i am so proud of myself. i didn't watch tonight and god willing will not watch the reruns tomorrow.. I will not be devistated over this weekend like i will be next week when i watch both of them and cry my eyes out. I have to see mozart one last time. I know i shouldn't watch but i cant help it. I will say bye to her sweet soul and not watch any more after this season. My nerves cant take it no mo...

Death and suffering stinks big time..BOO death

The scene of the Mozart, Kinkajou, and De La Soul grooming each other at the start of the episode is both one of the most beautiful that I've seen on MM.

Mozart has always been my favoret it felt like my heart was being ripped out.As for Kink i still cann't get those pups out of my mind.Woopie who ever she is i just have a gut feeling shes ok.

Poor DeLa Soul the only female pup of Tosca.She was just too young and afraid to make it without Auntie Mozart.I never held bad feelings for Kinkajou as some posting here do.She didn't deserve to die cold and hungry.Her shaking with cold in the morning light was a pitiful site. Mozart has outlasted them for now. I was saddened that her family wouldn't take her back in. The final shows will be hard too. I pray each nite for this tough little souls of the Kalahari.De La Soul you are with mom Tosca agian and Kinkajou you've come home to mom Flower ,all are welcomed there.

I don't know if I can take any more death. I felt so bad for those girls.Watching Kinkajou shiver like that was awful.I had a feeling she wasn't going to make it.So sad. Mozart has been thru everything, now this. The Commandos looked like a bunch of Meerkat Zombies standing at attention! What a creepy bunch. I think Zaphod will meet up with Mozart and give her some comfort. I hope! I'm always exhausted after each episode. I miss Flower and Carlos etc.. Take Care

I already know what next weeks episode holds and as a fellow meerkat lover, I advise ALL of you - TAPE the episode and then come to these boards and read what happened. Then watch it for yourself when you feel you can. I don't know if I will ever be able to watch it. Still Crying for Flower

This is getting soohard to watch. I feel soo bad for these sweet souls.I not feeling too confident for Mozrt(whos my favorite)I swear she's always standing by the sick and injured, but always getting the short end of the stick.I think they should rename the show to heartbreak on the Kalahari

I just hate how the writers of the narration STILL made Kinkajou out to be the bad guy, by calling Kinks and Mozart "former adversaries," and saying that they're "forced to work together." I know that what Kinkajou did to Mozart was harsh, but if they truly hated each other, one of them would move out! Seeing the girls curl up together and groom each other is testament of their love for one another. It's so sad to see Kinkajou die with the burden of being one of the more less-liked meerkats. That, to me, is the real tragedy.

Well, they were former adversaries, but that was a million years ago for them.

I LOVED the way they groomed each other.
The best scene in the whole episode.

I know it is annoying when someone comes to a board and asks an elementary question but I'm doin' it anyway:

I've watched from the beginning but can't recall: Did Mozart ever have one litter that survived and what are their names. They were left behind with the Whiskers right?

Thanks for helping me out. I first saw 'kats in a Smithsonian mag in 1985/86 and have been hooked on them since. I was so happy to see MM, but this season is a tough one.

Our zoo had 'kats for a while and then sent them packing and built a garden or something. I'm not pleased. Luckily I took some photos and can use them as wallpaper and screen savers. The zoo says they are on loan to other zoos, but I don't think they're coming back!

Poor poor Mozart..she was so strong...if only the Whiskers let her back in..

Last night was tough. I think if Flower had still been alive, Mozart would have been taken back in by the Whiskers; if she did it for Axel you know she would have done it for one fo her own.

Dread what may happen next week .

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Originally posted by pronker:
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Sad indeed but true.

Sigh, on the need to rename Dela Soul. Rather distasteful that in her one spot lighted appearance she was given a stage name.
RIP DeLa Soul, daughter of Tosca, granddaughter of Flower.

Pronker

Thanks for verifying the niece and name thing. Wow, Tosca's daughter, now I'm even more upset.Like her mom she died alone.

