so yes this in reply to the what good has watson done thread ,,,,
I retort with what good has the ICR done ??
SO Truthfully, what have they done ????
I don't care if you dont have a ton of links to back up your facts, just what you honestly know that the ICR has done to help the environment through their research ??
It should be simple enough to answer since there are tons of comments on the negative terroristic acts of the Steve Irwin and P.W . .
I figure since there is what seems to be overwhelming evidence that the SSCS is nothing but a terrorist moronic organization that there should be tons of reports of all that the ICR has done to help protect the environment through lethal and non lethal research.
The ICR isn't out to "do good" or "protect the environment". The ICR is out to prove commercial whaling can continue. Because Paul Watson and the SSCS operate under the lie that they're doing good it doesn't mean that the ICR has to.
Your idea that they have to "do good" or "protect the environment" doesn't apply to them. With that said how do you come to your conclusion that there should be "tons of reports of all that ICR has done" for those ends?
I think you're just asking a baited question or at least attempting to ask a baited question and failing. Were the ICR dedicated to saving the environment I'm sure they'd be working on that and have plenty of proof of what they're doing. But they are not and no amount of you saying they have to means that they actually do.
Among other things, they don't try to sink ships by ramming. They employ people , not charge them to do all the work and take all the risks. Just a few things.
The ICR takes money from the taxpayers to subsidize the hunt to see if they can keep hunting and depleting the oceans. That is their job.
They are not there to do any good for people, or the environmentl. The exception is the people who's pockets are being lined with the money made from the selling of the meat.
OK, here's a good one...The ICR, isn't a terrorist organization! They don't fly pirate flags! The ICR dosent go around throwing bottles of acid at hard working people. They work for the common good, not for their own glorification.
The threads you mention are already suspect because of their source. The damage to the GP ship is centered on the bow, how can a ship ram another ship with it's side? That is like the NM backing up to ram the SI! It aint plausible!
The threads you mention are already suspect because of their source. The damage to the GP ship is centered on the bow, how can a ship ram another ship with it's side? That is like the NM backing up to ram the SI! It aint plausible!
Simple, as an example if you were driving at normal speed down the highway and you saw me at a stop sign. You are uncomfortable with me not remaining stopped because I moved a few feet into the intersection, so you slow down. Then at the last minute, I illegally try to cross the intersection with you bearing down and finally you T-bone me. Who is to blame? Yes you rammed me, but that point is irrelevant. I clearly caused the accident. And if I did it intentionally and you were injured, then I would be subject to civil liability, perhaps criminal, depending on my motives and frame of mind.
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Touchy, touchy today, huh steelpeeler52? Just trying to get your little brain to understand how the AS could ram the NM and it still be the NM's fault. Maybe everyone understands that but you.
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The threads you mention are already suspect because of their source. The damage to the GP ship is centered on the bow, how can a ship ram another ship with it's side? That is like the NM backing up to ram the SI! It aint plausible!
Simple, as an example if you were driving at normal speed down the highway and you saw me at a stop sign. You are uncomfortable with me not remaining stopped because I moved a few feet into the intersection, so you slow down. Then at the last minute, I illegally try to cross the intersection with you bearing down and finally you T-bone me. Who is to blame? Yes you rammed me, but that point is irrelevant. I clearly caused the accident. And if I did it intentionally and you were injured, then I would be subject to civil liability, perhaps criminal, depending on my motives and frame of mind.
This is a lame argument. There are no stop signs in the ocean and no intersections to inch into. You are really reaching on this one. I have made my point before, but I will restate it again. If a group, on one or more ships. Goes thousands of miles out to sea, for the stated pourpose of interfering with another fleet. Then they loose all rights to claim being a victim. The AS had been manuvering at close range as to interfear with the operations of the NM. I sorry but GP is at fault. There is no need for COLREGS or symantics. When you drive a ship that close to another. There is a good chance of a collision. You keep beliving what you want, but there it is for what it's worth.
Still have the mental density of depleted uranium awaken?
You add a lot of nothing to most discussions. try posting links to unbiased informative sites! I will leave the reply's in areas that I am not versed in to the knowledgeable people in this forum, you aren't any of them!
I state my opinion, I am allowed to do that, you, tom, and animux post a lot of propaganda, unfounded innuendo, and supposition from individuals, organizations that cant see past their own narrow views of the issues! When those positions are refuted or openly opposed, you all start screaming foul like a school yard bully when his victims stand up against him!
You do nothing but bolster my opposition to you, watson , greenpeace, and all other organizations like them.
