The 50 Caliber machine gun should have undoubtably been number one. I would never go to war without being behind this bad boy! You should redo this show and add it to numero' uno!! Thanks for mentioning the AK47. It is the bread butter of machine guns.
wow, you have no idea what you're talking about... Yes, the .50 is an amazing weapons system that was designed so well in the beginning that it's needed very few changes over the years, and yes it's versatile. that said, it doesn't mean that it deserves the top spot. Also, calling the AK47 a machine gun? dude, grow a brain, then start talking again
Try carrying one strapped to your ALICE pack for 10 klicks and see how much you like it then.
Luckily you are not carrying it by yourself. But just the receiver itself is no punk b to hump. Only 10k? Try the MCCRS during work up for float. 26 mi. Not fun. Not fun at all.
Try carrying one strapped to your ALICE pack for 10 klicks and see how much you like it then.
Luckily you are not carrying it by yourself. But just the receiver itself is no punk b to hump. Only 10k? Try the MCCRS during work up for float. 26 mi. Not fun. Not fun at all.
I humped that dammed thing more miles than I care to count. I humped it more than I fired it. I carried extra gear because punks fell out. While I loved being a 31, I do not miss it,,,,, too much.
There is a mentality in a weapons company that you do not see much else where. Even in the SOF community.
Yep, 10 clicks at Camp Scwab Okinawa, originally supposed to be a 30 click hump, that days temperature shot up around 100 degrees and got black flagged.
Sorry for my ignorance (having never served in the military), but is a "click" a kilometer? Does the U.S. military use metric system measurement unlike the U.S. civilian population? It would make sense as it'd be easier to interface with NATO allies that way.
Originally posted by ian22: Sorry for my ignorance (having never served in the military), but is a "click" a kilometer? Does the U.S. military use metric system measurement unlike the U.S. civilian population? It would make sense as it'd be easier to interface with NATO allies that way.
The military uses metric system for distances and some measures (gun calibers).
Originally posted by ian22: Sorry for my ignorance (having never served in the military), but is a "click" a kilometer? Does the U.S. military use metric system measurement unlike the U.S. civilian population? It would make sense as it'd be easier to interface with NATO allies that way.
The military uses metric system for distances and some measures (gun calibers).
Jeez, that was a fast response! So is a "click" a kilometer?
As for ammo designation, I should've figured that. We don't call it .223 caliber, we call it 5.56 x 45 mm!
Typical, you seem to be the person to ask. I know you haven't seen the hardware, but in principle...
The XM312 is a .50 BMG weapon that weighs 30 lb with a 10 lb tripod. On the downside, the ROF is only 320 rpm. Would something like this be good for a Marine weapons company, to replace the M2?
Originally posted by Bob Lyle: Typical, you seem to be the person to ask. I know you haven't seen the hardware, but in principle...
The XM312 is a .50 BMG weapon that weighs 30 lb with a 10 lb tripod. On the downside, the ROF is only 320 rpm. Would something like this be good for a Marine weapons company, to replace the M2?
I would guess that since .50cal's are not typically used agianst personnel but bigger targets, that the lower RoF in the XM312 is not necessarily a liability depending on the intended use. < RoF helps to increase accuracy.
A yes, I spent a lot of time humping those hills. The WPNS runs on the beach were worse IMHO.
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Would something like this be good for a Marine weapons company, to replace the M2?
I guess it could. While RoF really does not affect who or what you engage with the duce (Firing on the mount with a T&E keeps it pretty stable), Yes RoF can and does affect accuracy, but I really do not call 600 RPM a high rate of fire anyway.
I could see it as a good thing. But at the same time. Simply being lighter really does not give us much (Right now anyway), you are only going to see heavy guns on trucks, and fixed sites (heavy gun being defined by caliber not weight). Now having a lighter weapon may allow you to attach them to a squad in direct support, and allow them to be mobile with them, but then you still have to worry about humping all that ammo. That stuff is not light.
I will try to read more up on it and see what I can say then.
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But also be aware that .223 IS NOT the same thing as 5.56mm NATO. Very similar, yes, identical, no.
Yup. the 5.56 is loaded to a much higher chamber pressure than the .223. You can safely fire .223 from a weapon that is chambered to .556, but not so much in reverse. Weapons chambered in .223 can not reliably handle the higher pressures from 5.56. Then you have different projectile types as well, but we can count them in anyway.
After a quick look at some of the specs. The 312 seems to have a RoF of 260 RPM not 320. If you fire at the Rapid rate of fire (120 RPM) you are expected to conduct a barrel change after two minutes (that is a lower rate of fire than for the SAW before it needs a barrel change). I do not know if you are required to set headspace and timing as you are on the Duce. But if you are, you would NOT be able to change barrels in the middle of the fight.
I did not see a T&E in any of the schematics or pictures, so I guess you are expected to free gun the whole dammed time.
IDK boys. It may be nice to have that kind of firepower attached from a WPNS PLT directly to the squad, but you would loose A LOT of firepower at the same time. You wold be eating up your 31s by feeding them the 312, then you would have to rely on your SAWs for high rate of fires, because you would not have enough 31s to attach out to run 312s and 240s.
I think one of the advantages with the new gun was you didn't have to check headspace with barrel changes. IIRC it's also fully compatible with existing mounts.
I think one of the advantages with the new gun was you didn't have to check headspace with barrel changes.
I would be VERY interested in knowing how they figured that one out. Headspace is a huge thing when you operate at those barrel pressures. And yes the rumors are kind of true. Too much headspace and you can pop (not explode, but pop) the feed tray cover off, and too little and you can damage the chamber and bore (not blow up the barrel).
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IIRC it's also fully compatible with existing mounts.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are, the pintles should be exactly the same. The only differences would be the tripods, because the one for the 312 is lighter than the M21 tripod.
Headspace and timing should not be an issue, since swapping the barrel (and the bolt, and probably the feed paul) gives you a 25mm auto GL in less than a minute.
I had not thought about the T&E, but I am not a professional. I do understand that M2s are used in A-stan off the tripod, well off road, and I thought losing 100 lb of weapon and tripod would be helpful. If there were no other show stoppers.
Headspace and timing should not be an issue, since swapping the barrel (and the bolt, and probably the feed paul) gives you a 25mm auto GL in less than a minute.
Yeah, well I still do not see how it can not be an issue. But I haven't seen TM for it yet. We will see.
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I do understand that M2s are used in A-stan off the tripod, well off road, and I thought losing 100 lb of weapon and tripod would be helpful. If there were no other show stoppers.
Yeah we do free gun much of the time. And a lighter weapon would help out in some areas, I just want more information on it so I can see all. Ya know.
Try the MCCRS during work up for float. 26 mi. Not fun. Not fun at all.