I don't know where to start. This episode is disturbing in so many ways. I am glad that the whiskers have been doing so well, but it's summer and when fall and winter come with a group that size it will be next to impossible to find food for everyone. I have been praying that Mozart would find her family and rejoing, but I guess that's not to happen either.
When I saw how thin the girls were, especially Kinkajou. When I saw that close up and her collar was sagging and her sweet face thin and drawn, I just knew that she was in trouble. There again Mozart tried to be the comfort to here sister as she has done before.
It has been speculated that part of the Starskys were killed out by TB. If that is the case, no one is safe. TB is a virus that is airborne, there are strains that have turned into a super bug. Most antibotics won't touch it. I just can't imagine what lies a head for our beloved kats. Somehow I think no matter what it is it can't be good. I think back on all that has happened and I am so sad. Is there any justice anywhere in the world? I think not.

Poor Kinkaju, Mozart, and De La Soul!

eruth

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Originally posted by abmatt:
I know it is annoying when someone comes to a board and asks an elementary question but I'm doin' it anyway:

I've watched from the beginning but can't recall: Did Mozart ever have one litter that survived and what are their names. They were left behind with the Whiskers right?

At least two of her young from her first litter are still around: Sophie and Jogu (unless Jogu is Tosca's son), and yes they're still part of the Whiskers.

For all we know, Mozart might not have even recognized the Whiskers. She was taking a very serious gamble in getting too close to them, but at least she tried.

Another sad episode. Sadly, I don't think that poor little Whoopi, who depended so much on her two more experienced sisters, could have survived on her own. Although I doubt that we'll ever know what actually happened to her, all things considered, I think her fate was probably quite grim. As for little Kinkajou, so so sad. Her little body just couldn't take anymore. Watching Mozart all alone now is heartbreaking. I didn't expect it , but I too wished so much that she could have re-united with her family. Mozart may have recognized her family, but her family obviously did not recognize her. I think it had been simply too long since Mozart was last with her family so, to the Whiskers, she was simply another intruder to be run off. Too bad the meerkats don't have a special call that lets other kats know that they are a member of the family.

Earlier when I said that this is not Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, I wasn't trying to be cold and uncaring. I really do care for these animals.
I am an animal lover and am not ashamed to admit that I too cried when Flower was killed by that snake.

As I said earlier, I think this is a great show and I am heartened to see other people feel the same way as I do.
Unfortunately, this world has too many people in it such as a certain football plyer in the NFL who could care less about animals feelings and lives. As sure hope justice is served to that person. Enough about him, long live the Whiskers!

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At least two of her young from her first litter are still around: Sophie and Jogu (unless Jogu is Tosca's son), and yes they're still part of the Whiskers.

Sophie is Mozart's daughter; as you said Jogu is Tosca's.

Also Mozart's pups born on 2/24/06, Miss Lilly the Pink, Ju Drop, Wollow, and Karim, the last 2 being males, are still alive with the Whiskers.

What a loving sister Mozart is. At least Kinks wasn't alone. I was hoping at least Mozart would be able to get back with the Whiskers. They missed out on having such a sweet and compassionate family member.

In the end Mozart was the real leader of the Starsky.

RIP Kink. You were a such a pretty meerkat. i hope you are with all your family members who have passed.

Jeese, now Kinks is gone too? I'm sad for her, really. but I can't help but think the punishment fits her crime of eating mozarts pups.

Poor Mozart. She's been so strong and so resilient. The definition of a survivor.. but the fates just don't favor her. even her old family chased her off like a common stray.

It depressed me, to see the whiskers stuffing themselves while mozart was all alone and starving.

a near record breaking 50 for the whiskers o_o

I'm starting to doubt there'll even be a season 4. Not only are so many people hating the flair and drama of this season, but if i'm not mistaken. absolutely every Kat from the original 2 seasons and even many from the 3rd are dead.

Last week I feel in love with Zaphod. He was always just Flower's mate but I finally got to see his personality and now, I fall in love with Mozart all over again. She has to be Zaphod's daughter, even if not in blood, she has his strength and wisdom. This poor little creature has had such a hard life and has done nothing but care for those around her. No matter how many times that life knocks her down, she always prevails but always ends up alone. It seems so unfair.

I don't know how in the world I can bare to watch next week.

