfolios.



WSJ - Page A23 : -March 25, 2008
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Welcome to the Foreclosure Bus Tour...


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By ADRIAN SAINZ AP Business Writer:
...a six-hour expedition to show Orlando-area homes and educate potential buyers on the vagaries of snatching foreclosures in a state where the housing market has struggled over the past two years. Real estate agents have also organized tours in California, where the idea seems to have originated, and cities such as Phoenix, Detroit, Kansas City and Jacksonville.

The Orlando prospects included working-class people looking for a family home, speculators seeking a bargain investment and even a Brit trying to take advantage of the weak dollar. To avoid embarrassing owners, the bus stops only at empty homes.

...Full Text...
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Florida luxury home market shows signs of wear


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Sun Apr 20, 2008 :: By Jim Loney:

Auctioneers sold "north of 20" of the 50-plus properties on sale at the Fort Lauderdale auction, said SKY Sotheby's president, Chad Roffers. The event offered up an estimated $300 million in properties ranging from a $2.45 million, one-bedroom on ritzy Fisher Island, to mansions in the $15 million range.

"The high end is resilient," Roffers said. "Certainly the market has corrected since the peak of 2005. What we are seeing is that quality waterfront inventory is holding value."

But many properties were quickly pulled from the auction when no one bid. And bargain hunters had an open field.

One man, in short order, snapped up two bayfront houses in Miami Beach's pricey Venetian Islands, one for $500,000 and the other for $1 million. The homes sold for $2.75 million and $2 million respectively in mid-2005, according to county records.

Guido Teichner, a would-be buyer who said he attended the auction looking to make a killing, put in a $500,000 bid on a two-story, 4,000 square foot (370 square meter) penthouse condo in downtown Fort Lauderdale that had previously been listed at $3 million.




...Full Text...
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Team Trademark in the News...

Reality TV show personality Richard C. Davis of Trademark Properties, a friend and supporter of the chief, said Thomas' retirement won't diminish his standing in the community. In fact, Davis plans to offer Thomas a job.

"He is a community leader," Davis said. "No matter what his title is, he is still Rusty Thomas and a vital part of this community. And he always will be."



....and in other news....

Real estate listings settling into Web

quote:
by Bob Tedeschi, New York Times; Sunday, May 18, 2008:

As if home buyers do not have it good enough already, finding a house for sale on the Web is becoming easier.

The triple threat of a weak market, legal pressure and increasing competition has compelled real estate professionals to offer their information more freely online, putting cracks in a walled garden of data that stood strong while the industry enjoyed its breakaway growth. It also presages an end to the days when sellers must list their homes with a broker so buyers can see them.


...Full Text...



Realtors Envision the Future of Real Estate in Real Time


quote:
from FoxBusiness.com, Friday, May 16, 2008;

RETS, an industry effort initiated by NAR and maintained by RESO, is an open data standard for exchanging real estate transaction information between authorized parties. RESO currently supports a RETS listing standard and a syndication standard; while the two share a common XML-based data layout, they are different.

...Full Text...




Market analysis, Texas-style

quote:
by Mary Umberger; Chicago Tribune; May 18, 2008:

Internet-search gurus said they're under the gun to put more real estate data into more hands, the sooner the better.

That means, besides listings of properties for sale, consumers have an insatiable appetite for data on neighborhoods, schools, crime and anything else that might affect their buying decisions, according to a panel of thinkers representing Realtor.com, Google and Zillow.com.


...Full Text...

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Pizza, Pizza? Anyone, Anyone?

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From the Los Angeles Times Blogs (6/1/2008):

In Escondido (CA): Buy one (house), get one free.

In a sign of how difficult it is to sell new homes in Southern California right now, a San Diego developer is offering a "buy one, get one free" deal, pairing million-dollar homes with less expensive homes.

"We thought, 'Why does it just have to be on Pop Tarts and restaurants? Why not buy one home, get one free,'" Dawn Berry of Michael Crews Development...



