Bear Grylls was injured on Friday night while on an independent expedition in Antarctica. He was not filming for Discovery Channel, but was taking part in a sponsored expedition for Ethanol Ventures to promote the potential of alternative energies such as bioethanol. The expedition was raising money for Global Angels, an international charity that champions the needs of children worldwide and that Bear has supported for the last few years.
While on location, Bear sustained a fall that resulted in a shoulder injury. Bear is currently on route back to the UK to get the medical attention he needs. Once he sees a doctor, we will have a better sense of the level of seriousness of his shoulder injury and the recovery time needed to get him back to his full physical activity. Bear has a strong religious faith and a loving family to help speed his recovery. Our thoughts and prayers are with Bear as he makes the long trip back to the UK.
Oh my goodness! He broke his clavical! Is he okay! Is he gonna still film? Eh...he'll be fine! He's tough ! He survived a broken back(I don't know how, maybe God loves him or something!) Eh...He'll be fine! It's not his first injury(or last!)
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What does Bear know by demonstrating that if you get lost or forced to find your way out of a place that is isolated from civilization back to people by following a river, or walking in the right direction based on the sun's location. I mean, it's not like I've ever done what survivor man has done. Survivorman is by all means a much better example of survival skills by being dropped off in some location and setting up camp for 7 days until they pick them up again. Oh wait, I have done that... in the cubscouts earning my camping badge. Except my parents didn't have gps to locate me back in those days. I guess setting up camp, playing hunter gather, and waiting for the crew to find him using GPS is scary. This is by no means a hit on Les Stroud. I think his demonstrations, which show long term survival, compliment Bear's demonstations of self dependence to find your way out. I have a high respect for both.
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I don't mean to sound like the typical Bear hater, but..
Is it any surprise he got hurt? Seriously- He is constantly doing unneccesary physical feats- like sliding down snowy hills, jumping into bodies of water, even doing a summersault landing in the sand from like ten feet up!
If he behaves ANYTHING like he does on the show, it's no surprise he got hurt. Honestly.
Originally posted by MvW_Mod_Melissa: Statement from Discovery Channel:
Bear Grylls was injured on Friday night while on an independent expedition in Antarctica. He was not filming for Discovery Channel, but was taking part in a sponsored expedition for Ethanol Ventures to promote the potential of alternative energies such as bioethanol. The expedition was raising money for Global Angels, an international charity that champions the needs of children worldwide and that Bear has supported for the last few years.
Are you serious?
Ethanol?
There are plenty of studies that show us that the process of production of these "biofuels" uses even more energy and oil to be created, that the crops for ethanol (most of them genetically modified) are competing with the crops of alimentary production (for land, water, nutrients) and that to fulfil the goals for the use of these "biofuels" the USA is not big enough so it has to be done as well in Latin American countries with the support of BIO, Monsanto, Amyris Biotech and many other transnationals and their expertise on nanotechnology, biotechnology and synthetic biology...
Should we be concerned about his injuries or the unfavorable and negative effect both on the planet and ecological diversity the production of Ethanol is causing?
Ok.....being a lifelong outdoors woman all my life. I always loved both shows; Survivorman and Man v. Wild. However, that being said, Man vs. Wild is a bunch of BS. No one in a real survival situation would jump ravines, get into a freezing river to "float downstream" (think hypothermia and getting caught on a rock and the force of the water pushing you under to drown), free climb huge rock faces where one slip would mean falling to your death or at least breaking bones. Oh, and as far as the "horse" thing goes, I have owned and trained horses for 25 years and if those horses were wild then I have some swamp land to sell you. Bear lost a lot of respect when he deceived people the first couple seasons into thinking he was doing so much of this stuff on his own. We found out later that many of these situations were "staged". Like throwing the stick and killing a rabbit. The rabbit was tethered down by the leg. Also trapping rabbits in snares (he never caught one). People should realize that real survival is not easy and glamorous. Now I have no doubt with all Bear's training he could survive in a real life and death situation. However, he wouldn't be climbing 40 feet into a tree and pole vaulting down a cliff face.
