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To be honest it’s been so long ago that I’m not 100% sure but I believe the episodes in question were-
Rockies episode (pilot)-
Moab desert-
Mount Kilauea-
European Alps-
Deserted Island-
Thanks. I'm pretty sure I saw the Desert the Island one redone, because I specifically remember them inserting the "I'll receive some help from the crew" line when building the infamous preconstructed raft. And I think I remember seeing the Rockies too. But, you're right, I don't think I ever recall seeing the Hawaii one! lol
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You may remember me from the last time you were here when I went by backcountry164. In fact I believe it was you who came up with one of the best, shall we say, “nicknames” that I have been given here, brokebackcountry. No hard feelings of course, things do tend to get a little heated around here and I probably deserved it, besides it was pretty funny, lol.
Hey, alright! I thought that might be you. Glad there was no hard feelings. None on my end either, brother.
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I believe his exact words were “under the stars”. Who knows what this means.
It is a bit open ended...
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You can give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that means in his shelters but I won’t. I have some experience sleeping in the bush and the things I see on the show lead me to believe that this does not happen very often, if at all.
*shrug* I'm a tent camper. Nothing extreme. But, until I hear/see otherwise, I'll admit I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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You’re right, I have no desire to debate each and every instance but I will mention one. In the VERY FIRST “transparent” episode to air (Sahara) he builds a little fire and then settles in for the night. ...When I watched the episode I noticed two things. First (as is always the case) BG didn’t have enough wood to last even an hour let alone through the night. Second, when they showed the fire pit the next morning there was NO white ash and many small pieces of charcoal.
Actually, I think I was still around when that came up. I kinda remember it. All I'll say is that, your questions are valid, but I simply don't think there's enough there to draw any conclusions. You said you can think of no other explanation except that the fire was doused shortly after starting and therefor he didn't spend the night out. Well, I can.
First, since the show is still based on the illusion of being alone in the wilderness I find it quite believable that they never show Bear gathering enough wood for the night because it would make for "boring" television and/or the rest of the crew helped gather wood for themselves and Bear after the cameras stopped rolling. Second, we know that they often show stuff out of order. It is highly possible that, for whatever reason, the fire they used to get the charcoal from was indeed a fire they specifically lite for the face painting demo. Or, any of a bunch of other possibilities.
Of course, none of that may be true and you may be right. But there's no way to know.
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My point is that many people still believe that BG is actually out there going from point A to point B over the course of the program; the only thing that has changed is that they understand he has help “if needed”.
My overall view of the realness (or fakeness) of the show is currently thus: I believe Bear is really doing the things he is shown doing. I believe he hikes around the wilderness. I believe he eats bugs and animals. I believe he makes climbs and rides on rafts and swims in rivers and drinks his own urine. And for me, that's enough reality to enjoy the show.
But I don't believe he is actually "surviving" out there. I understand he is using safety gear. I understand he has a big crew with him planning out stunts. I assume they scout out routes and locations. I understand that they try and maintain the illusion (even while being honest about the fact that it is only an illusion) of being alone. But until they start using stunt doubles for Bear, I'm cool with all that.
Fair enough? Sound reasonable? Or do I sound like a deluded "fan"?
