carlos wasnt aggressive or mean, and im not saying this because he's dead....he was CASANOVA usally casanovas are sweet caring and seductive. skirt chasers *cough cough*
The research project's vet puts the collars on a representative of each mob who is most likely to stay in the mob, hence you usually see them on either the Dom-F or Dom-M.
The collars allow the researchers to track the mob and find them. Mobs usually move burrow every few days unless there are new pups in the burrow. So these collars contain a GPX transponder that gives out a signal, so the researchers can find them.
Hi, Pronker, was that really the Zappa, then? It was jarring, this 3 years dominance thing, when back in jan 07, Lola and Punk were barely 2 years old. The poor little Lola was DF for only about 1 year, and at such young age!
Also about Frank and Houdini, OK, those are not their real names, but are they rovers then? Can they really be related? Obviously they mate with the ZZ females so they are the new succession of native males after the DM dissapeared?
I am so confused about the timeline. Are these events that took place around Jan 2007?
Originally posted by attila-the-honeypie: Why are they still showing the Carlos commertial?!?!? Also, we barely saw the Whiskers! On the bright side... FINALLY, NO ONE DIED IN THIS EPISODE!!!
Exactly, no mention of the boss lady, this promo used to be two part, and I hate seeing either part of it, especially the Carlos part.
Hi, I'm new to this show, & this is my first post here. I just watched this episode (thankfully no one died) & I was wondering about the collars they wear. Who puts them on & takes them off? It seems like whoever is doing it decides who the leaders are, and why do they need the collars anyway? Don't the meerkats try to get the collars off? They don't look very comfortable. Does anyone here have answers or know where I can find out? TIA
Welcome. The people who fit the kats for radio collars (and take them off when appropriate) are the reseachers of the Kalahari Meerkat Program. This is the program from which Meerkat Manor was born. They have been studying the area's mobs for about ten years now. The collars are used to track the mobs. Meerkat mobs move burrows often unless they have pups that are too young to be moved. Without the radio signals that the collars provide, the researchers (and film crews) would be spending too much time simply trying to locate the kats.
As far as the comfort of the collars or trying to remove them, I can't say, although I'm inclined to believe that they don't do much harm. The researchers have been studying the kats for so long that I think they have a good idea of what they should and should not be able to do with the kats.
Thankfully no one died but I still feel terrible about Lola. Poor little thing dragging her weakened body all the way home to the comfort of her family only to be rewarded with a forceful scent marking from her sister. Poor thing had no strength to fight back. She didn't know what hit her!! I'm just glad she's better now.
Welcome to the burrow! The collars are placed on either the dominant male or dominant female of a group by the researchers so they can track the group. The collar is for the researchers purposes only, it doesn't confer leadership on them. The meerkats decide who the dominants are.
Poor Lola. She was to weak to even put up a fight. Just lay there curled up in a protective ball while Punk forced scentmarking on her. I felt really bad for her. But at least she is still with the family. I'm just glad she wasn't forced into eviction. And thankful noone died in this episode.
Although I would have liked to see more Whiskers, I enjoyed seeing Frank and Houdini vie for DM. Their little dance was so cute. Watching Lola's suffering was hard, but at least she didn't die. This was an episode reminiscent of season 1. It was good to learn about meerkat behavior without being shocked.
I just cant beleive what Punk did to her own sister!! I feel so bad for Lola not to mention poor Frank Lola and Frank have been dominate couple for three years and Punk just overpowers her sister and no to mention that Lola was bitten so she was weak. Plus Houdini came back and sent his brother packing for the hills. And the group just sits there and see's Punk and Houdini become dom. couple. Punk doesn't deserve to be dom.F she is to inexperianced just like Rocket Dog. Houdini is tough so he could be dom.M but Punk has no idea how to run a mob. Poor Lola but at least she hasn't been evicted.
Originally posted by melbacake: I reeeeeeally feel bad for Lola. Reminds me of new bosses at jobs who love to rub the nose of the previous boss (who cannot afford to leave) in it.
Yes very sad, reminds me of when Mozart was evicted and trying to make it on her own.
Originally posted by melbacake: Carlos was only wearing a collar when the DF was in dispute (Mozart or Kinkaju), then the collar was taken off of him and put on Kinks.
Yes, Houdini is alot like Carlos, and vice versa but he is alot more aggressive and, too put it carefully, indiscriminate.
Sadly, I never wanted to hate a meerkat and never have before but the look on poor Lola's face was so sad. I dont like Punk at all, sorry but I dont. I know I will be mobbed about this because of the user name I have. I know you all think Kinkajou is horrible because she killed unwanted pups but for all of you Flower lovers, She did the same! Yet you all LOVE her because they didn't show it on TV because it was season 1. Anyways.. Punk totally rubbed it in poor Lola's face just because Lola HER SISTER got bitten by a snake and actually lived therefor was weak. I hope Lola gets stronge and gets her dominance back. Yes Punk is doing the hit and run but its bound to get her back one day. Lola was a much better leader.
