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The alternative to what Sylvester Stallone rightly calls Fatkins - try this new diet - Lose Fat And Gain Muscle - with no energy loss.

http://www.thepaleodiet.com/ Smile Smile

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Thank you for a very good post. It's nice to have adult discussions about important issues, isn't it?

Part of losing 110 lbs. (so far) has been using inulin in the form of Fiber Choice sugar-free assorted fruit or orange flavored tablets, which also helps increase fiber intake as well as add an important prebiotic to my diet.

Lactobacillus and Bifidobacteria have been shown to:
    Enhance the immune system
  • Help with digestion by improving gut integrity and maintaining normal intestinal flora
  • Decrease episodes of and minimize viral and bacterial diarrhea
  • Inhibit the growth of many harmful bacteria and yeast, including those that cause food-borne illness like E.Coli, Staphylococcus, Salmonella, and Listeria.
  • Help produce nutrients, especially B vitamins and digestive enzymes


I also have a bowl of (1/3 cup) Kellogg's All-bran (bran buds variety, same consistency as Post Grape Nuts, instead of twigs) with a cup of Stonyfield Farms Organic Whole Milk yogurt, which contains an additional four important cultures, in addition to the two normally found in yogurt.

Between the prebiotics and probiotics, I figure I've got it about covered. Plus, it's the best-tasting yogurt I've ever had, by far.
 
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I posted a nice reply yesterday, I'm not sure why it didn't show up. Here it is again;
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Thank you for a very good post. It's nice to have adult discussions about important issues, isn't it?

Part of losing 110 lbs. (so far) has been using inulin in the form of Fiber Choice sugar-free assorted fruit or orange flavored tablets, which also helps increase fiber intake as well as add an important prebiotic to my diet.

Lactobacillus and Bifidobacteria have been shown to:
    Enhance the immune system
  • Help with digestion by improving gut integrity and maintaining normal intestinal flora
  • Decrease episodes of and minimize viral and bacterial *skitters
  • Inhibit the growth of many harmful bacteria and yeast, including those that cause food-borne illness like E.Coli, Staphylococcus, Salmonella, and Listeria.
  • Help produce nutrients, especially B vitamins and digestive enzymes


I also have a bowl of (1/3 cup) Kellogg's All-bran (bran buds variety, same consistency as Post Grape Nuts, instead of twigs) with a cup of Stonyfield Farms Organic Whole Milk yogurt, which contains an additional four important cultures, in addition to the two normally found in yogurt.

Between the prebiotics and probiotics, I figure I've got it about covered. Plus, it's the best-tasting yogurt I've ever had, by far.
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*skitters = Scottish euphemism for "hershey squirts" (I think that's what hung up the post yesterday)
 
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Look at the person who is either promoting the diet or the one who wrote the diet - if they do not look like what you want to look like - dont even try the diet. Atkins slipped on ice in NYC in the middle of April - ice in NYC in the middle of April - yeah right.
 
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That's the dumbest idea yet. "The Cover Photo Diet." It doesn't take into account the difference in body types, climate, level of activity or anything else in the "real world."

Do you only buy books with pictures of authors who look like they know how to write?

As for Dr. Atkins' death: now you even complain about the way he died?

On April 8, 2003, Atkins slipped and fell in front of his medical office in New York City and sustained major head injuries that put him in a coma. He never recovered from his injuries, and subsequently died on April 17 of kidney failure.[3] By mistake, the New York City Medical Examiner’s Office released Atkins' medical records to the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, a group associated with PETA and which advocates a vegetarian diet. The record stated his weight to be approximately 255 lb (116 kg) at the time of death.[2] In terms of simple height/weight measure (BMI), this would mean he was obese; the apparent irony of a diet guru being obese caused the information to be circulated around the world by the media and animal rights groups, much to the distress of his family. Later, it was shown that he weighed only 196 lb (89 kg) upon admission to the hospital indicating that apparent increase in weight was probably due to fluid retention following the failure of his major organs."

According to an investigation by NBC's "Dateline", that lie is the result of vegetarian activists misleading the public by leaking a faulty coroner's report. Some highlights:

"...They're the vegetarian Taliban. Oh, I mean, I shouldn't insult vegetarians. But they're like the Taliban, these people. They're nasty.”

Dr. Stuart Trager was an associate of dr. Atkins for three years. He insists this vegetarian group is trying to destroy Atkins’ reputation to promote its own agenda.

Dr. Trager: “Here's a group of people who compare eating cheese to heroin, feeding children meat to child abuse. They don't think anyone should eat animal products. And it's clear they'll go to any extreme, any extreme, including giving out records, breaking ethical violations to try to convince people.”

Also in the same report:

"...Atkins’ widow insisted that the weight on the leaked medical examiners report was the result of fluids pumped into him during nine days in intensive care as his life slipped away, a claim supported by numerous independent doctors we spoke with. Mrs. Atkins says she remembers this unnatural swelling all too well.

Veronica Atkins: “My husband was so bloated. He had very slender hands. And when he was in this bed, his hands were like ham hocks, this big. He was bloated, he did look like a balloon.”

And Dr. Atkins' hospital admissions form seems to back her up. It shows he was a technically overweight but not obese 195 pounds. That was also born out by Dateline’s visit with Dr. Atkins six weeks before the fall that killed him. He was an active 72-year-old, big, but not bloated and hardly obese. ..."

Here's a screenshot from the program of Dr. Atkins' hospital admission form:



This is a screenshot of his death certificate, ten days later:



If you look closely, you can see the dates for yourself. It proves that he gained 63 lbs. in ten days! That's not the result of obesity, that's from bloating caused by the medication they gave him in an attempt to save his life!

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Coming from someone like you I guess that would be a dumb theory.
I wouldn't go to a pauper to learn how to be rich
I wouldn't go to a fat person to learn how to get in shape - reality sx eh - face it - your a bad example.
 
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People, please try to keep the discussions mature. This is an importantg topic that we can all debate without resorting to playground arguments. Thanks!
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Behave like an adult - I am not hitting you on a personal level - I stick to the topics - try it in your arguments - but results are results - Atkins couldn't achieve them. As a side note here - when he was in the hospital his wife is trying to say he gained over 63 pounds from an IV - more specifically a TPN - if that were true the hospital should have been sued for neglect. Each patients fluids are measured how much fluid went in and how much is micturated. But I'm sure you knew that.
 
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My mother, who had cancer at the age of 45, went into the hospital a very skinny woman. I went to see her 3 days later and her skinny, cancer eaten arms, were as big as my thighs ... as was the rest of her body. She weighed many more pounds laying in that bed than she did when she was admitted. She died the next day. So, I've seen it with my own eyes that folks tend to swell up when they're dying as the organs stop functioning and they cannot excrete fluids. The IVs are continued to keep the family calm and to keep them from panicking that their sick are starving or thirsty. They can't just unhook the IVs and throw in the towel. They have to comfort the dying and keep the panick level down ... NO MATTER if they're excreting fluid or not.
 
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