So this is directed too those that are employed by the ICR or have first hand knowledge of the corporation and the nisshin maru and her harpoon vessels.
It is well known that your ships are armed, as seen by the rifles used to kill whales, and the flash bangs used in the first season of W.W .
So if the Steve Irwin is such a terrorist ship with terrorists aboard it, why have the crew not opened fire or stopped the Steve Irwin out at sea before hand ? If military grade vessels have been escorting the fleet before why did they not stop the S.I at that point in time.
With all the threats constantly thrown on this forum about how it is wished the ICR would go ahead and do something, I am just wondering, why have they not pushed harder in their Government way when this all first started to put an end to it ?
I mean if the ICR is okay with murdering defenseless whales, it should be just as easy to murder defenseless people at sea.
then the world would see the sea sheperds view of the whale hunt and it would be the world vs japan. japan needs to play there cards carefully not kill people that get in there way
Originally posted by FLUSA: So this is directed too those that are employed by the ICR or have first hand knowledge of the corporation and the nisshin maru and her harpoon vessels.
It is well known that your ships are armed, as seen by the rifles used to kill whales, and the flash bangs used in the first season of W.W .
So if the Steve Irwin is such a terrorist ship with terrorists aboard it, why have the crew not opened fire or stopped the Steve Irwin out at sea before hand ? If military grade vessels have been escorting the fleet before why did they not stop the S.I at that point in time.
With all the threats constantly thrown on this forum about how it is wished the ICR would go ahead and do something, I am just wondering, why have they not pushed harder in their Government way when this all first started to put an end to it ?
I mean if the ICR is okay with murdering defenseless whales, it should be just as easy to murder defenseless people at sea.
I don't know about "honorable", but the use of force is a hot topic in Japan. They are not the United States that takes pot shots at starving pirates on the Mediterranean and proceed to act flippant about it. The decision to send what amounted to some construction workers to Iraq nearly caused a riot in their parliament -- and it didn't even have to do with the legitimacy of that war (also openly disputed). Human life and non-aggression are valued by the Japanese public -- certainly more than Sea Shepherd can ever claim.
Originally posted by FLUSA: So this is directed too those that are employed by the ICR or have first hand knowledge of the corporation and the nisshin maru and her harpoon vessels.
It is well known that your ships are armed, as seen by the rifles used to kill whales, and the flash bangs used in the first season of W.W .
So if the Steve Irwin is such a terrorist ship with terrorists aboard it, why have the crew not opened fire or stopped the Steve Irwin out at sea before hand ? If military grade vessels have been escorting the fleet before why did they not stop the S.I at that point in time.
With all the threats constantly thrown on this forum about how it is wished the ICR would go ahead and do something, I am just wondering, why have they not pushed harder in their Government way when this all first started to put an end to it ?
I mean if the ICR is okay with murdering defenseless whales, it should be just as easy to murder defenseless people at sea.
how do you "murder" a whale?
People armed with acid are not defenseless. They wouldn't have to worry if they didn't attact the defenseless whalers.
The Japanese aren't out to murder other people.Even if Paul Watson orders a RHIB into the line of fire of a harpoon just as it is launched would not be proof of intent to kill any RHIB crewmember who got shishkabobbed. The DA would have to prove that the harpoon guy got up that morning with the intent to "Next time I see one of those sea shepherd so and so's in front of the boat,I'm lettin' him have it.I swear I am." Murder is the intentional preplanned killing of another human being.Killing a whale,deer,rabbit or other critter is hunting and legal within the prescribed season and bag limits. I can say why the Japanese ships haven't used any firearms that they may have on board against the sea shepherds. The water monitors,nets and LRADs are doing the job nicely enough without resorting to higher levels of force.What they are doing is appropriate enough for responding to the sea shepherds. Now,if the sea shepherds were to take a page from all the posts of "Use the helo and drop bottles of BA on them..." that would be a different thing. I doubt the helo pilot is gung ho enough to want to risk being able to fly because some twit doesn't understand the risk of dropping things from an aircraft.
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Originally posted by FLUSA: So this is directed too those that are employed by the ICR or have first hand knowledge of the corporation and the nisshin maru and her harpoon vessels.
It is well known that your ships are armed, as seen by the rifles used to kill whales, and the flash bangs used in the first season of W.W .
So if the Steve Irwin is such a terrorist ship with terrorists aboard it, why have the crew not opened fire or stopped the Steve Irwin out at sea before hand ? If military grade vessels have been escorting the fleet before why did they not stop the S.I at that point in time.
With all the threats constantly thrown on this forum about how it is wished the ICR would go ahead and do something, I am just wondering, why have they not pushed harder in their Government way when this all first started to put an end to it ?
I mean if the ICR is okay with murdering defenseless whales, it should be just as easy to murder defenseless people at sea.
Originally posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat: They are not the United States that takes pot shots at starving pirates on the Mediterranean and proceed to act flippant about it.
Originally posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat: They are not the United States that takes pot shots at starving pirates on the Mediterranean and proceed to act flippant about it.
What incident are you referring to with this?
Sorry, Indian Ocean -- not Mediterranean. And I'm speaking of SEAL snipers taking out 3 pirates.
The reality is that, if these boats being attacked were American you'd see an immediate response from the American government and military. Paul Watsons' flimsy bullet proof vest would do nothing against a M82A1.
Originally posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat: They are not the United States that takes pot shots at starving pirates on the Mediterranean and proceed to act flippant about it.
What incident are you referring to with this?
Sorry, Indian Ocean -- not Mediterranean. And I'm speaking of SEAL snipers taking out 3 pirates.
The reality is that, if these boats being attacked were American you'd see an immediate response from the American government and military. Paul Watsons' flimsy bullet proof vest would do nothing against a M82A1.
i don't think they were pot shots either.
The pirates actually live pretty well, it is hte rest of that country that is starving.
Originally posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat: They are not the United States that takes pot shots at starving pirates on the Mediterranean and proceed to act flippant about it.
What incident are you referring to with this?
Sorry, Indian Ocean -- not Mediterranean. And I'm speaking of SEAL snipers taking out 3 pirates.
The reality is that, if these boats being attacked were American you'd see an immediate response from the American government and military. Paul Watsons' flimsy bullet proof vest would do nothing against a M82A1.
Oh you mean the "starving" pirates that boarded an American vessel under threat of violence with the intent to ransom the crew and vessel, stole the money that was on board and kidnapped the captain. Those poor "starving" pirates, Americans are such meanies.
You didn't explain where they acted flippant about it.
This is why you have been accused of trolling, you start a thread with inflamatory statements. You fail to defend your post, position. You posted to another thread and started another thread two hours after this one. I can only assume by these actions you are simply trying to stir the pot.
