Originally posted by shawdust: Listen to me everyone. I know what I am talking about. The Big Pharmacutical Industry has discovered the goose that lays the golden eggs. If one in three Americans will be diagnosed with cancer this year, why on earth would Big Pharma, the FDA and our corrupt government want to cure anyone of cancer when there are billions upon billions of dollars to be made off Chemotherapy drugs? Wake up everyone!! You're being lied to. And you're being brainwashed into thinking that chemotherapy will extend quality of life, when the truth is, it does not. Why after 35 plus years since Nixon was President, haven't they found a cure for cancer? Because, do you know why? Because they are not looking for one. Most people that die from cancer, do not die from their disease. They die from the chemotherapy drugs first. WHY why would an Oncologist give his patient something that shuts down the immune system in the body to cure a disease? We all need to wake up here! We are being brainwashed! Were being lied to. Big Pharma, The FDA and our own government are compromising human life over money. Money is MORE important to them. That's SICK. There are several alternative methods that have been proven to cure cancer in our bodies. The only reason they are not on the market today is because the FDA won't approve them to work because there isn't the amazing amounts of money to be made on them. That's the only reason. Money. More people die from chemotherapy drugs than they do from the disease itself. I'm not out of my mind. I KNOW what I'm talking about. But, were all too brainwashed to think outside the box and that is exactly what Big Pharma and our corrupt government wants us to remain thinking. Think about it...one months supply of chemotherapy can run as much as $80,000.00 and has a 3% cure rate. One months supply of an alternative drug called Cesium Chloride with Potassium will only cost you about $64.00 and has a 50% cure rate. Come on people!! We need to wake up!! Are youy going to keep letting you and your loved ones continue to die from orthodox methods or are you going to step outside of the box and find out the REAL truth with what is REALLY going on and make your own decisions
Thaonks for your information.I just want to know if Cesium Chloride with Potassium is equally applicable for treating any type of cancer and where it is available. I'm from India.Surely it's not available in India.
My wife had AML. I searched for any alternative treatment except chemotherapy, because I was biased against chemo from the very beginning. I didn't get any. I came across two types of alternative therapy available in India: one is based on Aurvedic system of medicines another is called "Biological or Cellular Theraphy". But in their menu AML is not included. So I've to revert to the inevitable chemo as BMT and other methods were not applicable in view of her being sixty four in age.
Initially, the oncologist himself was skeptic about her cure. Because of her gae she was given five days of chemo instead of standard seven for younger patients. She responded to the drug very well. In the induction phase itself the bone marrow was in remission.Subsequent five consolidations cured her completely. Since Nov. 2006 she is not under any medication. Her blood counts are perfectly normal.
During the course she didn't have all the side effects the oncologist mentioned except a few spots on her body, loss of appetite and loss of hair.
One more plus point is that earlier she had some asthma like symptoms.She was dependant on inhaler. Now all hecking cough is gone, no difficulty in breathing and no need of any medicine.Even doctors agree that her case is a bit unique in their experience.
Could it be that different people react differently to the drugs? My bias against chemo is eroding. what you would say?
Your moderator here. I'm starting to see conspiracy-theory attacks here against the conventional medical establishment, the pharmaceutical industry, the American Cancer Society, et.al. If you're going to make an accusation against somebody--i.e., that the drug companies don't really want to cure cancer--you need to back it up with some facts.
Here's the reality: As this article from Medical News Today details, the overall five-year survival rate for cancer patients has risen signifantly since the mid 1970s, from 50 percent to 65 percent. In the case of prostate cancer, for example, five year survival rates have improved dramatically over the last 20 years, from 67 percent to the high 90s today. If there was some sort of conspiracy to suppress cures and make money off treatments that didn't work, these numbers wouldn't be improving, would they?
One of the main reasons cure rates have improved over the last few years is because of early diagnosis.
PSA(prostate specific antigen) has been a tool for the early diagnosis of prostate cancer. People that 30-40 years ago would have presented with more advanced disease are being diagnosed at earlier stages. The overall result is that more prostate cancer is being discovered at earlier stages and the cure rates are better because these people live longer. But, most oncologists agree, many of these patients are not getting a better treatment but rather living longer because of early diagnosis. Others would benefit from early diagnosis. The exact numbers of each group is not known.
But, there is a bigger problem at hand. The number of prostate cancer cases is increasing and the age at which the diagnosis is made is also seen at an earlier age than before. This is happening for most cancers seen in the United States and my opinion is that the causes of cancer such as pollution and stress are causing an increase in cancers which are also seen at an earlier age.
This is also a similar phenomenom which is observed in all other diseases: more numbers of cases seen at earlier and earlier ages.
From PubMed, here's a link to the abstract of a 2003 article by two oncologists who say that in addition to more early diagnosis of prostate cancer, there's also been a fundamental change in the way prostate cancer is treated. As they explain,
Treatment of prostate cancer increasingly involves an approach that combines local therapies directed at the primary tumour together with systemic therapies to potentiate their effect and to control subclinical metastatic disease. Patients with localised tumours who are at high risk of relapsing with radiation therapy alone are surviving longer because of the addition of adjuvant hormonal therapy. Although a survival benefit in similar patients undergoing prostatectomy has not yet been established, preliminary results indicate that adjuvant hormonal therapy delays relapse.
