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Registered: 08-01-07
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I have had my new puppies for 5 days today, they are sisters. They are so cute and cuddly. They are 9 weeks as of yesterday. They love to snuggle up in their bed together, sleep together, eat together, play together, DO ANYTHING TOGETHER! I am keeping one of the puppies and my mom is taking the other. This way they'll still see each other but we don't have to deal with the bonding issues. They each cost $2,000, so their pretty expensive puppies. BUT THEIR SOOOOOOOOOO WORTH IT! My mom was on the breeders waiting list for 8 months, and when she could get one she asked me if I wanted to get one too and she'd pay. So I went with her and we picked out 2 females, one white, one black. I'm keeping the black puppy. I have named her Sassy, and my mom's is Juliet. They are such cute puppies and Juliet will be going home with my mom tomorrow. I love my little Sassy pants. (even though she's more like a sweetie pie)
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I think it's absolutely ridiculous to pay $2,000 for a dog.

Do they cook or clean? Maybe know how to drive a car?

Then they'd be worth it.
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They cooked up some vicious gas after they had wet puppy food, and when I left some salamii on the table they cleaned that up, and I'm sure they would be able to drive my car to the hospital if I fall(lol, joking). But my mom really wanted one and she got it and insisted that I get a sibling and I was actually looking for a puppy, so I was happy to get one. Sassy is the most intelligent, and Juliet is the most naughty. Sassy is close to being pottytrained and Juliet prefers to go on paper, so I think I might of got the good puppy for me. I really love this lil' spark of energy, plus she is very pretty. They said she could very well be show quality.
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Registered: 06-07-07
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u just spent 4,000 dollars on 2 puppies? wow. my mom thought 80 dollars at the animal shelter was expensive. but hey, ur life, ur choices, ur money. do u have any pics?
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No, my mom spent it. I don't have any pictures, but I'll try to get some. Plus you know toy poodles are pretty expensive that's why it was $2000 each. And we have full registration and show/breeding contracts. They would of $1500 without those, so it not just for the puppy itself. It covers all that, plus a 3year warrantee.

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And I have decided since my mom bought it that she can have both puppies and that I will help her out. I'm not really a poodle person, and the breeder said that they bark a lot, which I dont want. Plus, I dont want a poodle, their WAY not my type of dog. I already told my mom and she was happy. I have actually never seen her so happy ever, she loves both of these puppies. She changed Sassy's name to Samantha-"Sammy". So the pups will be groomed by me for free, but my mom might just go to petsmart and have them shaved or trimmed, not completely groomed like I do professionly. O ya I forgot to mention that their not toy poodles, their miniatures. But the cool thing is that my mom is moving in with me. Her boyfriend broke up with her beause she got poodles. So we will have her 2 poodles on the side house and I will have my puppy(as soon as I decided on a breed) at my house up front. {We have 2 houses on 1 property, one in front of the other}

So now I'm trying to decide on a breed.
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Registered: 07-31-07
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Awww... little puppies. I bet their cuties, I have 2 teenie tiny dogs-***teacup yorkies*** They cost me $850 each, so $1,700 for both. Plus well over $1,000 in outfits, leashes, collars, cute beds, and all kinds of cute stuff that they really didn't need. They love being spoiled though. So thats what matters. They have their own room, filled up with about $500 worth of doggie stuff. And they have their own hairdressers(aka THE GROOMERS!)They don't like the G word. They prefer hair stylist. Congrats on the pups!
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Registered: 06-04-07
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I paid $1,800 for my first Cavalier from a breeder. The other 2 i got for free. One came form the breeder i got my first cavalier from the other came from a customer that needed to find a home for her 2 year old Cavalier at the pet store i work at. I technically owe her $900 for him. I've had him for a almost a year now and haven't payed her yet. I bred My dogs together and am charging $1,800 each for the puppies and one has a home already and they just turned 6 weeks old. The people that pay that kind of money for a dog is a TRUE dog lover. Before i got my Cavaliers i had a Boxer that i purchased for $700 back in 1995.
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Registered: 10-11-06
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You just spent $4,000 on two puppies?!?! YIPE! And here I thought that $300 was out of the question. IMO, that's just way too much to spend on a dog. But hey, it's your business and who am I to criticize? If you love the dog and really wanted it then I understand. Smile I almost got a yorkie until I realized how much the expense would be to own one. About $1500-2000!!! Eek
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The people that pay that kind of money for a dog is a TRUE dog lover.


