my boyfriend bought me a ckc registered min dachsund for x-mas. she is about 8-9months old and he wants to breed her right away. i think we need to wait. what should we do?

Absolutely not.

There's a number of reasons not to breed, and first and foremost being the dog is WAY TOO YOUNG.

Why does he want to breed? Let me guess? To make some money?

That's a HORRIBLE reason to breed, and just because the dog is registered in no way, shape or form means that it's a breed-able dog.

Please don't add to the population of unwanted and euthanized dogs by supporting a back yard breeder.

Btw your ckc paers are worthless. they will register any dog that looks purebred as long as a picture is sent, money is sent and two people SAY it is.

I am assuming these papers are the continental kennel club. They also register designer breeds further proving how worthless papers from them are.

Besides a dog must be 2 before even consider breeding. Have you researched the breed? Do you know if she is breeding quality and the proper standards for the breed? Are you planning on showing the dog to gain titles to prove it is worth breeding?

http://www.ckcusa.com/truth.htm
http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/forum/3600.aspx
http://rantsfordogs.blogspot.com/2007/10/why-your-ckc-p...s-are-worthless.html

I think you should not listen to narrow minded people that have nothing better to do than criticize on the blog. I think you should contact your Vet and ask his opinion. I have a boxer and She just turned a year old in October and we are delivering our first litter today hopefully. I was keeping her away from my male and my vet told me to breed her. It was perfectly fine. She is in labor as we speak. I'm very excited. It's not the people that breed animals to sell that are the problem. It is the ones whom just let their animal breed with whatever and try to give the dogs away because it was an accident. THAT'S THE PROBLEM!! Not the money makers. Ask your VET.

oh, by the way. for the narrow minded I DON'T CARE IF SHE HAS 26 PUPPIES. I PLAN TO KEEP THEM ALL. AFTER ALL THEY ARE THE OFFSPRING OF TWO OF MY FAVORITE PETS.

the money makers are the problem too, and I've known alot of people saying they will keep all the pups and end up getting rid of all of them except maybe 1. the people here aren't narrow minded and I understand that when you have pets you love you wana breed and get 1 of their pups but again like they said it adds to the pet population. there is a lot of things that go into a breeding anyway and breeding puts unneeded stress on the female. I wouldn't breed its clear your boyfriend just wants some doe in his pocket and for that I say get a job.

desertrose you are the kind of crappy breeder that makes peta and all the crazies want to ban all breeding. 1 is a BABY they aren't even full GROWN yet. It's simply SICK.

Dogs aren't full grown till 2 or 3 yet you have what is classified as a puppy 1-12 months aka a year having puppies. you should be ashamed and if your vet encouraged you to breed a one year old then they are JUST as stupid. I'm sorry but your vet falls into the realm of omg how did they get through school.

You are going to raise a whole litter of pups at the same time? Have fun with that raising two puppies together much less a groups of pups is a very very un-recommended exercise even for the most experienced of trainers.


If you had bother to do ANY research into breeding you would find a wealth of information on why NOT to breed you dog before 2.

Should I breed?

http://www.chowwelfare.com/cciw/breeddog.htm
http://www.dogster.com/answers/question/how_old_should_...ed_for_breeding-2667
http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-13109.html
http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080124235549AAmeHSx
http://www.k9web.com/dog-faqs/breeding.html

These people are asking about specific breeds but breed makes no difference in the responsibilities you must take before breeding.

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Originally posted by desertrose:
I think you should not listen to narrow minded people that have nothing better to do than criticize on the blog. I think you should contact your Vet and ask his opinion. I have a boxer and She just turned a year old in October and we are delivering our first litter today hopefully. I was keeping her away from my male and my vet told me to breed her. It was perfectly fine. She is in labor as we speak. I'm very excited. It's not the people that breed animals to sell that are the problem. It is the ones whom just let their animal breed with whatever and try to give the dogs away because it was an accident. THAT'S THE PROBLEM!! Not the money makers. Ask your VET.

I can tell that your opinions are not going to be welcome on this forum. You are a irresponsible breeder, selfish and unethical. You love your dogs? Your post says you only care about you.

I bet you have no idea what you're doing and your vet is a two bit quack with a Kinko's made vet certificate on the wall.

So, desertrose?
Your practically criticizing the opinions of:
angeeleeta and badkittyamy.
Honestly, I don't think they are narrow minded people. They know a lot about dogs. And I highly doubt you will keep all the puppies from the litter.
Actually, I have been thinking about breeding my golden retriever. But of course she won't be bred no matter how much I want to breed her, unless she,
1.Gets all health clearances.
2.Gets her title.
3.And she has to be at least 2 years old.
That's responsible breeding.
You shouldn't be breeding your dog just for the fun.
It should be because the parents are good representatives of the breed. And the puppies will better the breed.

