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I trust that the IMO are viewing this closely and ensuring that the Sea Shepard retrieve any bottles/projectiles that may not have made onto the whaling boat and disposed of them correctly.

IMO waste disposal regulations are serious and carry hefty fines. I also trust that the garbage logs show this disposal.
 
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"The question about what you can do in Antarctic waters is a critical one. Now, Japan sends a very large whaling fleet to Antarctica each year. We're talking upwards of six, seven, eight vessels, including whale sighter vessels, whale harpoon vessels, factory ships, resupply vessels, refueling vessels.

So it's a big operation that's going on down there. And arguably — in fact, I think very strongly arguably — Japan is not complying with its environmental obligations in Antarctica in relation to refueling or any of the other ancillary matters connected with the whaling.

So even if you put whaling to one side, right — even if you disregard what Japan's doing with the whaling — all the other stuff that you have to do to maintain a whaling fleet in Antarctica is arguably not compliant with the law.

" Japan's not telling us what the environmental impact of its activities is, not preparing contingency plans, just not communicating with the international community generally, and it's a big concern. "
 
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Originally posted by Oztom:
"The question about what you can do in Antarctic waters is a critical one. Now, Japan sends a very large whaling fleet to Antarctica each year. We're talking upwards of six, seven, eight vessels, including whale sighter vessels, whale harpoon vessels, factory ships, resupply vessels, refueling vessels.

So it's a big operation that's going on down there. And arguably — in fact, I think very strongly arguably — Japan is not complying with its environmental obligations in Antarctica in relation to refueling or any of the other ancillary matters connected with the whaling.

So even if you put whaling to one side, right — even if you disregard what Japan's doing with the whaling — all the other stuff that you have to do to maintain a whaling fleet in Antarctica is arguably not compliant with the law.

" Japan's not telling us what the environmental impact of its activities is, not preparing contingency plans, just not communicating with the international community generally, and it's a big concern. "


Where in your post do you respond to the OP statement? Looks like a deflection to me because you already know the answer and don't want to post it.
 
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Where in your post do you respond to the OP statement? Looks like a deflection to me because you already know the answer and don't want to post it.




It’s not a deflection at all, it’s because I don’t know.

But I do know what the Japanese don’t do, not like the anti SS just throwing accusations around.
 
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You can see some of the photos showing materials that SSCS litters into the ocean.

http://www.icrwhale.org/gpandsea-geiken435.htm

Pic 1 is the chemical, presumably, a bottle of butyric acid.

Pic 9 shows a fishing net that SS threw away to break the screw.
 
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It’s too hard for me to know what it is as I don’t read Japanese.
 
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It’s too hard for me to know what it is as I don’t read Japanese.


Again, which is why I explained in English. Don't blame your incompetence on others, please.
 
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It’s too hard for me to know what it is as I don’t read Japanese.


There out there if you care to look for one you like. I use whole page translators provided by Google. Sometimes the translation will make you laugh and other times you'll scratch a bald spot trying to understand the meaning because of syntax. I visit many international pages that don't provide an English version.
 
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They are both most likely littering out there...
 
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It is pretty obvious that the SS litters the ocean they are in. They do it with toxic acid, old ropes, "unbreakable" ropes, They dump their waste i the ocean and burn their trash on deck
 
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Are you saying that whatever damage the sea shelherds inflict upon the environment is okay by you because they are doing what they can to stop those evil,nefarious
Japanese research vessels from killing whales?
That's what I get from this post.
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Originally posted by Oztom:
"The question about what you can do in Antarctic waters is a critical one. Now, Japan sends a very large whaling fleet to Antarctica each year. We're talking upwards of six, seven, eight vessels, including whale sighter vessels, whale harpoon vessels, factory ships, resupply vessels, refueling vessels.

So it's a big operation that's going on down there. And arguably — in fact, I think very strongly arguably — Japan is not complying with its environmental obligations in Antarctica in relation to refueling or any of the other ancillary matters connected with the whaling.

So even if you put whaling to one side, right — even if you disregard what Japan's doing with the whaling — all the other stuff that you have to do to maintain a whaling fleet in Antarctica is arguably not compliant with the law.

" Japan's not telling us what the environmental impact of its activities is, not preparing contingency plans, just not communicating with the international community generally, and it's a big concern. "
 
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Are you saying that whatever damage the sea shelherds inflict upon the environment is okay by you because they are doing what they can to stop those evil,nefarious Japanese research vessels from killing whales?
That's what I get from this post.




You got it in one.



For the photos though. It shows a broken bottle of something on rug, a slick of something in the water next to the Japanese whaling ship, and a very valuable rope in the water that the SS are shown to always retrieve.


Wow big stuff.
 
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Don't forget the other prop foulers that are require rope. They do not retriece those,
Or the toxic filled bottles or "slicking agent"
 
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Well in all fairness anyone who watches WW can clearly see episodes from it is either one or two of the ICR dumping whale waste into the ocean which is a clear violation of IWC regulations, so maybe there can be a double trial, fine the SSCS for littering bottles of rancid butter into the ocean and fine the ICR for violating IWC regulations.

and if you want proof go look it up yourself.
 
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Originally posted by Oztom:
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Originally posted by doughesson:
Are you saying that whatever damage the sea shelherds inflict upon the environment is okay by you because they are doing what they can to stop those evil,nefarious Japanese research vessels from killing whales?
That's what I get from this post.




You got it in one.



For the photos though. It shows a broken bottle of something on rug, a slick of something in the water next to the Japanese whaling ship, and a very valuable rope in the water that the SS are shown to always retrieve.


Wow big stuff.


Well not always, the prop fouler has been picked up atleast three time by the whalers. It's still getting picked up none then less.
 
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