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I was wondering how the British AS-50 compares to the Barrett 82A1/M107? IS the AS-50 a superior weapon or are they equals?

I have seen both episodes and Mack seems inpressed with both rifles, but which one does he feel is the best.
 
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Great question! Mack touted the accuracy and reduced recoil of the AS-50, but it sounded like words out of a sales brochure. I'd like to see a side-by-side shooting comparison of accuracy and recoil.
 
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barrett is cool cause it is US made and has 10rd mag.
 
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It dosent matter what contry its from but accurucy,power,distance,and design.
 
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The AS-50 does boast near bolt action precision, but we need to see results of that, possibly in a multitude of calibers like, .308,.338,and .50, and not just in indoor controlled conditions, but obviously outside, we need almost mythbusters type comparison. The Barret XM-107 is a great rifle nonetheless, and a large capacity magazine is favorable in all situation. I hope to see field tests with AS-50 vs the XM-107 as well.
 
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When I mean a multitude of different calibers, i mean different sniper rifles like the Arctic Warfare Magnum, M40 or M24 sniper systems, and other bolt action systems, and even the Walter WA2000 which is a semi-automatic .308
 
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I was wondering the exact same thing. Does Mack have a place we can post him questions? He's shot both guns and I think he liked the Barrett M107 better based on comments he made but he was positive about both. Does anyone remember if he said the weight of the Barrett? I think he said the AS50 was 26 pounds. About 20 more pounds than my .308.
 
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I was wondering if the armour piercing rounds used by the AS50 were made from depleted uranium? Just curious. If not, what materials were used?
 
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I would like to see them throw in a Dragunov SVD, just to see what he has to say about the competition.
 
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Wonder how it compares to the XM-109 Payload Rifle for range and accuracy. Lethality is supposedly 2.5x 50cal due to it's ability to penetrate hardend targets.
xm-109
 
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I was interested to see how many folks wanted to know if the AS-50 compared to the Barrett 50.
Was I the ONLY one who saw Mack hit the target at 2,ooo yards? 2,000 yards!! 6,000 feet!!!

I've always prided myself at being an above average shot with a rifle; open sights and scoped, I can 5X my target 9 times out of 10 out to 200 yds and 400 yds respectively. My "missed shot" is always on the rim of the 5X.

But 2,000 yds is INSANE!!!! (I was going to send Mack an e-mail and call him a liar - but I'm afraid he'd find out who I am.)
 
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I wonder 1) How many shots did it take to hit the target? 2) How big was the target?
AI touts this as a 1.5MOA gun. A 1.5MOA gun can only be expected to hit a human size target(19.5"wide) 7 out of 10 times at 1241yds.

1 MOA ∙ 2π ∙ 3600 inches∕21600 = 1.0471 inches
1.5 MOA = 1.5708 inches @ 100 yards
1.5 MOA = 19.5 inches @1241.4 yards

Even a 1MOA can only be expected to hit the average human at 1860 yards(ish) or 1700 meters

Either way it is far superior to the M107 which is a 3MOA gun. The max range of a weapon is always shooter dependant.
 
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I was wondering if the armour piercing rounds used by the AS50 were made from depleted uranium? Just curious. If not, what materials were used?

They are not DU. They can penetrate over 3/4" of steel @ 500y . Where as the SLAP rounds(which the M107 can't fire) can penetrate 1.25" of steel @ 500y.
 
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wilwith1l, it's rea ssuring to see another person who actually has good data...

Ratings for SLAP and AP being very close to what I have researched as well as experienced, I'm betting it was mild steel they shot at in the AI course of fire given the distance and seperation of plates. At that distance 1/2 inch hardened steel likely would of defeated API
 
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Anyhow, most interesting thing about the AI50 is appears to be a very close relative to an accurized AR15/AR10. Direct impi ngement action by the looks of the close ups shown in the episode, all that is left to be questioned is bolt and carrier design which looks atypical.

Also, the other precision forums are a bu zz about the mas sive amount of flex in the sight base. If you didn't see it look for it in a re-run, the base for that scope flexes BIG TIME. Hopefully that's titanium and not aluminum so that the base won't experience a failure as-sociated with fa tigue life. Also, that poor S & B scope is likely getting bea ten fairly good.


Anyhow, it is very nice to see somebody who is discussing the math and probability behind connecting with shots OUTSIDE OF the advertised effective range of the rifle.


Ignore the strange spaces in certain words, it's due to the forum censorship filter seeing bad words when none exist.
 
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wilwith1l, nice to see somebody who has some information that appears to come from actual hands on experience.

I doubt very much that the steel they were shooting in the segment was hardened armor grade steel. If it was the 2nd plate likely wouldn't have been pen.etrated, 1/2 inch of hardened steel at that range likely would of been enough to stop the round. Don't have any experience with SLAP but I do with M2 AP.


Also nice to see somebody realistically discussing the math and probability of connecting with shots OUTSIDE of the round's effective range. Something that only long range shooters tend to recognize in the first place.
 
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I think the Barrett M107 is better than the AS-50. I am wondering if any of you know if you can shoot SLAP rounds thru it.
 
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I would like to see them throw in a Dragunov SVD, just to see what he has to say about the competition

It doesn't. The Dragunov is 7.62x54mmR. The above weapons are 12.7mm. I'm sure either ArmynurseBoi or Typical could give you better information on it. The ones (SVD) I fired in the past were nothing to brag about, had a noticable recoil and a heavy trigger pull, it rattled alot (not good for a snipers rifle).
 
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