I am one of those smaller breeders that do not show, but I do pay attention to the standard. Almost all the puppies that I sell go on limited registration or are spayed or neutered before they leave (if I hold them until that appropriate age).
I just have a huge deal with these breeders that are earning Ch. in the ring with their dogs, but go and breed their Harlequin to Harlequin. It's disgusting and it's wrong.

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Originally posted by doggiegirl25:
I agree with acdxx009. Everyone IS entitled to THEIR own opinions about what kind of dog they want to get. No one should be put down just because they don't agree with one another about shelter dogs versus breeder dogs. And badkittyamy, I was merely joking on the matter calling you a breeder snob. Apparently you missed the joke and took it offensively. Well, not to be judgemental or anything, but it was YOU who called us adopters snobs and I was just biting back my tongue trying not to get angry at that accusation. So please don't bash others on here for not having the same opinion as you. As I said in my earlier post(if you didn't read it already) if you want to get a breeder dog then MORE POWER TO YOU!!! I just would never do it because of 1)too costly and 2)too many diseases involved. That's just my opinion and if you don't like it then I'm sorry. We can't help to be human here. So, lighten up.

I have to agree with earlier posts about humane societies being one of the most difficult places to obtain a pet. I remember one girl telling me she was going to adopt a cat but she first had to bring everyone who spends time at the house to meet the cat first... including her niece from out of town that only came by once a month if at all. Since her niece was not available to meet the cat they denied her application for adoption.

The higher price tag is (or should be iff the breeder is reputable) comes from the tests that are done to screen out health problems BEFORE breeding an animal. This will help you know what you're getting with your new pet. I bought a dog for $1200, on a pet contract (meaning she has to be spayed since I don't have the time nor money to invest into breed her). She is more of a rare breed and has been more than worth my investment already and she's not even 2 years old yet. I adopted a dog from a humans society in the past. It was a beagle mix that was cleared for adoption through the screening process. He was returned to the humane siciety to be put down after it tried to take my calf off. My expensive dog, whom I've had and know where's he been since the day he was born, has never made a vilent move on my children, regardless of what they do. For example, I turned around to look at my 1 year old and saw him poking her in the eye and she just continued to lay there with her eye closed. I made him stop of course and told him it was naughty to do that and she just got up and walked away.

For most people, you get what you pay for. I don't want mistakes or uncertainty and for me that's well worth the high price tag.

Awww! sister puppies* how cute! I think it's great that your mom has one and you have one so they'd be able to see each other* so cute!

As I said before, I usually end up losing money with a litter. Either that, or I break even. As I said before, I do not show... but I do take the breed standard into consideration. My pricing is as follows. (I have AKC Great Danes that have ringside champions as well as agility and obedience champions in the line. I love a dog with drive.)

If a family is looking for a pet that they will spay or neuter or have me do it before they recieve their animal... it is $500. The puppy goes to their home at 12 weeks (or older) with appropriate shots a health certificate. There is a contract. These puppies are on limited registration and MUST be spayed or neutered. The fee is flat rate. The dog could be a show quality animal or of a pet color... but if it is to be a family pet and they spay or neuter it, the fee stands as it is.

I also offer the option of a co-own. As of right now, I only have one dog that is co-owned. He is a large black male. Beautiful dog that I would have kept myself, if I had the room. Anyway, co-owns go for $750. Again, the dog comes at 12 weeks (or older) with appropriate shots and a STRICT contract. The dog is not allowed to be bred without consulting me... and they need my signature. I need to approve the dog for breeding (it will get tested by me... paying the vet fees, etc) and any dog being bred to the dog must be up to par and be tested as well. If it does not meet the standard or exceed it... no go. If the dog from my kennel reaches two years old and is lacking, I will pay for the spay or neuter.

The last option is a full ownership. $1000. This usually defers morons who are looking to breed just any Dane. Dogs under full ownership and registration are able to be bred, however... there is an extremely STRICT contract of my own. Much like the co-ownership, the dog can't be bred until it is two years old and passes the testing. If the dog lacks, I will refund a portion of their money. But, I've never had a dog go on this... because I try to deter most people from this path. I may be young, but I do know the breed very well and I happen to have an eye for things.

Not all small breeders are bad. I do love the breed and my breedings happen VERY sparingly... and if I can help it, they go on limited registration... and if they go on more... there is the contract AND the dog has to pass many health screenings and meet the standard.

I commend you on bein such a responsible and excellent breeder. Your policies protect the breed and the animal. Thank you! And it is true that not all small breeders are bad breeders. Not all of us want to or are able to run a home with a ton of pets in it. That doesn't make us bad!

THANK you. I get a lot of flack, and it's nice to see someone who understands.

(In the Great Dane world, a lot of show breeders who breed Harlequin colored dogs are extremely irresponsible and breed two of these Harley dogs together, creating blind and deaf puppies. That, in my opinion, is extremely irresponsible. They do this, in hopes of better marked Harlequins.

Why do you guys get them from breeders. Go to your local animal shelter and adopt a dog that really needs a home. Not some expensive little pup.

crazy,
I am a breeder myself. I take into considerations genetic disorders, the breed standard, and if you've read my posts, 99.9% of my pups go out sterilized. Those that do not are under strict contract not to be bred until health testing is done and temperament is checked. The dog must also meet the standard.

Even though I do breed, I also rescue. I foster, as well. Mostly giant breed dogs, but I will take anyone that needs a place to stay. (The only thing I can't do is cats, because of a severe allergy.)

And, pups are expensive for a reason. Most breeders with expensive puppies (providing they're not some ridiculous "poo" mix that "doesn't shed" or whatever) are pouring that money right back into their dogs. I'm not saying that they're buying their dogs little 24 ct. gold toys and what-not. They're testing their dogs, getting the proper training, grooming, and feeding a high quality kibble or raw diet. They're getting the proper veterinary care.

Not all of us are bad. The last litter that I saw fit to produce was in 2006. I haven't even studded out my dogs, as the females around here are unacceptable. I do care about the breed and where it is going, so I'm extremely careful about who goes with who, and what with what, and so on.

(Sorry if this post is weird. I work third shift and I'm absolutely exhausted. Had to work an 8 day stretch and we're having issues with my son's grandmother thinking that he's her child... ugh.)

if you bothered to read the thread (which if you did apparently it went right over your head) several people explained WHY they get their dogs from breeders

Wow, guys. Quit fighting so much. It's pretty immature. The type of dog varies depending on what it'll be used for. I have a pet-quality shelter dog and she's amazing; however, I have paid $1,500 for a show-quality English Springer Spaniel for Agility. It all depends on what you want your dog for.

That's exactly what we're saying queen.