You all know global warming is all a crack to scare you. I know we can be a little more earth frendly but every million years or so the earth goes through changes and after the last ice age the earth has been warmint till it will be a big ball of fire till it cools again. This i hope will open your eyes people!!!!!
Well your theory is interesting the only problem is that you have no reasoning as to why the planet would be a "big ball of fire". Global warming is not the earth exploding and turning into fire it is the earth being completely dry, cloud covered, and continuously producing severe thunderstorms. This would be the situation if global warming was to take a drastic step forward.
I agree with both of you. I think global warming is misled, but is happening. First guy is right when he says that every some odd years, the earth gets hotter, but people are blowing all of this WAAAY out of porportion. This one girl is obsessed with global warming and is always like "we've got to stop this guys!!! Did you know that one gallon of gas releases 20lbs of CO2 into the air???" That's true, but did you know that the atmosphere is composed of 0.03% CO2? Also, the emicivity of CO2 is much lower than many of the other greenhouse gasses.
And i agree with guy 2 because i think we are abusing the world. Pollution and deforestation and all of that such stuff we need to stop. But people are making too big of a deal on what cars do to the atmosphere, because globally, they relly aren't making all that much of a difference on thier own. I do think we should use them less though. I mean come on, how bad is walking for your health anyway? But that's a totally different story.
This topic I can get quite passionate about, so if you're looking for a good discussion, challenge me about it, I'll be sure to respond!
Well the thing is Julia, Global Warming isn't just the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere but the series of other devastating things we are doing to the planet. When you say 0.03% of the atmoshpere is composed by CO2 thats true and that increases and decreases yearly, but what throws that out of porportion is this. The population of the earth is approx. 3.2 billion and in the US we have 1 - 7 cars a home each producing 20bls of C02 a galloon like you said...now thats alot. That doesnt include the amount of CO2 produced by coal power plants and coal produces a much larger amount of CO2 then gasoline because it is a pure form. The #1 consumer of coal in the world is China they also have the largest population of about 1.4 billion people. Global warming was never 1 thing it's always been a series of things that have increased everyother.
Well the thing is Julia, Global Warming isn't just the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere but the series of other devastating things we are doing to the planet. When you say 0.03% of the atmoshpere is composed by CO2 thats true and that increases and decreases yearly, but what throws that out of porportion is this. The population of the earth is approx. 3.2 billion and in the US we have 1 - 7 cars a home each producing 20bls of C02 a galloon like you said...now thats alot. That doesnt include the amount of CO2 produced by coal power plants and coal produces a much larger amount of CO2 then gasoline because it is a pure form. The #1 consumer of coal in the world is China they also have the largest population of about 1.4 billion people. Global warming was never 1 thing it's always been a series of things that have increased everyother.
Yeah, I know that there are tons of other factors, however )0.03% isn't enough to make that much of a difference. I still obviously enough don't know the core causes of global warming, more than half the world doesn't along with me, but I'm more than happy to learn about the factors causing this, whatever 'this' may be. I'm just a natural skeptic. But what we all have to ask is, is this really all it's cracked up to be?
Originally posted by kalehungerson: Well the thing is Julia, Global Warming isn't just the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere but the series of other devastating things we are doing to the planet. When you say 0.03% of the atmoshpere is composed by CO2 thats true and that increases and decreases yearly, but what throws that out of porportion is this. The population of the earth is approx. 3.2 billion and in the US we have 1 - 7 cars a home each producing 20bls of C02 a galloon like you said...now thats alot. That doesnt include the amount of CO2 produced by coal power plants and coal produces a much larger amount of CO2 then gasoline because it is a pure form. The #1 consumer of coal in the world is China they also have the largest population of about 1.4 billion people. Global warming was never 1 thing it's always been a series of things that have increased everyother.
My take on this issue is: According to scientists, man has inhabited this planet a very short time and that being the case has very limited knowledge or understanding of it’s cycles or it’s limits. Every day discoveries are made all over the world that some say prove this or that. We know very little what is going to happen next week or next century as far as the climate is concerned. A asteroid or volcano can completely change all variables in any theory, and the key word is “theory”. What I know is, when people claim consensus (in which science is based on fact, not consensus) has been made, and therefore we must all do as he, she or they says, there is inevitably great profit, unlimited power or both at stake. What I also know is that when people start talking about controlling populations, controlling what kinds of vehicles or how many automobiles a person may own or use, it is still - no matter what their intention - a power or a control factor that is still my greatest concern. Freedom is most unappreciated by those who have never had to wish or fight for it. So, to those idealistic college students, to the tree hugging - monkey signing - whale swimming environmentalists and all around nut case activists out there, I say one thing: Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it (just don’t ask me to give my freedoms away).
Originally posted by kalehungerson: The population of the earth is approx. 3.2 billion
That was the population of the earth about 50 years ago, ca. 1960. Today it is estimated at over 6.6 billion.
Nothing personal intended, and please don't shoot the messenger...Just for future reference, getting extremely easy-to-find facts drastically wrong tends nearly always to cast a shadow of doubt on whatever other information a statement may contain and on the credibility of the person delivering it. Just sayin'.
Originally posted by timh1990: You all know global warming is all a crack to scare you. I know we can be a little more earth frendly but every million years or so the earth goes through changes and after the last ice age the earth has been warmint till it will be a big ball of fire till it cools again. This i hope will open your eyes people!!!!!
why do say that this is all to scare us? i think this is good about warning people about global warming wether it be real or not i think it helps because people are getting more interested about earth. so someway it's helping right?
