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After reading so many of the opinions on these topics, i started wondering what good are we doing to our daughters? Confused
I'm a SAHM, who has no problem with a WOHM. Some of you SAHM make it sound like the minute WOHM give birth to their child, they abandon their child the day after delivery at home alone. Then there are some of you WOHM who make it sound like SAHM are uneducated lazy women.
I honestly think that this fighting is sending all of these mixed and confussing messages to our next generation.
This is what it sounds like:
1) Go to college and be successful, but you can never become a mother and enjoy children. And if you do have children you will be known as selfish. Eek
2) If you want to be a mom, you have to live uneducated and live your life bare foot and pregnant in the kitchen your whole life. And if you even think of getting an education and doing something you would like then you will be selfish. Eek

Sounds all kind of childish doesn't it.
Why have to turn every aspect of other peoples lives into some political debate. We get enough of that in the news. There is nothing wrong with a woman who wants both sides of life. There is also nothing wrong with a woman who wants to be a soccer mom. SAHM and WOHM are all great women. They all have something to give not just to thier families but to their community. Why fight? Why think that anyone who lives thier life different then you is bad.
That is not a message to sending to not only our daughters but to our children.
 
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I agree with you. I don't see anything wrong with working moms, tho I'm a stay at home mom myself. I prefer it. I will work once my kids are in school and we don't have to pay child care, but I really enjoy being home with my kids. I am lucky tho, my husband is military and we can fourtunatley afford for me to stay at home, I feel horrible for those people who don't have everything quite figured out yet and HAVE to leave their children to go back to work a month later. Don't judge them for what they do, it's not your place.
 
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I must say that I am appalled after reading many of the posts here. I had no idea that there is so much hostility between SAHM and WOHM. I am a mom to 2 wonderful (and well adjusted) dd, ages 6 & 4. I do work outside the home as a Lot Acquisition Mgr for a home builder. I have always worked full-time since graduating from college. Staying home after each of the girls was born was never really an option. The daycare that the girls attend (our oldest attends the before/ after school program) is top notch. Both of the girls could speak spanish at two. Not to mention that our 4 yo is now able to read/ write Kindergarten level site words and our 1st grader is reading on a 3rd grade level. Our children are loved and loving. In addition, the center is full of loving teachers who really do care about our kids. I couldn't ask for a better group of people to help care for our children. And let me say, yes, there is a part of me who would love to stay home; however, it's not an option so it's not something I really focus on. We do have a woman who cleans the house one day a week. My husband and I do everything else - just like everyone else out there. I am very lucky to have a husband who helps out around the house. While I'm focusing on homework with the girls, he's cooking dinner (no, not hamburger helper). He does a majority of the laundry while I'm doing other household things. Oh, and I am involved with the elementary school PTO - I'm on the board this year. I love helping out at school. I am able to work on projects at night after the girls go to bed or on the weekends. My daughter feels great knowing that I may not be at school but I am helping in my own way. In doing all of this, I've never once thought that SAHM or WOHM were better or worse than each other. I just look at it as everyone has choices or situations in their lives that dictate how they live. I have friends who are SAHMs and I think each group has plusses and minusses. I can't imagine judging either group simply because not everyone agrees with the way I live my life. I guess I feel a little better getting all of this off of my chest. Thanks for "listening". Wink
 
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I have been on both sides of the fence.
First of all I believe you should not judge because you don't know what you will have to face in life down the road. When I stayed at home with my girls I found that there were a lot of depressed, disgruntled SAHM. Why I do not know because my thought was always this is what you decided to do be Happy. Yes I did count it a blessing to be at home with my girls and now that I am working it's a little more challenging balancing but it is nice as well. I feel we as women should support each other and not be so harsh to one another. It is already hard being a woman do we need to tear each other down? Truthfully there were alot of Working mothers that had it together and there children were very balanced. Just because you stay at home does not mean your children will be better. That does not make a child better. What makes a child turn out to be a productive person in society is the quality time and the relationship you have with that child. I heard someone say," Rules without Relationships breed Rebellion" There are alot of children whose mothers stay at home who are uncontrollable and just plain hellish. I agree that each has it's pluses and minuses but we must support one another and not be so quick to judge because the Bible does say, "Do not judge for fear you will be judge by the same thing"
 
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Momof2divas - Just making certain we are on the same page... I wasn't judging anyone. I stated that there were plusses and minusses to both and could not imagine judging either side.

PS - I also agree with the "rules w/out relationships breed rebellion" concept.
 
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Originally posted by JumpmastersWifey137:
I am lucky tho, my husband is military and we can fourtunatley afford for me to stay at home, I feel horrible for those people who don't have everything quite figured out yet and HAVE to leave their children to go back to work a month later. Don't judge them for what they do, it's not your place.


Hi Jumpmasters Smile

I haven't heard any contempt from at-home-moms towards working women that have no alternative but to return to work after giving birth.

It sounds like the grub from these women is with a woman who CHOOSES to work after she's given birth to her first child. That somehow, a mother with career ambition has lost sight of what's really important if she can't devote 100% of her waking hours to her children.

Stay-at-home-moms: correct me if I'm wrong here. I think this is what some of you are saying..

I am also concerned about the message being sent to the young women of our next generation. My 13 yo niece believes she wants to be a vet, and she's very athletic.