Can we all not ger together and pay to have Mozart flown to Earthlings Meerkat Center so she can live her life out in peace??? I would certainly donate whatever I could. Can't take another sad episode.

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Originally posted by petgirl6:

Good to see you girl! What's really sad is how Kink, and Mozart were at each others throats, but in the end they were all each other had.

Hi petgirl6 - good to see you too! What you mention about the two girls makes them seem even more similar to humans. Sisters in our world often find themselves doing the same thing, fighting and then banding together when things get tough.

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At least two of her young from her first litter are still around: Sophie and Jogu (unless Jogu is Tosca's son), and yes they're still part of the Whiskers.

Mozart's pups that have been shown on MM are Sophie and Spud... Jogu is Tosca's

Mozart also had a litter that wasn't covered by the show... last I knew all four were still alive

Did anyone see the ad about the fire on the Kalahari? I'm so afraid for our beloved meerkats.

All I can say is that I can't quit crying. Mozart has always been my favorite, my heart has always gone out to her but today it is utterly broken. That poor little creature has endured so much.

Poor Mozart! She was the one that sat and comforted Shakespeare when he was bitten by the snake, foraging with him, never leaving him. She was the first individual meerkat to touch my heart. She has always been the gentle, compassionate, caretaker of the Whiskers. I've always identified with her sweet nature and wept for the harshness of her life. She was just too gentle to be a DF.

The marathon/tribute to Flower is on again. I'd like to thank AP for that. Plus thanks to all the posters who have the info on Mozart's children. I hope they show more of them.

and navajo 11, that is such a sweet idea about getting Mozart to Fellow Earthlings.

and fjking0076, i don't think you were being cold. I talked about this on another thread, and after I thought more about it, I understand and even admire the ability to take a step back and be objective--the qualities of a researcher. If meerkats keep leaving us like this, I'll have to learn a better way to cope, too--maybe start learning the lineages and everything.

For now, though, it is a comfort to be back on the boards with all the other caring meerkat lovers.

My tears fell last night, sweet Kinks and Mozart, both appearing near death, but I was also angry! Whoopie.

To have De La Soul in her last moments to be so shamefully dismissed was thoughtless and in my opinion decidedly disrespectful to the viewers and De la Soul. Hopefully AP had a moment of regret and soul searching after giving this name, Whoopie, to our beloved Tosca's daughter.

But something tells me No. ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$s) from celebrity supporters.

I filed my complaint with Discovery last night for all the good it will do.

I, too, don't know if I can take much more of this depression. It seems almost every week except last, there is death all around. I think next week is supposed to be the final & I don't know if I can watch. However, I'm so curious & love the meerkats so much, I'm sure I'll watch it sometime. I know life in the Kalahari is rough, but do we have to see death every week??
P.S. I doubt Zaphod is the rover who visits Mozart, as he's her father isn't he?
God Bless Mozart

Jogu and McMurphy were more of Tosca's children. Sophie and Spud were Mozart's. At least, that's what I think. I beleive Tosca also had children named Flava Flav and Ju Ju Drop. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also, we're not sure if De La Soul (aka Woopie) is dead. I mourn Kinkajou's death. When she killed Mozart's pups, she was only following instincts. I wish we would have had the chance to get to know her better. Mozart is truely a sweetie. Determined, caring and a surviver. She is truely the Princess of the Kalahari. I also hold no grudge against AP. It's not their fault that the girls are starving. I thought they went pretty easy on us as far as that was concerced. If they had not shown that footage, we'd be compaining about them not showing us the real deal or about how they're lying to us.

Attila

Is it just me or have the last few shows been sad, I felt bad for Kinkaju, now mozert is alone, just a sad season. I am not sure what is going on, I also read that Mozert did not make it. Just sad.

SAL

I almost forgot, poor carlos passed on, there is more death on the show this season than the show 24. I just hope for good news.

sal

This was a really tough episode for me, even more so than "Journey's End". At least JE had some happy moments, especially the adoption of Axel into the Whiskers. In "Degrees of Separation", though, the contrast between the Whiskers' life of ease and the Starskys' difficulties was very hard to watch.