Originally posted by attila-the-honeypie: I just saw a commercial for the heart-breaking tragedy that's gonna happen on Sept. 28th! i can't beleive they're already advertising!
I saw part of it; If I remember correctly they show images of Youssarian, Carlos and then Flower but always hit the mute button when they show commercials.
KLinkaju, what's up? Hudinii and Punk aren't that bad! They're younger and stronger, and they could be a great asset for the Zapa. Wich...is...bad. NEVER MIND!
Welcome to the burrow WatchChannel! The commercial said... "What if you lost forever, the one that you loved most? Soon a tragedy will touch us all like never before. And nothing, nothing will ever be the same.
September the 28th, discover the fate of Meerkat Manor. Only on Animal Planet."
I know you all think Kinkajou is horrible because she killed unwanted pups but for all of you Flower lovers, She did the same! Yet you all LOVE her because they didn't show it on TV because it was season 1.
Yes Punk is doing the hit and run but its bound to get her back one day. Lola was a much better leader.
Flower didn't do the same thing as Kinkajou. There are several major differences:
1) Flower was the mother or grandmother of everyone in the Whiskers (except Zaphod). Kinkajou was not the mother of anyone in the Starsky. 2) Flower was the oldest member of the Whiskers (except for Zaphod). Kinakjou was not the oldest member of the Starsky. 3) Flower was the undisputed dominant female for years. Kinkajou had not been dominant before. 4) Flower did not kill any pups directly. Kinkajou killed pups directly. 5) In abandoning her daughter and grandchildren, Flower was not making a power play. In eating Mozart's pups, Kinkajou was trying to become Dominant Female.
... and if I'm not mistaken, Lola and Punk are littermates, so it's not as if Punk is overthrowing someone more experienced while she's down.
I also don't agree that Lola was a better leader than Punk. We don't have a clear idea of who is better for the Zappa until more time passes. However, I'm inclined to believe the writers' assessment this time around. The Zappa are getting more food. And even if Punk and Houdini's tactics do lead them to conflict earlier than the Zappa would have otherwise, being in better health and facing a struggling (and possibly divided) Whiskers, they have a chance to come out of it in a better position than before... for the first time in a long time. All Frank and Lola did in their conflicts with the Whiskers was lose territory.
Meerkats do indeed separate themselves from their family and wander off to die and perhaps that is what Lola was doing, but she started to recover and began the long journey home. She would not stand a chance out in the desert all alone for long, so she went back to her family
And the Punkster saw her limping and pounced on the chance to knock her sister off the throne and steal the crown of Zappa.
But there have been other instances where a dominant bit by a snake takes time to recover and then jumps right back up on the throne, casting off anyone who gets in their way.
I think that Houdini and Carlos, as strong young males..seek out females to form a family..to become DMs... so Houdini is now what he wants to be..
I did feel SO sorry for Lola..poor little girl.. not the welcome she'd hoped for while struggling to get home.. but as another posted said..no room for weakness on the Manor. and Punk did lead them to food and new turf.. should be interesting where this leads for them and for the Whiskers.
glad there weren't any deaths this eppie. tho they did rerun eppie 5, and had to watch poor Squiggy scream for attention.. poor little critter..
question..what did ever happen to Tosca? wasn't she exiled at one point by Motzart?
to the above question..I don't think the researchers choose dominants..I think they watch what unfolds and it becomes obvious which ones become dominant,,then they are collared.
10) Already crying 3 minutes into the show: (a record) poor Lola!!!! 9) Houdini has HUGE ummmmm guts for going into the Whiskers burrow...I can't believe it... 8) Sooo funny...Punk could not get anyone to listen to her the first time she tried to get the group to go out... 7) POOR LOLA!!!! She looks so sick....so much effort to walk...but wait...she's making it back to the burrow... 6) OMG...Punk is giving her the evil eye...oh no...she's running toward her....Punk is sooo kicking her when she's down... 5) Houdini returns to a hero's welcome...high fives all the way around for scoring 2 Whiskers DF's... 4) Poor Frank!!!!!! (the Starsky needs DM) 3) Thank God Lola is getting stronger...she may be okay... 2) Still nothing on the Starsky and Kinko's pups.. 1) The heavens are opening up: EVERYONE LIVES, EVERYONE LIVES!!!!!
OH, YEAH....one more I forgot, which is the other most important point, so I guess I have 11....DREAMTEAM OF DF & DM = VERY BAD NEWS FOR THE WHISKERS...
