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Registered: 03-02-08
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Is Big Will the son of Youssy & Vialli?

If so who were Big Will's litter mates?

What were the names of the 2 pups that he had with Pancake of the Lazuli?
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Registered: 12-08-07
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Big Will is the son of Zaphod and Vialli (Flower's sister), I believe. Big Will's litter was large, including the original Daisy. The two Lazuli pups that were possibly fathered by Youssie were Gin and Tonic.
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Registered: 09-28-07
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Gin and Tonic are really cute! See if you think they look like Youssy:

http://www.pangolin.li/travel-pics/meerkats07/P1100530 -- Gin grooming Lazuli DF Aretha

http://www.pangolin.li/travel-pics/meerkats07/P1100533 -- Tonic - Remind you of anyone?
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Registered: 10-02-07
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Thank you kach5503!

Those are so fabulous. Just made my heart melt! Gin looks so sweet! Tonic is just a 'little Youssarian', if Youssarian is not his dad, it had to be his twin!


Thank you for sharing.
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Registered: 09-28-07
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Yes, I fell in love with Tonic at first sight. Such a charmer with his intelligent gaze and crossed paws. That's the only picture I have ever seen of Gin -- Woo Hoo! They are all soooo cute.
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Registered: 02-04-07
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On 11-22-2001 Vialli gave birth to a litter of 7 pups: Big Will, Itchy, Scratchy, Thelma, Louise, Daisy, and Tarzan.
I'm not sure who the father was, as the group of Vivian rovers were still trying to establish dominance.
Note: That Daisy is the original one, not Super Furry Animal who played "Daisy" on MM.
( I got all this info from TCB's book)
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Registered: 10-03-06
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Pancake was an AP creation as one of Uncle Youssy's love interests to, I believe, represent our man as one of the great Kalahari rovers and introduce the probabiliy of Youssy's pups in the Lazuli.

I believe she was only a number in the Lazuli, but did she and Youssy make beautiful pups together. I don't know for sure. Maybe someone else can update.

Youssy "visited" many Lazuli ladies during his roving days as did many rovers.

But Gin "N" Tonic, Cazanna's pups must be his for sure. Just look at them. Tonic is a walking Youssy! Until DNA tests tell me otherwise, my heart tells me what to believe.

I believe this specific "pup" litter was Vialli's ( Flower's sister) by Zaphod.

The litter was not only Flower's nieces & nephews, but her step daughters & sons. Ah life in the Kalahari! Smile
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Registered: 02-04-07
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Pancake was real, not just a MM creation. But like you say, Cazanna is the mother of Gin and Tonic. Youssy is believed to be the father, and in my heart that's what I believe Smile
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Registered: 03-02-08
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Thank you all for the help!!!
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Registered: 10-03-06
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Thanks SG I was just remembering a post once upon a time.
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Registered: 12-24-07
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I have never heard of Gin and Tonic, how old are they? and, what groups are they in if not passed away?
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Registered: 10-03-06
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They are believed to be the sons of Yousarrian & Cazanna Lazuli, but in MM as SG said they were portrayed as the pups of Pancake & Yousarrian. If I am guessing correctly they would have been born sometime in late'05.

She was an evicted Lazuli female who met Youssy on a roving trip, or so the MM story goes.

After their night together Youssy disappeared into the Kalahari & Pancake was allowed to return to the Lazuli to have her pups as the Lazuli mob members were low & pups were a priority.
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Registered: 09-28-07
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On the LH reports Gin and Tonic's B'Day is listed as 12/21/05. On the December 2007 report they both were listed as Last Seen and in the March 2008 Name List they are not listed on it anywhere.

I haven't heard anyone say what has happened to either of them.
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Registered: 12-08-07
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Evi said on the March 2008 History Report thread (Spoiler Board), that Gin (after he was last seen in Sept 2007) reappeared near the Zappa territory.
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