Poor Mozart. She has always been my favorite, since she and Tosca stayed by Shakespeare's side after his snake bite. And to witness her increasing desolation as first her niece and then her sister died was so painful. Once she was left alone in the world her only chance was to try to rejoin the Whiskers. It was heartbreaking when they chased her off. Too bad she no longer had the family scent. However, even if she had managed to sneak back in, it is unlikely that Rocket Dog would let her stay.

It looks very bleak for Mozart. I'm afraid to learn what happens to her, as I can't imagine it will be good.

Ayjag

Season 3 has been so hard on me. I cried for Kink. She didn't deserve to suffer, she was so thin and shaking. Perhaps I'm only a smal percentage of those that felt saddness for her. Knowing that she died through the night and over to the Bridge was the realization that the Starskies were truly gone...My only comfort now is knowing she is no longer suffering...Survival is not only about the "strongest" but; also much about chance & luck. Too bad know one was around to help...It would have been nice to see a glimmer of promise after so much sadness in recent episodes, if someone had fed them or a roving male appeared. Goodbye Starkies, Carlos and Kinkjou-may they rest in peace..Hopefully De La Soule (Whoopie) had a better fate, I can only hope...

Mosart-sweet little girl, with such a pretty face. She has/had gone through so much and I've always pulled for her against all hope...all I can say right now, it's just so unfair...

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Originally posted by attila-the-honeypie:
Jogu and McMurphy were more of Tosca's children. Sophie and Spud were Mozart's. At least, that's what I think. I beleive Tosca also had children named Flava Flav and Ju Ju Drop. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Attila

It's not that you are wrong, it is just so many to keep up with.

On 2/24/06 Mozart had Miss Lilly the Pink, Judrop, Wollow and Karim. They are still with the Whiskers.

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Originally posted by anlover60:
Did anyone see the ad about the fire on the Kalahari? I'm so afraid for our beloved meerkats.

Yes, I saw that commercial this morning, & it worried me so much! I really don't think anyone of us could handle anymore deaths of our sweet meerkats this season. I really hope that all of the meerkats survive...I really hope. :-(

One thing I do take comfort in is knowing Kinkaju wasn't alone when she died. Her beloved Sister Mozart was with her. Mozart was truly the caring one.

eruth

I am so, so sad about last night's episode. From reading what others have written here since then, it sounds like Mozart is not going to make it, and it breaks what is left of my already broken heart. I have been crying since Flower's death on the show and cry over these wonderful and amazing little animals at the drop of a hat. I am totally addicted and in love with these little critters and wish like someone else said that we could somehow adopt them and send them to a safe place. Love and kisses to all the meerkats everywhere!

I, too, am thankful to AP for showing us the whole of the meerkats lives, not just the happy part, even though it makes me very sad. How does the saying go--it takes tears as well as sunshine to make a rainbow--something like that.

One thing we can all learn from this, maybe especially you younguns is to take as good care of yourself as you can. Yes, there is much luck and chance in life, but moreso for animals, less so for us. And as our sweet, sweet meerkats are showing us, we must stay as strong and healthy as we can to thrive, and "work well with others," sometimes a challenge.

Yes, seeing the sisters groom each other was sooo beautiful, and yes, how wonderful for Kinkaju, that she died wrapped up in Mozart's sleepy embrace. Many humans don't get that privilege.

I have just read all the forum on the last episode of MM. I am so addicted to MM, but I too am so torn up on the 3rd season. If I had known in advance where the story was going to lead in season 3, I would have never started watching. I don't watch the Discovery Channel nor any of the animal documentaries that show all the killing. I know that is life and I know everyone has to eat, but since it is so hard for me to watch, I am able to change the channel. MM has been an awesome show. Yes, there were some really tough episodes in the first 2 seasons, but never, ever, did I expect what has all happened this season. By the time season 4 finishes, if there is one, no original 1st and 2nd season meerkats will be left on the show. Now I am reading in this forum, not the cheat sheet, that Mozart isn't going to make it, possibly the next episode. I am so tired of crying. In my life, this is really a bad thing for me, watching this 3rd season. However, because I'm so addicted to the show, I can't stop watching it, wanting to know what continues to happen, clear to the end of no more seasons. MM has been a different type of story that has us thinking of these little meerkats as belonging to us on a personal level. That makes their hardships, pain and death so much harder to bear than most of the other animal stories and documentaries. Reading this forum on Degrees of Separation, it has been said enough times, that what ever is left to air of season 3, is nothing but sorrow and more tears. If the research team hadn't been there, all that has happened to our little meerkats, still would have happened. We just would not have known about it or been a part of it. At this point, I wish I hadn't known about the show. But since I do, I'm addicted to the end.