Her *grandmother* told her just last week that she needs to put these animal and sport "hobbies" away and start wearing more dresses or no man would marry here.

That is... unnacceptable. I, for one, hope that she will secure her future first so that she can marry someday if she chooses to without fear of what will happen to her or her family in a tragedy, or even if she someday chooses to leave. And this discussion board has only firmed up my decision.

Admitedly, I'm a computer programmer who finds great fulfillment in my career *and* in my family. You can filter my comments in this light. My husband never approached me about making a decision to pick one. Why? He doesn't want to do this either. Instead, he cooks and I clean the kitchen. He does laundry and I wash our cars. We moved to a new state last year for my career. Some here may say that I should feel guilty about not wanting to quit my job after the birth of our son, since we are more than financially able to do so.

Why? Quitting my job doesn't make any practical sense: 1) we will have wasted all this time and sacrifice for a career I was just going to walk out on, 2) we're raising our 1 just fine, 3) in my field it will be harder to keep my skills up without continuous employment since the industry changes so quickly and 4) I don't want to quit. I honestly don't even know if I could - if I stayed at home I probably would still be coding in my idle hours (I'm sure there would be a lot of these), submitting to open-source projects or something.

What I *don't* think is sending the wrong message to our daughters is sitting down to think about a debate as impactful to our lives as this one and sorting it out in our own minds. Even if we disagree - lots of people disagree on how to raise their children.

Even, having the courage to judge/condemn a side *if* it's our own honest conclusion.

Even if we disagree. Many people will disagree on how to raise their children. It shouldn't stop us from instilling our own moral values to the next generation.

This topic will have a significant impact on the lives of our daughters. And clearly, there are some of us in two, probably three, very different camps on the subject: to work, not to work, or to each his own (my cheesy Shakespeare reference). Seems to me to be a very worthy item to discuss.

My two cents - apologies for the book - thanks Smile
 
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Originally posted by JumpmastersWifey137:
I am lucky tho, my husband is military and we can fourtunatley afford for me to stay at home, I feel horrible for those people who don't have everything quite figured out yet and HAVE to leave their children to go back to work a month later. Don't judge them for what they do, it's not your place.


Hi Jumpmasters Smile

I haven't heard any contempt from at-home-moms towards working women that have no alternative but to return to work after giving birth.

It sounds like the grub from these women is with a woman who CHOOSES to work after she's given birth to her first child. That somehow, a mother with career ambition has lost sight of what's really important if she can't devote 100% of her waking hours to her children.

Stay-at-home-moms: correct me if I'm wrong here. I think this is what some of you are saying..

I am also concerned about the message being sent to the young women of our next generation. My 13 yo niece believes she wants to be a vet, and she's very athletic.

Her *grandmother* told her just last week that she needs to put these animal and sport "hobbies" away and start wearing more dresses or no man would marry here.

That is... unnacceptable. I, for one, hope that she will secure her future first so that she can marry someday if she chooses to without fear of what will happen to her or her family in a tragedy, or even if she someday chooses to leave. And this discussion board has only firmed up my decision.

Admitedly, I'm a computer programmer who finds great fulfillment in my career *and* in my family. You can filter my comments in this light. My husband never approached me about making a decision to pick one. Why? He doesn't want to do this either. Instead, he cooks and I clean the kitchen. He does laundry and I wash our cars. We moved to a new state last year for my career. Some here may say that I should feel guilty about not wanting to quit my job after the birth of our son, since we are more than financially able to do so.

Why? Quitting my job doesn't make any practical sense: 1) we will have wasted all this time and sacrifice for a career I was just going to walk out on, 2) we're raising our 1 just fine, 3) in my field it will be harder to keep my skills up without continuous employment since the industry changes so quickly and 4) I don't want to quit. I honestly don't even know if I could - if I stayed at home I probably would still be coding in my idle hours (I'm sure there would be a lot of these), submitting to open-source projects or something.

What I *don't* think is sending the wrong message to our daughters is sitting down to think about a debate as impactful to our lives as this one and sorting it out in our own minds. Even if we disagree - lots of people disagree on how to raise their children.

Even, having the courage to judge/condemn a side *if* it's our own honest conclusion.

Even if we disagree. Many people will disagree on how to raise their children. It shouldn't stop us from instilling our own moral values to the next generation.

This topic will have a significant impact on the lives of our daughters. And clearly, there are some of us in two, probably three, very different camps on the subject: to work, not to work, or to each his own (my cheesy Shakespeare reference). Seems to me to be a very worthy item to discuss.

My two cents - apologies for the book - thanks Smile


you basically stated what i was attempting to get accross. Makes me feel not so alone on feeling the way i do about this. I myself have let my daughter know that it is OK to be successful and be a mom. My daughter also would love to become a vet, and a famous barrel racer. And not only do i thrive to see her succeed but so does my husband and my parents. She sees how hard i work at home and how hard i help keep my families ranch running. She can see that it can be done, even if you have kids. I am so lucky that i have parents that can help me with wanting both of my kids to be successful in a career and in parenting. now my mother in law on the other hand, she believes that a sahm is the most laziest and worst person in the world. Needless to say, we can't stand eachother...lol But thats a whole different topic.
 
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