A Bubble Market Inventory Tracking blog is also available for those who prefer to live (and die!) by the numbers.
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The Bare Essentials of Marketing Property in a Slow Market:

:: Video ::
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Texas Real Estate Slump Lets Mexicans Take It Back

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By Thomas Black, Bloomberg.com:



A "Texas for Sale" sign and cowgirls in boots and white hats greeted (Virgilio) Garza at the Convex center in Monterrey, Mexico, earlier this month. A Monterrey developer and investor, Garza was in search of foreclosed U.S. property to buy.

"Texas is like our home" said Garza, 45, who joined hundreds of Mexican (national)s poring over lists of Texas properties at the four-day event. Garza, who owns manufacturing sites and other land in Mexico, said he and five partners may invest as much as $8 million in Texas. "We believe there can be some opportunities."


- Bloomberg.com (6/25/2008)

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quote:


Pop Quiz:


I wonder what Richard would say about a market where the Parody has almost become the actual headline?

Very :: Interesting



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Top U.S. Housing Markets For Investment


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Forbes on Real Estate by Matt Woolsey 07.10.08:

Encouraged by a weak dollar and a belief in the resiliency of the U.S. economy, individuals like Reddy, along with institutional investors such as pension funds and private equity groups, are seeking investment properties and development opportunities in the United States.

Their markets of choice include New York City, Los Angeles, Washington, D.C., Seattle and San Francisco.



More from Forbes....

Increasingly Affordable U.S. Real Estate Markets

Smart Ways to Profit From Foreclosures
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Texas says...

What recession?
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Las Vegas Says...

This Recession!
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quote:
Donald Trump says:

дело сделано.



The Deal is Done.
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I can't remember, but was Rusty Thomas the Charleston FD chief?

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Team Trademark in the News...

Reality TV show personality Richard C. Davis of Trademark Properties, a friend and supporter of the chief, said Thomas' retirement won't diminish his standing in the community. In fact, Davis plans to offer Thomas a job.

"He is a community leader," Davis said. "No matter what his title is, he is still Rusty Thomas and a vital part of this community. And he always will be."



....and in other news....

Real estate listings settling into Web

quote:
by Bob Tedeschi, New York Times; Sunday, May 18, 2008:

As if home buyers do not have it good enough already, finding a house for sale on the Web is becoming easier.

The triple threat of a weak market, legal pressure and increasing competition has compelled real estate professionals to offer their information more freely online, putting cracks in a walled garden of data that stood strong while the industry enjoyed its breakaway growth. It also presages an end to the days when sellers must list their homes with a broker so buyers can see them.


...Full Text...



Realtors Envision the Future of Real Estate in Real Time


quote:
from FoxBusiness.com, Friday, May 16, 2008;

RETS, an industry effort initiated by NAR and maintained by RESO, is an open data standard for exchanging real estate transaction information between authorized parties. RESO currently supports a RETS listing standard and a syndication standard; while the two share a common XML-based data layout, they are different.

...Full Text...




Market analysis, Texas-style

quote:
by Mary Umberger; Chicago Tribune; May 18, 2008:

Internet-search gurus said they're under the gun to put more real estate data into more hands, the sooner the better.

That means, besides listings of properties for sale, consumers have an insatiable appetite for data on neighborhoods, schools, crime and anything else that might affect their buying decisions, according to a panel of thinkers representing Realtor.com, Google and Zillow.com.


...Full Text...

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America's Fastest-Dying Cities

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by Joshua Zumbrun (08.05.08) Forbes.com:

Where's it worst? Ohio, according to our analysis, which racked up four of the 10 cities on our list: Youngstown, Canton, Dayton and Cleveland. The runner-up is Michigan, with two cities--Detroit and Flint--making the ranking
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Would you like fries with that house?

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by Ron French (Wednesday, August 13, 2008) The Detroit News:

Foreclosure fallout: Houses go for a $1

The fact that a home on the city's east side was listed for $1 recently shows how depressed the real estate market has become in one of America's poorest big cities.

And it still took 19 days to find a buyer.