I have been crying since flower died and was so upset and angry that they filmed her swollen face and her suffering. Ok we know she got bit, but do they ahve to show her suffer for God sake. This show has become tragic to me and has actually affected my life. Sounds silly I know. Last nights episode was so upsetting. They had to show kink real thin and dying. I mean could they not have given her a few eggs to help her along and mozart too. I mean they feed them eggs when they weigh them. I watched the marathon today and saw carlos dead too. Squiggy starved to death??
Ok, we all know life and death is life and these guys live tough lives. They can cut out on the depth of the pain we feel from seeing the death by just plain telling us.
Oh, we need closure to see the dead body of our favorite meerkats. Dont think so. They are so good at all the editing they do, they can present it to us in a softer way.
This is my first time venting on MM.
I love the show but cant bare the pain. I am a vet tech of 12 years and I want to save these guys every time I see them suffering. I am very upset they let flower suffer. I have read things hear and there that they tried to help her, well AP is saying nothing about it.
DOnt want to save her an interfere with nature... then euthanize the poor suffering animal. For Gods sake, why did they have to show flowers swollen face. I cant get the horror out of my mind and seeing kink starve to death right before our eyes.

I taped last night's episode and watched it today. Was I the only one who saw the little blurb in the corner that said about a new season starting tomorrow (which, since it aired yesterday, would make that today) at 9?? I have AP on and all that am seeing are old episodes. Am I missing something??

Was it just me, or did anyone else notice that Kink looked already gone when Mozart was huddling her? Mozart, the biggest Heart in the Kalahari. She was ALWAYS my Favorite!!!

Someone else posted the same thing somewhere on this board, maybe even this thread. I agree, after watching a re-run of last night's episode, Kinks did appear to be already gone when they were in the burrow during the storm and into the night. So sad for poor sweet Mozart trying to comfort her sister to the very end. We could all take a lesson away from this.

Yeah, she did look like she was already gone.

Kink was not gone, close to it, you can see her breathing still when mozart snuggled her.

I felt so sorry for Mozart once again in this episode. This poor meerkat has such a hard little life!! Even though I was upset when Kinkajou killed her pups, I didn't want Kinkajou to die! She was all poor Mozart had left! Once again, Mozart is all alone...
I wonder if Flower had still been alive, if Mozart would have been let back in the Whiskers. Guess we'll never know the answer to that one.

I have just fallen in love with these little creatures, and cannot be objective when they suffer and die.
it isn't like watching other animal programs where horrible things happen..yes, they give the animal a name to differentiate it from the others..but the show is only an hour..
MM is a weekly series, not including reruns and marathons..
they just steal your heart.
It's becoming too heartbreaking to watch this "realism" of the hard life on the Kalahari.
I did read on Wikipedia, that Kinkajou died of TB..
but my thought is that it's likely that many critters are exposed to TB, but if they are healthy..they might not succumb.
The Starskys were a very small group to begin with and in a poor foraging area..and poor little Kink was starving and stressed..and so is Mozart.
No matter what Kinkajou did to be the DF..I hate to see any animal suffer like she was..poor little girl.

maybe I'm just so sad over the recent events.. and poor little Mozart...I'm having a hard time accepting these deaths and wonder if it would have been better to end the 3rd season with Flower reuniting with the rest of the Whiskers.
I know it might seem silly..but, I guess I just hoped for a happy ending for our favorites. I'm torn between wanting to know what happened to all of them..and not knowing.
To me..Flower, Zaphod, Mozart and some others that have died or disappeared..ARE Meerkat Manor.
These little creatures are fascinating to watch..if there is another season..I hope it isn't as sad as this one has been.