I find it difficult to deny that the increase in CO2 during the last 100 years or so, relative to the highs and lows over the past few hounderd thousand years, is not a problem to look at. The oceans are becoming more acidic and reaching their limits to absorb CO2, acting as a buffer for the atmosphere. You cant deny what is happening to the worlds glaciers. Many large human populations have relied over the centuries, on annual runoff to supply water to the worlds major rivers. We need to continue our intense research into the problem of Climate Change. We cannot afford to make a mistake on this one.
The oceans are nowhere near there limits to absorb CO2. Any absorption there has been has occurred only at the surface. The oceans have about an eight hundred year cycle for absorbing or emitting CO2. This shown by the historical 800 year gap between warming and CO2 increase. The ocean is a very slow moving body of water that will slowly exchange top fluids with bottom by ocean currents.
When debating whether Global Warming is man-made or from a natural warming cycle keep this thought in mind. Man's activities could be accelerating the process. Also keep in mind that this is a process that feeds upon itself... less ice reflecting sunlight means warmer air, more melting ice, etc. Man's activities may not be contributing very much, but with the 'snowballing' effects this process can have... it might not take much to push things a lot further, faster.
ah yes, does man have anything to do with global "warming"? yes. to what extent? very little. there are many reasons for this. 1, co2 is a very weak green house gas. its relation to actual planet warming is so correlational that it is considered poppy cock. infact, if you look at long term data the co2 rise happens after the initial warming. this is for many reasons. warm water holds less co2, warmth speeds chemical reactions, ect. 2, the levels of co2 have been as much as 4 times higher than present in the relative recent past. this coincided with one of the lushest, greenest, wettest times in the planets history. 3, the actual data on the last 10 years is that the
continued.... has had a net cooling period. while some glaciers are in deed melting, others are growing at record rates. the climate is much more dependant on sun activity. infact data shows that the past 3 years have erased the warming of the last century. that is right, we are cooler now then before most people had cars. truth be told, we are now cooler than preindustrial data. 4, this is why the current word is climate "change". yes i took various classes in college on this subject from liberal professors. the thing is folks, science is politics. politics gets you grants. consensus is not equal to facts. consensus equals a flat planet. there is a reason why scientists are pulling out of the un report. the last un summit on global warming had more detractors than supporters. the earth changes, constantly folks. it has been relatively homeostatic for some time now. yes we are junking up our earth, i agree. believe me, we can not destroy life here, even with all the nukes we have. the earth changes. adapt.
It used to be common knowledge that there was a period of about 500 years b/w the 9th century and the 14th century in which the world's temperature raised as much as 2 deg C. This used to be known as the Medieval warm period. This was a time of great wealth and prosperity for many people. This helped bring about the end of the Dark ages, most English castles are built during this time. It was reported there was a population boom brought about to help bring in all the crops that were growing. The ice caps melted and vikings explored the north seas. History was being made and everything was grand. No one panicked. Then "global warming" came along!! Cue the ominous background music. Suddenly this 500 year warm period became a local phenomenon restricted to Great Britain. Also if the temperature rises again we will all die. Global warming is a scam to get your money. So keep buying solar panels and going Green, it stimulates the economy. That is about all. Don't forget to buy tickets to rock concerts dedicated to green living that give their proceeds to global warming research, just forget about the 20 private jets the rock stars took to get there. also check out al gore's carbon footprint it's HUGE.
it is funny just 20 some years ago i remember one of my prof. coming to class late because he was up late the night before talking to other sceintist worring about going back into another ice age again if the temp dropped a few more degrees we would be back in the ice age. isn't the temp suppose to be rising to be coming out of the last ice age? who's to say that all this explorations to the north and south poles aren't the cause of globle warming too, using ice breakers to cut thru causing more surface area for the water to melt the ice. how much co2 is produced everytime the space shuttle is launched. just a thought.
What happening is this, I have seen foggy weather last year, and this year, it's doing the same thing. All fogging a lot. But the freeze and thaw was very subtle this year. What I mean subtle is that it was cold winter stretching right to the point where the earth tipped, and then suddenly, it has become warm that it is melting.
What happening is that we as humans are extracting crude oil and depleting forests, so we can have a clean hole down there, we are sending earth particles which should not be relocated, but we're sending enormous amounts of weights around by doing that, developing. Because the sand from B.C. is being sent to Hawaii because the sand at Hawaii is not suitable for concrete. And the pebbles are being sent to Australia, creating a more wobble to the earths rotation, and all the local developments of cities combined with this sending earth's particles to some other location, besides it's traditional location, is sending dusts up to the atmosphere along with the organic material, such as leaf or whatever microbes that are flying up in the sky, and when we connect both of these, it creates a lot of fog, because this water is evaporating, being attracted by these microbes, it creates a lot of forecast, fooling us to think "Where's all this global warming?" which is a very dangerous attitude.
We are basically boiling ourselves, because water is fluid. Alive like us. It is disappearing, you can even look at pictures of ponds which were taken twenty years ago and compare them to today, and you can see that the depth of water and lakes are receding, evaporating.
I am betting that a lot of cities and regions will be breaking records high this summer, depending on the number of cities developing, and during summer, there are a lot of cities developing at the same time, sending dusts, up into the atmosphere and we think of it as nothing. I am saddened by this, most of earths residents, which thinks that nothing is everything and everything is nothing.
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i kinda agree with u but the sun does have a natrual process of heatin up and cooling down we have done the same thing for decades and it graddully got worce it wasnt like we instantly after we built these power plants and stuff that it happened and its at the same rate gettin worce and we keep doing the same thing ..[green wise].. so thats a good ideal to a fake on global warming
I don't think the intensity of sun's heat has not changed, at least for big enough for climate change, but we have been extracting oil and depleting forests and developing land fairly fast, since Columbus arrived in the new world, hence, the term "Industrial Revolution".
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