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There are so many people who believe that global warming is a conspiracy but your theories are not yours! You have chosen to listen! You have to look outside of the picture that that they display in front of you because there is so much more to see that is not shown. I would like to here an original conspiracy theory. Instead of being a follower like the major population of global society be a leader and make choices for yourself. Don’t allow the government and corporations to determine what you think. Question everything and produce your own theories that are realistic and possible not drastic and irreconcilable.

I would like to hear from any individual that is willing to give any statement about global warming. I want to hear theories and statistics. I want to hear if you are a firm believer in global warming or against it and why.

This discussion may be biased because I’m a firm believer in global warming, but I’m willing to hear anything that will make me use my reasoning skills to understand but I will inform you now that I will try my best to convert you into a believer if you are not one or give you firm evidence that this issue does exist if you do not believe.
 
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May I suggest?
Let's Get Green! Energy and General Conservation
http://groups.myspace.com/wattsofpower
 
Posts: 394 | Registered: 02-27-07Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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What do you mean "go green"?
 
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Why do you believe in global warming. Don't tell me 'because the avarge temp is going up'.
 
Posts: 373 | Registered: 11-27-06Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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i say people sould use biofule it dosent emit co2 and its easy to make...
 
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Well While you are correct. Not all cars can use it. And not everyone has the money to buy those cars. Also co2 is not the main supect in global warming. I believe GW is much misunderstood, and bloown way out of proportion.
 
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Well, stringbeanduck. Biofuel cars are being released into society at a much larger speed than earlier predictions would have suspected and the price of them is about the same amount as a regular size vehicle, and more and more gas stations have this biofuel product so it is not irrational to think that biofuel is not an excellent method of reducing global warming.

I dont beleive in global warming because of the average temp. is increasing, I believe in global warming because new orleans is gone, ice caps are melting, sea levels are rising, there is more percepitation, the hottest heat waves have occured in the last 5 years internationally, the most deadly storms have happened in the last 5 years internationally, the largest amount of species depletion and creation have occured recently, and because virus adaptation has increased in the last 10 years. I beleive in global warming because we are all seeing it in motion through each persons climate. You can not tell me that your city has had exact same weather pattern for the last 10 years, and you cannot tell me that if you asked your parents that lived in that area that it has been the same till now, you cant. Stringbeanduck, you misunderstand global warming, just because it's two words long, doesnt mean its only two problems! Cause its alot more then global warming! I dont think we have been "blowing things out of porportion". I think the government is underestimating the problem at hand. Let me tell you of one of the MANY I repeat VAST, NUMEROUS,MANY problems that could occur from global warming. Look at a map and you can see green land, a place covered with a massive ice sheet. Lets say theoritically it is melting and it breaks an enourmous chunk off into the atlantic. This would disrupt the atlantic current and no longer would warm water reach the northern atlantic. Which if you didnt know would cause all of western europe to go into an instintanious ice age. I dont know about you but that seems to be a reason to worry.
 
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and my home flordia will be under water!!!!!!!
 
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[quote]I dont beleive in global warming because of the average temp. is increasing, I believe in global warming because new orleans is gone, ice caps are melting, sea levels are rising, there is more percepitation, the hottest heat waves have occured in the last 5 years internationally, the most deadly storms have happened in the last 5 years internationally, the largest amount of species depletion and creation have occured recently, and because virus adaptation has increased in the last 10 years. I beleive in global warming because we are all seeing it in motion through each persons climate. You can not tell me that your city has had exact same weather pattern for the last 10 years, and you cannot tell me that if you asked your parents that lived in that area that it has been the same till now, you cant. Stringbeanduck, you misunderstand global warming, just because it's two words long, doesnt mean its only two problems! Cause its alot more then global warming! I dont think we have been "blowing things out of porportion". I think the government is underestimating the problem at hand. Let me tell you of one of the MANY I repeat VAST, NUMEROUS,MANY problems that could occur from global warming. Look at a map and you can see green land, a place covered with a massive ice sheet. Lets say theoritically it is melting and it breaks an enourmous chunk off into the atlantic. This would disrupt the atlantic current and no longer would warm water reach the northern atlantic. Which if you didnt know would cause all of western europe to go into an instintanious ice age. I dont know about you but that seems to be a reason to worry.[quote]

What all you have described has been happening for over 300 years. You see the average temp on earth has been going up and down for millions of years. The 3000 year temperature of the earth as measured by sedimentary evidence in the Sargasso Sea off the southeastern United States shows temperatures 2500 to 3000 years ago were much higher than today. Rising temperatures over the past 100 years blamed on global warming are in fact merely a recovery from the Little Ice Age in the 1700s when there was no solar activity. The global temperature is still over 1 degree C cooler than it was in the 1200s during the Medieval Climate Optimum.