Zillow Details
Zillow Comps
More about Modern Motown
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Looks like Ginger will find plenty of adventure in California.

quote:
Loving your house again...
By Chris Ayres LA Times.com Op-Ed from August 17, 2008:

...yeah, I have regrets. Like wishing I'd borrowed more money and bought a bigger house.



As if we needed more Proof that the newspaper business is out of touch and nearly extinct.

Spending $70K+ out of pocket to save $20K in income tax liability is the very definition of "Negative cash flow". Sure you have a place to live, but you're probably spending more *real dollars* than renters in your neighborhood- and maybe ALOT MORE! And in addition to paying that 6k p/month upside down mortgage, you also pay
:: Assn Fees
:: property taxes
:: insurance
:: maintenance

And, unless you improve the property substantially, this home will always be a liability.


FACT CHECK - the stock market performed as follows:

In 2004, the S&P 500 was around 1000. It's now about 1300
QQQQ was about $35 then and is now about $48.
DJIA about 8000 now about 12000.

Good thing for the author that there is plenty of job security in the
newspaper business
.


Got More whip cream for the onion?
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Online Real Estate's Dirty Little Secret

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by Brian Boero (8.11.2008) www.1000wattblog.com:

Why are (national web) sites with something less than what consumers really want ... kicking your butt?



- Real Estate Web 2.0
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Richard says, you don't get rich in real estate without being a pioneer. It sure would be nice to know what he's thinking about these days. If anyone needed a working list of contratrian indicators from the main stream media, here 'tis.

quote:


:: Northern California

:: Southern California

:: New Jersey

:: College Towns Across America

:: Chicago

:: Sedona, AZ

:: Hot Springs, Arkansas (Really?)
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The Paper Economy
: This Chart is High and to the Right!
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Here's a 4 Star YouTube Video that "splains" "What Caused Our Economic Crisis".

quote:
:
I reluctantly share the link as the video is politically one sided ignoring the more bone headed maneuvers of Republicans who clearly contributed to the mortgage meltdown. Still, if you're trying to sort out where the whip cream ends and the onion begins for the foreclosure crisis, The MouthPeace presents a very reasonable case.
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Congratulations my fellow taxpayers, we will soon be the proud owners of the most toxic debt in the history of mankind.

At least we'll get tax relief for all those wooden Little Arrows every American household must buy just to survive.

Can't wait to see if Richard can make lemonade out of this news.
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Here's another fun game to play...

quote:
Check Out (or into!) the Bad Credit Hotel today:

....Shine a light on the murkier areas of...credit know-how.



http://www.controlyourcredit.gov/
US Dept. of Treasury
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Two Headlines: Same Story

Yellow Pages...on the Brink


Google Kills Lively


I'm not a Realtor. But I am a thinker. Two stories today caught my eye and I was stuck by the fact that each one demonstrates an almost identical "secret of success". Yellow Page advertising has traditionally been a "must have". But the internet has unlocked this data and made it more useful with new and powerful ways to search. Internet based business directories are also more valuable because the information can be updated in real time and linked to other important tools- like maps or detailed product offerings, even coupons. The Google story shows how even the best and brightest innovators in an industry can fail when they ignore the genuine needs of their customers.

No matter how experienced you are or how closely you follow the market, if you are not able to innovate and adapt to changes in the marketplace and see how they affect the particular needs of your clients, your business is certainly dead in the water.

I've tried to use this thread to highlight changes in the marketplace. My ever-present theme has been that technology is revolutionizing the way homes are bought and sold. Brokers who lock up their information and Realtors who can't work with a more informed buyer will quickly find they are gaining an increasing share of a declining market.

I can't predict what's next for Richard, Ginger and Team Trademark, but with the lawsuit out of the way, it's sure bet it will NOT be business as usual.

...
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So a Connecticut lawmaker wants bailout money for his local newspaper. As if bailing out the crooked Wall St bankers and the auto industry wasn't enough, we get another bailout proposal for a dying, mostly useless business.

Now that's the "real deal" if you're looking for some serious Whip Cream on the Onion.

The moron in question is Frank Nicastro. The Reuters newsfeed doesn't bother to identify his poltical party but I suppose there was ever any doubt about it anyway.
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The Lost Housing Generation.

