I seriously doubt you'll ever see gunfire on WW. The more likely scenario for the upcoming season is that the Japanese will send a coast guard vessel to escort the fleet. The SS folks will not mess around if there is a sheriff in town. (To use a wild west expression!)
So the SS will just trail the fleet and send out their helicopter and boats to take pictures. But the SS won't throw anything or try to ram anyone. Because then the Japanese would be justified in using force. And despite all of their rhetoric none of the SS crew, including PW, are actually willing to give up their lives (or their freedom) to save whales.
Originally posted by JessicaRabbit279: I fell in love with this show the first day I saw it, and cried when it was over!!!! Can't wait until it comes back on!!!
White Whale wrote: I seriously doubt you'll ever see gunfire on WW. The more likely scenario for the upcoming season is that the Japanese will send a coast guard vessel to escort the fleet. The SS folks will not mess around if there is a sheriff in town. (To use a wild west expression!)
No, they’ll mess with them too.
Example: Canadian seal hunting season, 2008. The Farley Mowat rammed the Canadian Coast Guard Ship Des Groseilliers after it warned them that they were trespassing on the hunting grounds and moved to intercede.
Originally posted by sagebrush57: Yes, and we all know how THAT turned out...
Yes, turned out excellent for the Sea Shepherds.
Yup, they lost their boat, and peter pubestache got convicted.
Yes, they seem saddened...
In short, they stole our ship without a hearing or a trial and without any charges laid against the ship or the owners (i.e. Sea Shepherd) of the ship.
Not that we were overly upset about it. We had stripped the ship of most of its valuable equipment prior to undertaking the voyage into the ice. We had plans to retire the Farley Mowat. The annual cost of maintaining the ship was becoming a burden for the Society and the ship did not have the speed that we needed for many of our campaigns. Added to that is the fact that de-commissioning a ship is very expensive.
We saw the risk of losing the ship as worthwhile in relation to the benefits of publicizing and dramatizing the slaughter of baby seals in Europe at the same time as the European Parliament was debating the ban on Canadian seal products.
My reasoning was that we had an 80% chance of losing the ship during the 2008 seal campaign, that the loss of the ship considering her age and annual maintenance costs and the benefits of publicizing the seal slaughter would be worth the risks.
Thus we put a Bre’r Rabbit strategy into play and in the process thoroughly confused the bureaucrats of the Canadian Department of Fishy Business. They did not know if we wanted the ship back or did not want it back. They arrested a ship of Europeans at the same time Europe was debating the seal product ban (smart move Loyola Hearn – very well played I must say). They wanted me, but I was conveniently not onboard the ship during the arrest, being a Canadian and thus more vulnerable to prosecutorial persecution. They seized 20 crew and arrested only two officers, one Swedish and one Dutch who they then deported to prevent them from defending themselves. We retaliated by releasing the lawyers because there was no use spending money on legal fees if the defendants were not allowed back into the country.
In the end, the Canadian government has spent over a million dollars on this fiasco and in return they now have a white elephant of a ship they can’t seem to get rid of, a conviction of two crew which is essentially meaningless, and they now no longer have a commercially viable seal slaughter.
The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society on the other hand has found an inexpensive way to decommission a ship, a ban on seal products, and flattering headlines denouncing us for interfering with a seal slaughter, which was our intention in the first place.
Originally posted by sagebrush57: Yes, and we all know how THAT turned out...
Yes, turned out excellent for the Sea Shepherds.
Yup, they lost their boat, and peter pubestache got convicted.
Yup, and lost all expenses related to the ship also. Damn shame to lose expenses for maintenance on an aged ship.
What expenses? We all know these guys haven't put money into their ships. They just slap a sign on the engine that say "Don't turn on!", then spend 250,000 dollars on a hanger for the helicopter.
Originally posted by sagebrush57: Yes, and we all know how THAT turned out...
Yes, turned out excellent for the Sea Shepherds.
Yup, they lost their boat, and peter pubestache got convicted.
Yup, and lost all expenses related to the ship also. Damn shame to lose expenses for maintenance on an aged ship.
What expenses? We all know these guys haven't put money into their ships. They just slap a sign on the engine that say "Don't turn on!", then spend 250,000 dollars on a hanger for the helicopter.
Well, that is just the dumbest statement I ever heard. It costs more to care for a ship than it does a car, and between insurance, and maintenance, I spend quite a bit on my car.
How would they get to the whale sanctuary without turning on the engine?
And the hanger for the heli was to stop corrosion from salt water, perhaps you need to do some research before posting.
Originally posted by sagebrush57: Yes, and we all know how THAT turned out...
Yes, turned out excellent for the Sea Shepherds.
Yup, they lost their boat, and peter pubestache got convicted.
Yup, and lost all expenses related to the ship also. Damn shame to lose expenses for maintenance on an aged ship.
What expenses? We all know these guys haven't put money into their ships. They just slap a sign on the engine that say "Don't turn on!", then spend 250,000 dollars on a hanger for the helicopter.
Well, that is just the dumbest statement I ever heard. It costs more to care for a ship than it does a car, and between insurance, and maintenance, I spend quite a bit on my car.
How would they get to the whale sanctuary without turning on the engine?
And the hanger for the heli was to stop corrosion from salt water, perhaps you need to do some research before posting.
Maybe you should watch the show before getting snotty with me. In the last season you can clearly see in the engine room of the SI a sign on an engine,(not the engine) that clearly states."Do not turn on". My point is all money should first go to the ship before any ancillary operations. It appears that PW is more interested in new fancy toys than the basic maintenance and upkeep of his ship. I can't wait to see the half a$$ job they do on the hole and fatigued supports. My guess, Duct tape. Does anyone know the ice rating for duct tape?