And what does New Orleans has to do with global warming. We have one very much above normal hurricane season and it just has to be global warming. btw last year was over whelming hurricane season too wasn’t it. Roll Eyes
I bet this year is going to be the same as last year. Although we may have a few more since the peak has not yet come. but as far as right now the Atlantic is pretty calm. I DO BELIEVE THAT we should step up our efforts on trying to clean up our place. I also believe with the green house gasses it may and this is just slightly affect our cycle. And al gores movie & books full of it. It sorrys me how people can be so money hungry. You see the part where the polar bears are swimming in the water looking for ice. Well guess what? Do you know we had fewer polar bears in the 50's than we do now.
 
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ya there may be more polar bears then befor but there going to disapere if we dont do something i admit golbal warming is natural but the temputer is rising quicker then nature ever did and the sea leveal is rising but if we dont do something now it would be to late and there will be massive amounts of people moveing from there homes....then its to late to fix anything so i think that we need to do something about global warming befor that happens....
 
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oh ya hurricane katriena was part of global warming because the topical waters were warmer than uasul and that gave the hurricane the power to become the monster it was...
 
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i agree with ratboss13
 
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“The atmosphere is made up of a multitude of gases. A small percentage of them we call greenhouse gases. And, of that very small percentage of greenhouse gases, 95 percent of it is water vapor; it’s the most important greenhouse gas.”

“If you take CO2 as a percentage of all the gases in the atmosphere - the oxygen, the nitrogen, and argon, and so on - its 0.054%. Its an incredibly small portion. And then, of course, you’ve got to take that portion that supposedly humans are adding, which is the focus of all the concern, and it gets even smaller.”

Dr. Tim Ball
Dept of Climatology
University of Winnipeg


"Humans produce a small fraction, in the single digits percentage wise, of the CO2 that is produced in the atmosphere."

"Water vapor is a greenhouse gas, by far the most important greenhouse gas."

"What we've found consistently is that in a great part of the planet that the bulk of the atmosphere is not warming as much as we see at the surface. And that's a real head scratcher for us because the theory is pretty straight forward. And the theory says that if the surface warms the upper atmosphere should warm rapidly. The rise in temperature of that part of the atmosphere is not very dramatic at all and really does not match the theory that climate models are expressing at this point."

Dr. John Christy
IPCC Lead Author
Professor and Director
Earth System Science Center, NSSTC
University of Alabama in Huntsville
1991 winner of NASA's Medal for Exceptional Scientific Achievement
1996 Special AMS Award Winner


"The observations do not show an increase with altitude in fact, most observations show a slight decrease in the rate of warming with altitude. So in a sense you could say that the hypothesis of man-made global warming is falsified by the evidence"

Dr. Frederick Singer
Former Director of US National Weather Service


“They ask me, ‘Did you see ice falling from the edge of glaciers?’ Yes. That’s the spring break up. That happens every year.”

“The press comes to us all the time, you know. ‘I want to see something that [from] the greenhouse disaster.’ I say, there is none.”
Dr. Syun-Ichi Akasofu
Director, International Arctic Research Center


“I think it’s fair for me to call them [global warming zealots] anti-human.”

Patrick Moore
Co-founder Greenpeace
 
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People People, ....
Global warming is by the people paying for it.
Liberals and environmentalists has conservatives and big corporations.
But the theory is being paid by the supporters of the people that post the rumor.
Check them out. See whom is supporting and paying the bills.
In the 1970's, we were going into the the next ice age. Chill out.
Instead of raising taxes 500%, chill out for 5 years and let the professional scientists finally communicate and be educated by the meterologist that they ignored for over 10 years.
It is kind of like have a auto mechanic diagnose my high blood pressure problem.
I think many people are taking to the chicken little approach, the sky is falling.
Most sadly are under eduacated youth that believe liberal teachers and not doing their homework. This is the main problem with society, believe what you are told and not reading the research and getting all the answers.
I use to say the internet is a remarkable tool like the library.
Now, I say that it kills out you in open mindedness. They google and read the first article, compost their homework without looking deeper.
We are currently on the direction to falling to the third world like Africa.
No open intelligence being run by congressmen and ladies, senators, and you know who....
These people should be held accountable to what they have done . They all should wear signs stating their incompetence.
Just like global warming, every one believes without reading further.
Society is doomed.