"The U.S. is experiencing a 40-year generational peak in consumer spending, one that will lead to “the first and last Depression of our lifetimes,” author Harry Dent predicts in his book “The Great Depression Ahead” (Free Press, 2008).

Although we may not be headed for a 1930s-style Depression, there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that boomers are dumping their four- and five-bedroom suburban homes for two- and three- bedroom condominiums. "
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quote:
Mike Folkerth - King of Simple - Western Colorado’s own Humorist/Economist:
Is it time to buy real estate.

"Home prices have now been driven well below replacement cost by market forces. The price of homes today has nothing to do with replacement costs and all to do with a dandy recession of enduring quality. [...] This phase will last right up until the inventory of financially distressed homes is depleted. Remember, that there is near zero building occurring at the present time. At the point when it becomes necessary to build a new home, the price must return to the actual development and building costs."
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Just Asking...

Is Shack the new Chic?
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Shadow Inventory in California
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The amount of inventory being kept off the public view is simply enormous.

...full text...




What's hiding from your local MLS?
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More Lemons: Anyone?
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As bad as the housing market in the US may seem, obviously things could be worse.

In an effort to assist, I'd like to invite fans of Richard, Ginger and Team Trademark to print as many posts from mBrown and IPpro as you can and mail them to The Cuban Embassy. They seem to be in urgent need of toilet paper down there.
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Originally posted by jenraleeamiable:
As bad as the housing market in the US may seem, obviously things could be worse.

In an effort to assist, I'd like to invite fans of Richard, Ginger and Team Trademark to print as many posts from mBrown and IPpro as you can and mail them to The Cuban Embassy. They seem to be in urgent need of toilet paper down there.


Amen!!!!

I just do not get their point and purpose.

:-)

L.
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Oh Jen, you have such a wicked sense of humor!
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Wicked...

[Wide Grin] Well, that's one word for it.


:: Love Notes and Hate Mail to ::

jenraleeamiable@gmail.com

How bad can it be?
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quote:
from today's GMA on ABC:

"For people who are financially qualified, it never has been a better time in nearly 40 years," said Lawrence Yun, of the National Association of Realtors. "I think this is good long-term investment opportunity to get into the market now."



The report featured a couple to Top 10 City Lists created by Zillow.com.


Forbes also covers the story.

...yet some banks may still be at risk.

but my favorite of the day is...

Moolah For McMansions.
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from doctorhousingbubble dot com:

This is the kind of insanity that is going to implode the mid to upper priced market. Keep in mind, this home isn’t listed on the MLS and is part of that hidden inventory. Seriously, from $655,000 to over a million in loans on a 2 bedrooms 2 bath home (initially) in Pasadena.




..Full Text...
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Rick Sharga, the vice president of the Irvine, Calif., firm RealtyTrac:

"...there aren't any loan modification programs for someone who does not have income."




...Full Text...
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Apparently, there also aren't many loan modifications for Commercial {real estate} loans, even when the business has "more than enough" cash-flow to re-pay the debt.

Commercial Real Estate Lurks as Next Potential Mortgage Crisis

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By LINGLING WEI and PETER GRANT:


"... In a study for The Wall Street Journal, Realpoint found that 281 CMBS loans valued at $6.3 billion weren't able to refinance when they matured in the past three month, even though 173 such loans worth $5.1 billion were throwing off more than enough cash to service their debt."




Source: Wall Street Journal 8/31/2009
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NYDailyNews.com presents:

The World's Craziest Homes

Including a Lego House you can live in, a Honduran "dream home" made from a bus and few other oddities sure to make you chuckle like:

- This House is FLIPPED

- A home for someone who actually wanted to live under a rock

- The most useful purpose for newspapers to come along since AlGore invented the internet

Enjoy!
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From the Not So Fast Department of Treasury...

No Job: No Problem

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Rick Sharga, the vice president of the Irvine, Calif., firm RealtyTrac:

"...there aren't any loan modification programs for someone who does not have income."



...Sorry Rick...
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