Why are you all so complaining about the special?
Look on the bright side.
Somebody has to break the ice to catch the fish, at this time it was Animal Planet.
Somebody has to get more interest on dragons, and I think AP has succeded.
Do you know that now this is probably the most popular site about dragons on the Internet?
We must also encourage other people to study more dragons, not drive them off the site with our frustrations.
Did you expected miracles?
I watched the film 4 weeks ago in Croatia,
and that is why now I believe dragons existed,
and that is why now I am on this site.
There are lot of people out there just like me,
who didn't even thought about dragons before the film.
This special is ,hopefully, just a spark that announces a age of dragon studying.
We must be patient, and who says it's all fake?
Where is smoke, there is a fire.
Now, let's try to discuss the bright side of the special and about dragons.

You're missing the point.

It's not the dragon interests or the study of them that we're upset about. It's the way the film was done.

I agree with balvan. Dragons did exist and might still exist today. People are always talking about livestock going missing near mountains and some rock climbers have been found torn to bits.
Scientists might think that the livestock broke their fencing or an UFO got them and the climbers fell, but I don't think so. What if dragons got the livestock and climbers? Their might still be a small group of dragons left that have been forced to live together in one small place. We SHOULD be looking for them instead of saying they never existed and never will. What about the body that was found, huh? They couldn't make that up. It was to real to be animated. They even showed you the insides and they were big enough to hold enough hydrogen to lift a dragon.

[This message was edited by mod_kelly on 03-22-05 at 04:24 PM.]

What was wrong witth the way the film was done? I loved it and recorded it. I also belive they did exist. After watching this film i am going to do some research on dragons later so it did spark my intrest.

I have, and will always believe that Dragons are out there. Besides, mombadoo has a good point. How could they make up the body of a dragon. I don't think it's possible(I don't even think the body was even computer generated. That'd be WAY too hard to do ). So in my opinion, dragond ARE real.

The discovery was fake. While dragons might exist, this show was totally made up. Did you not watch the last 30 mins, the making of it? And yes they could've easily been computer generated - you think all of the Star Wars creatures are real too?

i was not to impressed with the film either it was OK but they made it look better on the commercials.



p.s. if u go to the florida aqarium any time in your life u can see a sea dragon the size of a seahorse

if i had to rate this film 1 through 10 it be maybe a 4 or 5

It could have had more from the expert viewpoint instead of the what if aspect but on the whole it was a good show.

thids film may help research of dragons for years to come is it just by luck that ever culture has a dragon story and look in revalation 12:3-6 in the bible

she is right it was from the experts point of view

"Three years in the making!"
"Yo will beleive!"

Give me a break!
I waited in great expectation for this special. I was disapointed. Scenes were dully extended for time, the whole show could have been presented in just 1 hour. Animation scenes were repeated.
The mating sequence was well done.
Maybe my expectations were too high, but when you tell me that it took three years to make I expect Sea Snakes attacking, knights fighting with dragons and yes, experts in the subject giving opininons and theories in a more serious way. Save the "making of" for the DVD. There has been better "how we animated" featurettes in a lot of DVD's.

I should have employed my time watching Reign of Fire, Dragonslayer or Dragonheart.

peace

P.D. I am still waiting for a true Dragon special.

I'm going to approch this in as calm a manner as I can.

I wholeheartedly believe Dragons should be given a second chance. I salute the people who made this and I don't only mean the animators. Researcher, illustrators, animators, writers, everyone. It was supposed to be as believable as possible.

Also, don't insult the animators work because with insulting that, you insult the illustrator's work. There was nothing wrong with the way this program was animated or shown. The dragons were beautifully animated and illustrated. I only believe that they should have showed more dragons than the ones they did show. It should have been more than an hour and a half. Of course, this is only one person's opinion.

I have noticed something weird about the end of the film. You all speak about the last 30 min in which they deny everything they have discovered.
The end didn't look like this in Croatia 4 weeks ago, and the film still lasted a hour and a half.
Would somebody like to tell me shortly the end of the film shown in the US?
Im telling the end in Croatia.
I'll try to translate the words as best I can.
At the end, when they go in to the ice cave and reconstruct the final details of the life of the mountain dragon,
they find another body, the mother of the offspring, the body that was in the show all the time.
When they make a triumphant discovery of the great dragon, they reconsruct the story entirely about the knights that fought the dragon,and then they said(translate from Croatian):
"Mith about a sheep stealer(the dragon),
true story about insulted peasants .
...
Mith about knights who tried to slay a dragon, true story about the eradication of dragons."
After that they wait for air transport to a museum, I'm not sure where.
They put the bodies in the museum.
A year later (in the film) dr.Tanner receives a photo(the face of the photo is turned away from the viewers) and when he sees it , he begins to be extremly excited,and starts runing out the museum. The story about the dragons is not finished yet. And then the film ends, showing the AP logo and so on.

Of course the story of the dragons is not done.
They wouldn't spend 3 years doing the animation,
climbing the mountains with the flame throwers
and all the rest just to produce a one shot show.
The footage can easily be stored and reworked so
that you can produce several specials from the
same footage.And if they really get ambitious
they produce a drama series that they can resell
to whoever wants to buy it.

Today you've got animation of dragons swooping
and diving around the mountains.Perhaps in a
year or two they separate the background image
and have croatia's dragons doing battle with
American F-16's .Its easy enough with video
editors to take animation meant for a science
show and turn it into a action drama series.

You are right when you say they can "re-use" the footage but this will not make it more interesting, it will just be a repetition with a different background.

In all fairness I have to say that it is not that the program was bad, t is more a disapointment based on the hopes they created on a lot of us who expected a true and powerful work of television. It became just an average show with little substance. The material out there, historical, theoretical and fantastic is a great source for a great show. Yes, even enough for a whole year worth of 1 hour shows.

Will I buy the DVD? Maybe, maybe not. I think it is a start and I hope that other producers see this as an oportunity to do it right. As I said on another thread, I am still waiting for the definitive dragon special. This one was not.

peace

If you like the show and if there's a full version on the DVD(shown in Britain ("The Last Dragon") and Croatia("Vrijeme zmajeva"-"Time of dragons" translated form Croatian)),I recommend that you buy it.
Because on AP you saw a shorted, lower-quality version.
Get more information about the DVD.

Although Croatia has very preserved nature(40 percent of the country is under forest, the sea is one if the cleanest in the world, great supplies of fresh water etc.), she has too small unpopulated areas to maintain a dragon population.
If there are dragons on this world, only these countries can give them space for life:
1.Russia
2.Canada
3.Mongolia
4.USA
5.China
6.Kazakhstan
7.maybe Brazil
8.maybe DR Congo
So it's a silly idea to speak about Croatian dragons.
Maybe they lived here in the past.
(There are also stories about dragons in Croatian folklore)

Balvan, dragons could also live in the Bermuda Triangle, Great Desert, Himalaya Mountains, undiscovered islands.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by balvan:
If you like the show and if there's a full version on the DVD(shown in Britain ("The Last Dragon") and Croatia("Vrijeme zmajeva"-"Time of dragons" translated form Croatian)),I recommend that you buy it.
Because on AP you saw a shorted, lower-quality version.
Get more information about the DVD.[/QUOTE]

you mean the DVD that AP is selling may be the full version?... if that's true... then I should buy it for the full version's sake... if not... then..... o well