Carrie496...
WRONG... they are usually TRUE fools. A TRUE dog lover wouldn't care where their dog came from or what it cost. Unless you're breeding (not back-yard breeding like you are doing, but serious breeding)or showing, there is no reason to ever pay that kind of money for a dog.
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I payed $250 for my Purebred Australian Cattle dog, plus $250 shipping. $500 total, from a breeder in Oklahoma, and he is a darling. Absolutely beautiful, loving, and healthy to boot.

I would never pay $2000 for a puppy, nor $1800, or even $1000. That is TOO MUCH for a puppy who may be absolutely no better (in looks or temperment) than a $100-200 shelter puppy or rescued dog. I understand if your purposes are to show, but most people do not intend to buy a puppy for these purposes. NOT TO MENTION when people pay extra money for dogs called "mini" (without being an actual breed like a miniature poodle) or "teacup" these dogs are obviously not living to the breed standard, and can't even BE shown.

In conclusion: it is incredibly ridiculous to pay that much for a puppy, or to breed and charge that much for a puppy with no extra ordinary blood line/pedigree or super powers.
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Registered: 03-19-07
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You people amuse me greatly. I spent 1,000 for my PET quality rottweiler a show quality puppy would run for 1,500. And guess what, seriously stop being such adoption snobs. Some people buy purebred and that is their choice. If they got it from an ethical breeder EXACTLY WHAT is the problem here?

I refuse to support my local humane society because they are not a good place. I will not support a place that tries to get rid of the pitbulls and rottweilers as fast as is possible.

I'm sorry but for the work I do (personal protection training) shelter dogs simply NEVER make the final cut because they don't have the drive for it.

I'm a breed specific person. After shelby passes on I will probably only get rottweiler from here on out. Many people only have one breed they want and it's not always easy finding a non mixed dog at the shelter in your town.

And please don't talk about driving here and there because I neither have a license or a car. Just my tricycle.

MOST purebred dogs start at 1,000 from an ethical breeder. Mutts are fine if you just want a pet. But certain people want a certain type of dog for a reason and so I prefer to get dogs to which I KNOW what dogs are in their line. That way I can almost be sure of drive or temperament even before they are born.
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I didn't even think of that, badkittyamy. And I feel silly for not thinking of it. You're right, if people do want a dog for a specific reason (such as personnal protection, guide dog, service dog, theropy dog, etc.) then by all means, it is necessary to find a dog with the right temperment, blood line, etc. Or, if the breed they are interested in is over-bred, has a bad reputation (due to people making them this way), or anything like that, then it is often difficult to find the right puppy, and breeder, thus making them more expensive. This is just what I am thinking, it could be wrong but hey.

I agree also, that people do often want a certain breed of dog; like me and Australian Cattle Dogs. I was going to go through a rescue group, but it is absolutely ridiculously (if you ask me) difficult to get a dog from these people. Firstly, you have to drive/fly to get the dog, it cannot be shipped. Which, okay fine I understand. But the questions they ask you are insane! One place asked me what breeds of dog lived next door to me, and across the street. What does it matter? So what, downstairs from me is a German Shepherd and a German Short-Haired Pointer. Across the street is a Pitbull and a Border Collie. I mean honestly, they would turn you away for something like that, having the wrong breed living near you! It makes me sick, the people are whacky.