Les on the other hand is the real thing and he is man enough to show both his successes and failures. I love to watch him because he is himself and doesn't act like he knows everything and isn't afraid to try something he has never done before. He is so humorous. Yes he is basically self-taught but that is the best way in life to learn anything. You can read books, attend classes, lectures and go to special schools all you want, but until you get out there and get practical experience it doesn't matter. It is just like most of us who have a job every day. The school of hard knocks teaches you more than anything else. Learn by doing. And I love the fact that Les goes it alone. Carrying all that camera gear and filming everything himself is exhausting. (Oh yeah, forgot to mention, I have worked as a professional sound engineer and have my own videographer company called Inspired Creative Services so I know what it's like to carry equipment and film and record...it isn’t easy...and yes I learned to be a sound engineer by working around it since I was 15 and I am 50 now. That school of hard knocks works well). Of course, Les is not going to have the energy that Bear does because of this. Also, he is actually trying to teach you how to survive in real life situations when you are out there alone and lost.
In short, Les is my favorite because he is real and does it all himself. I still like Bear but I find myself not nearly as excited about his show since it has been revealed how much help he gets from his crew. He doesn't build things by himself (readily admitted since they were caught deceiving viewers); shelter, rafts, tools, food (most of the gross dead animals he eats are planted for him). And much of the live insects, meat, grubs, etc he eats would make you sick because it they are filled with parasites. You should always cook food unless it is a last resort. I'm sure he takes plenty of antibiotics to kill the parasites he ingest. Not smart. He does spend the night in hotels many times and films in not so remote locations on some occasions. That disclaimer about situations being set up has basically turned me off of Bear. However, I don't want people to think that he doesn’t have real skills. Obviously he does. But the program is no longer exciting to me because there is no spontaneity to it. I watch it when I can but no longer set my TIVO to record it because I can't wait to see it. It just did something to me when I found out so much was staged. Bottom Line:
Survivorman is true reality Man vs. Wild is strictly entertainment
why are my posts being deleted? there was nothing but the truth. If dchannel was so interested in censoring then it would be a disclaimer at the beginning of the show to tell everyone that bearcub has a whole camera crew and stays in a hotel if it gets too rough.
Originally posted by wynnbeez: Ok.....being a lifelong outdoors woman all my life. I always loved both shows; Survivorman and Man v. Wild. However, that being said, Man vs. Wild is a bunch of BS. No one in a real survival situation would jump ravines, get into a freezing river to "float downstream" (think hypothermia and getting caught on a rock and the force of the water pushing you under to drown), free climb huge rock faces where one slip would mean falling to your death or at least breaking bones. Oh, and as far as the "horse" thing goes, I have owned and trained horses for 25 years and if those horses were wild then I have some swamp land to sell you. Bear lost a lot of respect when he deceived people the first couple seasons into thinking he was doing so much of this stuff on his own. We found out later that many of these situations were "staged". Like throwing the stick and killing a rabbit. The rabbit was tethered down by the leg. Also trapping rabbits in snares (he never caught one). People should realize that real survival is not easy and glamorous. Now I have no doubt with all Bear's training he could survive in a real life and death situation. However, he wouldn't be climbing 40 feet into a tree and pole vaulting down a cliff face.
Les on the other hand is the real thing and he is man enough to show both his successes and failures. I love to watch him because he is himself and doesn't act like he knows everything and isn't afraid to try something he has never done before. He is so humorous. Yes he is basically self-taught but that is the best way in life to learn anything. You can read books, attend classes, lectures and go to special schools all you want, but until you get out there and get practical experience it doesn't matter. It is just like most of us who have a job every day. The school of hard knocks teaches you more than anything else. Learn by doing. And I love the fact that Les goes it alone. Carrying all that camera gear and filming everything himself is exhausting. (Oh yeah, forgot to mention, I have worked as a professional sound engineer and have my own videographer company called Inspired Creative Services so I know what it's like to carry equipment and film and record...it isn’t easy...and yes I learned to be a sound engineer by working around it since I was 15 and I am 50 now. That school of hard knocks works well). Of course, Les is not going to have the energy that Bear does because of this. Also, he is actually trying to teach you how to survive in real life situations when you are out there alone and lost.
