There was recently a show on the 408 cheytac. Bill Richie from EDMARMS manufactures the windrunner in 408 and This rifle is without any doubt the best sniper rifle ever designed. Check out www.edmarms.com to see a real rifle. Barrett copied the 408 with their 416 because the 408 has been kicking the 50bmg's butt for years now. This rifle has everything
Sorry to tell you that you're wrong but... Barrett made the .416 because of the .50 BMG ban in Kalifornia, they didn't copy anything from EDM ARMS.
For the record, the .416 Barrett is based on a wildcatted .50 BMG case. The original .408CT was based off the .505 Gibbs case.
Most .50 BMG rifle manufacturers have went with the 50 DTC to get around Kali's .50 BMG ban. The 50 DTC uses all the same components as a regular .50 BMG round but the case is shortened 1/10th of an inch. When fireformed it also changes the shoulder angle and takes some of the taper out of the case.
Why Barrett went with their own design is unknown, other then to be a money maker for them as you'll have to buy everything from them.
I think the 416 Barrett has more to do with Ronnie being a car salesman cashing in on magnumitus and the "bigger, badder, faster" desires that some enthusiasts have. It's the reason behind the success of things like the Desert Eagle 50AE and the S&W 500Mag in my opinion.
Plus Ronnie figured out that if he had a proprietary round he could have the exclusive rights to replacing those barrels that will shoot out at an incredible rate.
God only knows that had Ronnie made one in 510DTC he wouldn't have as exlusive a corner on the market, people could more easily make their own 510DTC ammo using common surplus components or get it from other sources.
Ofcourse the 408CheyTac worship is likely borne of similar nonsense by folks who don't know the EDM and CheyTac fall out. Much less the common apples to oranges comparison CheyTac used to use comparing match 408CT to mil-spec 50BMG fodder(as opposed to match 50BMG ammo) when comparing the supersonic flight range.
The windrunner to be considered by the Dept of Defence must pass stringent test,s. After looking at the price list, too expensive,to many maintenance tools to loose in the field. Cartridge not normaly availabe from existing stock located at depot level.If I were a member of the Ordinace Test Board,it would definatly be a no purchase order.
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Originally posted by whoop308: There was recently a show on the 408 cheytac. Bill Richie from EDMARMS manufactures the windrunner in 408 and This rifle is without any doubt the best sniper rifle ever designed. Check out www.edmarms.com to see a real rifle. Barrett copied the 408 with their 416 because the 408 has been kicking the 50bmg's butt for years now. This rifle has everything
The most accurate round that will ever be fired in my opinion, from a powder actuated rifle will be a slug style round. The round having raised marks looking similar to rifling tracks in a barrel, but on the round itself. In conjunction with a smooth bore barrel that spring recoils.
I have fired a weapon like this, that has topped any other weapon I have fired by an infinitely more accurate margin. It was so accurate that I still have trouble believing what took place.
It fired silently as well with no other mechanical apparatus to create the silencing effect. The gun if fired with ordinary rounds would fire with an audible common shotgun sound.
He has tried the same tricks over on the Mythbusters site.
He is talking about his absolutely silent Japanese Browning Auto-5 shotgun, and how accurate it is with slugs.
Oddly, some of his old posts seem to have disappeared, like how he can hit flying hubcaps at 400 yds. with a rifle. (He gets it in the air with the first shot, then keeps it in the air with the rest of the rounds.)
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Oddly, some of his old posts seem to have disappeared, like how he can hit flying hubcaps at 400 yds. with a rifle. (He gets it in the air with the first shot, then keeps it in the air with the rest of the rounds.)
Oddly, some of his old posts seem to have disappeared, like how he can hit flying hubcaps at 400 yds. with a rifle. (He gets it in the air with the first shot, then keeps it in the air with the rest of the rounds.)
And what is so hard to do about that. I had a scope. It was like shooting fish in a barrel.
And what is so hard to do about that. I had a scope. It was like shooting fish in a barrel.
Until I see it I will not believe it (even then I will be skeptical). Hitting anything at 400 yd with a shotgun is nothing short of a miracle. Let alone doing it on command while keeping the hubcap in the air with the rounds. As a matter of fact I believe I do remember you from the MB site.
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And what is so hard to do about that. I had a scope. It was like shooting fish in a barrel.
Clearly a lie.
If not, I challenge you to contact me, I will make travel arrangements for you to come to my farm and perform this feat of amazing skill, before my very eyes. Only then will I believe you are not what you clearly are.........
I noticed that the 30-06 army surplus 180 grain round fired from a Browning semi automatic rifle. Seemed to have a slight spiral about a two inch spiral from what I could tell.
I also noticed that hunting rounds seemed to create a different effect. With the scope set the same way.
If I sighted the gun at 100 yards at two hundred it dropped two inches. Yet at four hundred I was still pretty much on target.
Also the time of flight for a shotgun slug at 400 yds is well over one second.
Let us say that he had a "fast" slug that was traveling at 1450 fps. It would take that slug .83 seconds to reach that distance. And the slug would drop about (guesstimating here) 9 feet give or take. Yeah this guy is full of stinky bear poo poo.
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