In any event; I still stick with what I said that I would, personally, not pay $2,000 for a puppy, since alls I am looking for is a healthy and happy pet to do obedience with. But as for everyone else; it's all up to you =)
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Registered: 03-19-07
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Yup for example there is a great need for properly bred dogs in The Bahamas and so I am helping my father find good dogs to go into a breeding program back home to breed work quality rottweilers.

So for that yeah he's shelling out quite the heavy dollar because you can't bring in young pups to the country so we have to look for adult dogs. Puppies are 1,500 show quality however once they get older most ethical breeders have put training and titles on the dog. The male we are looking at now has already started Schutzhund training and has his HTC (herding trial certificate) all in all with AKC ownership transfer and shipping to the Bahamas he will probably end up being around 4,000
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Yeah that sounds like a great plan. Although I don't personally like Schutzhund training because the woman downstairs from me is training her dog in this, and he attacked my brother for walking in the front door of his own house. It was ridiculous, and he drew blood. The owner said, "Sorry, he is trained to protect what he thinks is his." Meaning, if we go to walk into our house and he is outside, he will attack us.

I think it's fine and dandy if you want to train a dog as a personnal protection dog and actually plan on having it put to use, but if it's being done just because then I think it could be more a danger than anything else, considering she lives in an apartment, with her OTHER dog who is dog aggressive and kills cats/small dogs.

Who knows, maybe this is just ONE irresposible owner? I don't know, but it is the impression I have gotten.

As for your Bahamas mission, best of luck to you =D
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You people amuse me greatly. I spent 1,000 for my PET quality rottweiler a show quality puppy would run for 1,500. And guess what, seriously stop being such adoption snobs. Some people buy purebred and that is their choice. If they got it from an ethical breeder EXACTLY WHAT is the problem here?

I refuse to support my local humane society because they are not a good place. I will not support a place that tries to get rid of the pitbulls and rottweilers as fast as is possible.

I'm sorry but for the work I do (personal protection training) shelter dogs simply NEVER make the final cut because they don't have the drive for it.

I'm a breed specific person. After shelby passes on I will probably only get rottweiler from here on out. Many people only have one breed they want and it's not always easy finding a non mixed dog at the shelter in your town.

And please don't talk about driving here and there because I neither have a license or a car. Just my tricycle.

MOST purebred dogs start at 1,000 from an ethical breeder. Mutts are fine if you just want a pet. But certain people want a certain type of dog for a reason and so I prefer to get dogs to which I KNOW what dogs are in their line. That way I can almost be sure of drive or temperament even before they are born.


Badkittyamy:
Stop being such a breeder snob then! :lol: Anyway, I think if you want to buy a breed for show, then go for it. The price, for me, though is OUTRAGEOUSLY HIGH for a dog that I could get from a Humane society. What does a breeder dog have that a Humane society dog doesn't have? Better temperment?? Better coat or color??? I have to say that breeder buyers amuse me as well cause they act all high and mighty when it comes to buying dogs. But hey, all power to you if you wanna spend that kind of money for a pet if you have it to spend that is. Smile
I do agree though that some Humane socities aren't that great when getting a new puppy. I know cause I went to one looking for another dog a few weeks ago. It was filthy, nasty, and the people were uncaring about the pets they had. That was a real turn-off for me and I left because of it. So I can see your point of view about certain Humane societies. Not ALL of them are the best in the world! Smile
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Registered: 09-09-07
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I have gotten a dog from a breeder for $200 and she is wonderful She is a show quality dog and we got her to replace my husbands hunting dog. He takes her to feild trials and does really well with her. I have also gotten a dog from a shelter and he was the best dog very loving and obedient and as far as shelter dogs not being good enough for for gaurd dog duties is wrong. I happen to know for a fact that the California border patrol gets shelter dogs and trains them to work at the border My mother worked for a police dept in Ca. and they also had dogs from shelters that did as well as the german shepards they had from germany in police work. So I would say Breeding doesn't really play into that it's just a matter of preferance.
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That woman is spouting BS she is training her dog as an attack dog NOT in Schutzhund. Schutzhund is PURELY a sport to determine drive in a dog and no dog trained in Schutzhund is ready to be a personal protection dog. They have no situation training and so usually someone touching their head during a bite will freak them out.