I haven't been able to find an authorative source on this, but I wonder to what extent, if any, the increase in diagnoses of prostate cancer among younger men is due to increased testing of younger siblings of prostate cancer patients. From Duke University Medical Center, here's an article in which Dr. Judd W. Moul, Duke's chief of urologic surgery, argues for setting a lower PSA threshold for men under 70, in hopes of spotting prostate tumors earlier.
Although prostate cancer is not a more rapidly growing disease in men under 60, identifying more cancer among this age group is an important quality of life issue, Moul said.
"Prostate cancer in young men is not more aggressive, but guys in their 40s and 50s are so young that they have an additional 30 to 40 years to be concerned with this problem," he said. "That's why we recommend an active treatment approach in younger men."
In 2000 when I was eleven he was diagnosed with Stage IV metastic colon cancer, had spread to his liver. The diagnosis was dismal at best, but he proved everyone, including his doctors, wrong. He told me recently that he had made up his mind when he was diagnosed, that he was NOT going to die, that he would live to see his children grow up. Despite all odds, after chemo, removal of part of his colon, and a liver resection, he is cancer free and has been for several years. His doctor calls him his "poster boy"...and I can think of no other word to describe his recovery besides "miraculous". He is a true example of strength, and what the willpower to live and fight along with committment to treatment can do.
Oh har har. I simply got tired of listening to them "tell me" I'm going to die. I've outlived I think 3 or 4 "death sentences" already, including one more or less self imposed. Best I can figure, "Heaven won't let me in, and Hell keeps throwin' me back."
I reall don't mean to offend, but that's where I'm at...
Wow I've been reading more posts... you guys are freakin' me out...
Hey "Hemlock"draw... what would you say if I told you I'd recently turned myself into a "vampire"?- but only in the clinical sense of course. I did it on the WAY to the hospital for etc work, so lttle documentation, but... Saw your post on miracle cures but the machine won't let me respond personally please write me at chrisfurney@yahoo.com
Moderator- Sorry about the conspiracy theories ma'am I just read the news and transcribe the Bible into "modern-ese" sometimes. I AM an art historian and am trained and certified in this area. (Especially the "pitchers", hahaha The degree is Indiana Jones' degrees' "pretty sister"). BA, 1996, UO, Gold Key, copies avail. But I do apologize again.
The Good Doctor Victor A Marcial-Vega- Love your work. Please contact me at above if you'd like to discuss my case or much else further. I imply no responsibility whatsoever, I assure you.
What I dropped in for is to say that it's so hard not thinking very largely about the beneficial virus concept. If you plug it in to whatever you want in history, all the tumblers click suddenly. It WAS a revelation- that was like putting a nickel in the slot machine and having the red light on top come on, quarters start flying everywhere, and girls come over with drinks and stuff and start congratulating you... It was one of those- I have the odds at some 10^16, but find out later I have about 10^9 in "prerequisites".
What this does, sociologically, is mean that all religions really are the same. It means that no matter whether you believe in the Book of the Dead, the Koran, the Talmud, the Bible, a 12th century vampire recipe or nothing at all, the theory still fits. That there is really no reason for all these different religions and all these different factions and all these constant chronic religious wars, at all. Because they're all, just like my "translation" of Leviticus 1 thru 14, really just different ways of saying exactly the same thing. Which is that God loves us and He would even give ME back not only my life, but maybe a whole lot more. Much less problem with giving it back to YOU. Haha, the only reason I can figure why God didn't decide to just go 'head and waste my punk <expletive> is that "TB is a rich kid's disease."
Sorry I always get so wordy. I just wanted to quote the late great Janis Joplin in saying,
Sorry I'm always so flip and never reference my sources, hardly, except for the national academy of sciences quote, the thing from Am Journal of Gastro, and wikipedia...
I'm using Zondervan's New International Study Bible for a desk reference on the Christian part, I'm far more learned in the bible than the other references. The most accurate and up to date translations that I know of that exist are available online, free, at http://www.watchtower.org/ look for the "Read The Bible Online" thing.
The Fellowship has a small town in the midwest somewhere, a strong bottom line of which is to accurately transcribe the Bible. ACCURATELY, and not necessarily what King James wanted to hear. They consider it a strong religious duty, they'll come and read it to you if you ask. The "Faithful Slave", that way. Dead Sea scrolls and all that great stuff. Me, I'm a trifle "worldly", (but I sure seem to have changed a lot lately), I'm not currently affiliated. I believe in almost seven billion slightly different "perfect religions"... and counting. Chris
Thanks for the nice statement. No doubt it's universally true: It's easy to kill ,difficult to heal.
I'm basically a nonbeliever, though casually I read the Bible and the Koran and many other religious scriptures.
I haven't come across any instance of hatred in the Bible, though someone, I know, scooped out dirty things in the Bible as well. But in the Koran I think there are many instances of hatred mentioned. It appeared to me that even a non believe (Kefir) is to be hated, just because he/she is hated by the Allah himself.
For me even a nonbeliever can nourish universally accepted positive thoughts that helps in every situalltion. For that it may not be necessary to lean on scritures. But I'm not averse if someone cannot do without the prop of any scripture.