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Any possible bad science aside, I think the ideas and suggestions to use renewable resources, clean up the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the environment in general, are not such bad ideas anyway. Smile
 
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What do the following things have in common? Out-of-control forest fires, infestations of mosquitoes, hundreds of millions of deaths from diseases that were almost eradicated, skyrocketing gasoline prices, pets being eaten alive by fleas and ticks and the inundation of New Orleans by Hurricane Katrina?

OK, time's up!

These catastrophes were all brought to you courtesy of your friendly neighborhood environmentalists.

Proper management of forests has been stymied by the Sierra Club and others so that logging and clearing of undergrowth has been forbidden in most areas. That is why we now have superfires every year that consume everything in their paths. Never mind that the spotted owl we are supposedly protecting is being fried right along with everything else.

Fleas, mosquitoes, ticks, lice, cockroaches and flies are responsible for millions of deaths each year as the carriers of such diseases as malaria, yellow fever, dengue fever, bubonic plague, typhus, Lyme's disease, Rocky Mountain spotted fever, Chagas disease and asthma. These diseases are back to their historic highs of pre-World War II, and they're beginning to ravage the United States. How can that be?

It's possible because we have let ourselves be bullied by a small group of vocal, self-righteous, wrongheaded eco-terrorists.

Starting with Rachel Carson and Paul Ehrlich in the 1960s, we have let ourselves be conned into believing that pesticides were going to kill all the birds, along with the oceans, that life expectancy in the U.S. would only be 47 years by 1980 and, now, that the Earth is going to be incinerated by man-made global warming. So far, these doom-and-gloom specialists have been spectacularly wrong.

Carson and her ilk on the left claimed that the most effective pesticide in the history of the world, DDT, was thinning bird's eggshells and killing them by the thousands and that it was toxic to humans. Studies have disproved these and other claims about DDT.

And DDT is not only safe, it is cheap, long-lasting and one of the world's best insect repellents. But you can't buy it in this country because the eco-terrorists have succeeded in having it banned throughout most of the world.

What about Hurricane Katrina? During the 1970s, environmentalists saw to it that proposed giant flood barriers could not be built. It is believed these would have prevented the surge from the ocean into Lake Pontchartrain.

And who has been responsible for the liberals in Congress who won't allow oil and gas exploration in 90 percent of our federal lands and off much of our seashores? The same eco-terrorists who have prevented the building of new refineries and nuclear power plants in this country for more than 30 years.

Voila! Skyrocketing oil and gas prices, electric brownouts and a constant money stream to the jihadists who want to murder us!

It is past time for America to ignore the extreme agenda of the environmental movement and return to sane methods of protecting our natural heritage. And to minimize their damage to our great country, we must not elect their enablers from the far left of the Democratic Party to public office. ."
 
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I think the environmentalists crowd are a bunch of self haters. They value animal life over human life. They've gotten to a point that man is responsible for every negative circumstance under the sun not to exclude man-made global warming.Their thought processes are beyond suicidal. I just don't understand why they promote ideas such as saving the planet. Who are they saving it for,such a lowly beast as man?
 
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Though I do not have specific facts, is it not true that some greedy few people are making huge $ with fossil fuels? It seems they would certainly welcome a conspiracy theory.
The actual stastics and their causes may be argued, but openmindedness and honesty will intiuitively show that we are raping our living, breathing Mother.
 
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There are not more polar bears. More polar bears are coming onshore for longer periods, making some of the people who live in those areas think there are more polar bears. Polar bears are starving and drowning (an especially painful way to die).

Environmentalists are hardly the ones connected to big corporations and money--they are the ones fighting the big corporations, who are throwing indigenous people off their land in order to raze their forests and mine their land.

The latest report from the IPCC is that it is happening even faster than they thought. There was one scientist from the IPCC report who disagreed with the others, but you notice he did not refuse his Nobel Prize. Watch Planet in Peril tomorrow night on Animal Planet. And that show is conservative, as it was made by CNN.
 
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After you watch CNN's Planet in Peril tune in to CNN Healine News Glenn Beck. He has the answer's to the global warming stuff.
 
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