If she's training Schutzhund I'd LOVE to see her dog run a course. Schutzhund is NOT just biting a sleeve. It also has tracking, obedience and agility. If her dog can't do these it is just a attack dog.

The facts behind Schutzhund:
http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/protect.htm#shutz
http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/dog.htm


A personal protection dog also should not be randomly biting people either. This is a 9 month old malinois german shepherd mix in training. Look at the foundation of obedience and the fact that the person can pet the dog after a bite.

A REAL Personal protection Dog in training:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uRaCv4Njcnk

And doggiegirl25 please notice everyone else was AMAZED someone would buy a dog for that much I was simply stating WHY people do so try to calm down a teeny bit. How is defending the buying of a pure-bred dog being a "breeder snob"?

You guys started it I was only defending it. Again not everyone wants a dog just as a pet. Some people enjoy certain sports such as Schutzhund and last I checked I have never met a shelter dog with the drive to title in Schutzhund.

And I have only ever owned ONE pure-bred dog EVERY dog I have EVER had up until my rottweiler has been a rescue. The lack of drive is simply not what I look for in a dog any more thanks. Especially considering again we're starting up a kennel, or would you have us finding mutts to breed? Wow real snobbish there -rolls eyes-

Every time anyone here mentions buying from a breeder people here flip OUT.
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I don't know badkittyamy, I'm just going by what she told me. She told me her dog trains in Schutzhund. Maybe you should give her a good firm talking to - lol.

Not to keep this going or anything, but for the record, everyone on here is again entitled to their opinions, as we should all know. Some people like shelters/rescues while others like breeders or even pet stores.

I like breeders, and have gotten from pet shops (which I will not be doing again, but lucked out with my two from there). I have never gotten a dog from a shelter all except once a while back, an Australian Cattle Dog who ended up biting my face for sitting on my mothers bed. Bad experience, but it didn't turn me off to shelter dogs, I simply would rather a pure-bred dog from a breeder that can tell me everything about the dogs parents, grand parents, brothers, sisters, etc. The dog comes with a health guarentee, you know what the dog's temperment will most likely be (not always true, but if you know about the dogs line, you can get a clue about how your dog may act, looks like, activity level, prey drive, etc.) My most recent Australian Cattle Dog addition came from a breeder in OK (like I stated before) and he came from pure working bloodlines, and will hopefully be good in obedience and POSSIBLY agility if we choose to do it. If we had cows, sheep, or anything around here I would give that a try but hey, he will make a good pet none-the-less.

Now, AGAIN everyone - is - entitled - to - their - own - opinions. So lets not bash other people.

Now, most agree $2000 is a lot for a pet dog. But if someone wants to pay it, so be it. They may have their reasons, and someone else may have theirs. It's all in your prefference and your wallet.
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I agree with acdxx009. Everyone IS entitled to THEIR own opinions about what kind of dog they want to get. No one should be put down just because they don't agree with one another about shelter dogs versus breeder dogs. And badkittyamy, I was merely joking on the matter calling you a breeder snob. Apparently you missed the joke and took it offensively. Well, not to be judgemental or anything, but it was YOU who called us adopters snobs and I was just biting back my tongue trying not to get angry at that accusation. So please don't bash others on here for not having the same opinion as you. As I said in my earlier post(if you didn't read it already) if you want to get a breeder dog then MORE POWER TO YOU!!! I just would never do it because of 1)too costly and 2)too many diseases involved. That's just my opinion and if you don't like it then I'm sorry. We can't help to be human here. Smile So, lighten up.
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