OK...FIRST OF ALL THESE PUPPIES ARE NOT FOR MONEY!! HIS OLDER DACHSHUND IS ALREADY GETTING TOO OLD AND HE WANTS ANOTHER PUPPY FROM HIM AND TRUST ME THESE PUPPIES WONT GO TO POOR HOMES ILL MAKE SURE OF THAT...HIS MOM AND MY MOM WOULD BOTH LIKE ONE...NOT TO MENTION THE REST OF OUR FAMILIES. AND I CONSULTED OUR VET AND HE SAID TO WAIT BETWEEN 1- 2 YEARS IS GOOD AND HE'S BEEN A VET FOR 20 YEARS!! AND NO HE'S NO QUAK..I'VE BEEN TAKING MY DOGS TO HIM FOR YEARS...SO YA THANKS FOR NOTHIN GUYS...I DONT THINK YALL ARE NARROW MINDED BUT YALL JUDGE WAAYYY TOO FAST BEFORE HEARING THE WHOLE STORY.

maybe you should of told the whole story in the first place then

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Originally posted by lilpup:
OK...FIRST OF ALL THESE PUPPIES ARE NOT FOR MONEY!! HIS OLDER DACHSHUND IS ALREADY GETTING TOO OLD AND HE WANTS ANOTHER PUPPY FROM HIM AND TRUST ME THESE PUPPIES WONT GO TO POOR HOMES ILL MAKE SURE OF THAT...HIS MOM AND MY MOM WOULD BOTH LIKE ONE...NOT TO MENTION THE REST OF OUR FAMILIES. AND I CONSULTED OUR VET AND HE SAID TO WAIT BETWEEN 1- 2 YEARS IS GOOD AND HE'S BEEN A VET FOR 20 YEARS!! AND NO HE'S NO QUAK..I'VE BEEN TAKING MY DOGS TO HIM FOR YEARS...SO YA THANKS FOR NOTHIN GUYS...I DONT THINK YALL ARE NARROW MINDED BUT YALL JUDGE WAAYYY TOO FAST BEFORE HEARING THE WHOLE STORY.

First of all, nice sentence structure, and "screaming" at us in all caps is really classy, not to mention very mature of you.

Second of all, try READING what people are saying and look at the quote boxes. No one said your puppies were going to bad homes. No one said your vet was a quack. We were referring to the other backyard breeder who came on here. But after reading your little baby out burst, I really don't care what you say, you are a byb too.

If you want people to respond to the "whole story", try typing it out next time.

OKAY????

(DOES IT HELP IT MAKE SENSE IF I SCREAM TYPE IT AT YOU?)

I'm sorry I don't care how long he's been a vet if he says 1 is old enough for ANY dog to breed ESPECIALLY a toy breed than he IS a quack. If you want I can call several vets and have them tell you exactly why is a list format why 2 is the ABSOLUTE minimum age to breed.

And I'm serious I will give you the numbers of several vets nation wide and even perhaps have you call an association of vets or breeders to explain all the negative effects of pups that young especially in a small breed.

And we weren't even talking to you, if you had sit and read you would see we were talking to the boxer lady who's vet also seems stuck in 20-30 years ago, perhaps that's the problem. Older vets that haven't bothered to update their research He's probably the same vet that will tell you pedigree and science diet are great and you shouldn't feed your dog raw.

Would you let a human child have a baby after their second or third period? That's what you are essentially doing when breeding a dog at 1. Going into heat means they are becoming sexually mature, it does not mean their bodies have finished growing. Putting the stress of a baby on a dog that is still growing is CRUEL. They have NOT finished growing till 2.

Pregnancy is a VERY stressful thing on a dog. it puts extreme stress on hormones and joints among other things. This can be VERY detrimental to a dog still growing aka a PUPPY aka a dog that's NOT 2 yet.

And if you didn't want us to tell you the right thing to do then WHY did you ASK?

I'm not sure if this is correct or not, but;
I believe that a dog at the age of 1, is still in that puppy/adolescence stage. Meaning, the dog probably won't even be interested in mother-hood; and might not take care of the puppies. This would be unfair to not only the mother dog, but of course the puppies.

Is this true information? I'm not sure, but it sounds pretty valid to me!

yea I think thats true and even if they're older they still might not bne interested in them

ok im sorry i shouldnt of yelled ur right i should of wrote the hole thing first. please forgive me. but you guys don't have to worry about a thing his dog died today soo ya but thanks for yalls help. p.s. can you clean a dogs ears with peroxide??

Peroxide is not a good idea to use on a dogs ears. It can injure the tender membranes in the dogs ears.

A better solution is a mix of vinegar and water, alcohol and water, or a commercial dog ear cleaner.

lilpup, I'm sorry about your dog dying. But a year old is too young to breed a dog. I'm sure you loved your older dog very much, but breeding him to another dog just to get a puppy just like him is a very bad choice. If you have no plans for showing your dog I suggest getting her spayed. Not that your family members wouldn't have taken good care of the puppies, would you have bred her afterwards? Then who would have gotten her second litter? More family members?

The best adviceI have read here is to check with the vet. Each dog and each breed are different and can or should not be pigeon holed into a category.
If I remember correctly it depends on the dog's cycle of coming into heat that is the consideration for breeding and how many times it has done so. It probably also depends on bone structure because a female dog gives up a lot of calcium to their pups.
I think you are all concerned about a puppy mill and that is a good sign. I think the first message from Lilpup may have been incomplete.
I would have recommended that anybody considering their dog to have a litter is to actually join a dog club. Before mating the dog. Specifically the club that is the type of dog they own. The club members have a lot of information as to what to look out for, problems if any and they might help place the pups.
It is very difficult to cover all aspects of mating a dog in an online forum. That is why I recommend joining a dog club.