In short, Les is my favorite because he is real and does it all himself. I still like Bear but I find myself not nearly as excited about his show since it has been revealed how much help he gets from his crew. He doesn't build things by himself (readily admitted since they were caught deceiving viewers); shelter, rafts, tools, food (most of the gross dead animals he eats are planted for him). And much of the live insects, meat, grubs, etc he eats would make you sick because it they are filled with parasites. You should always cook food unless it is a last resort. I'm sure he takes plenty of antibiotics to kill the parasites he ingest. Not smart. He does spend the night in hotels many times and films in not so remote locations on some occasions. That disclaimer about situations being set up has basically turned me off of Bear. However, I don't want people to think that he doesn’t have real skills. Obviously he does. But the program is no longer exciting to me because there is no spontaneity to it. I watch it when I can but no longer set my TIVO to record it because I can't wait to see it. It just did something to me when I found out so much was staged. Bottom Line:
Survivorman is true reality Man vs. Wild is strictly entertainment
If you are going to preach then get your facts straight. Anti-biotics kill bacteria, they do not kill parasites. Parasites are killed with poisons with fancy names. The trick is to kill the parasite and spare the host.
You can say whatever negative things you want about Bear Grylls, but in my book he has the best survival show ...period! In a real survival situation, I'd take my chances with the Bear. Staying with Les Stroud would garrantee a slow death of starvation. I'm 52, I'm a hunter, I spend a lot of time in the woods. In order to survive you need to get to safety. In my younger days I was lost in the snow following a Elk that was wounded. I had no matches, no food with me, it was back in my vehicle . Les stroud would have stayed there and froze in the snow. My friend and I kept moving and eventually close to morning we found our way back to the vehicle. My clothes were ripped to shreds clombing over down trees, rocks and lots of snow drifts, but we were safe. Less Stroud has a crew go in before him and leaves things he can use to survive. In the real survival situation all you have is what you're carrying and most of the time that's not much. Most of the people that become lost didn't plan on it...It happens. Getting out of the situation works for me and sitting around waiting to be rescued is a good way to die.
Oh snap! Surprised he wasn't eaten by a flock of penguins. Bad karma I bet from stabbing that reindeer in the brain and drinking his blood. Or biting that snake's head off. Or wacking that giant lizard on a tree. I wonder if he got naked and jumped in the ocean before the chopper got there to pick him up.
Originally posted by wynnbeez: Ok.....being a lifelong outdoors woman all my life. I always loved both shows; Survivorman and Man v. Wild. However, that being said, Man vs. Wild is a bunch of BS. No one in a real survival situation would jump ravines, get into a freezing river to "float downstream" (think hypothermia and getting caught on a rock and the force of the water pushing you under to drown), free climb huge rock faces where one slip would mean falling to your death or at least breaking bones. Oh, and as far as the "horse" thing goes, I have owned and trained horses for 25 years and if those horses were wild then I have some swamp land to sell you. Bear lost a lot of respect when he deceived people the first couple seasons into thinking he was doing so much of this stuff on his own. We found out later that many of these situations were "staged". Like throwing the stick and killing a rabbit. The rabbit was tethered down by the leg. Also trapping rabbits in snares (he never caught one). People should realize that real survival is not easy and glamorous. Now I have no doubt with all Bear's training he could survive in a real life and death situation. However, he wouldn't be climbing 40 feet into a tree and pole vaulting down a cliff face.
Les on the other hand is the real thing and he is man enough to show both his successes and failures. I love to watch him because he is himself and doesn't act like he knows everything and isn't afraid to try something he has never done before. He is so humorous. Yes he is basically self-taught but that is the best way in life to learn anything. You can read books, attend classes, lectures and go to special schools all you want, but until you get out there and get practical experience it doesn't matter. It is just like most of us who have a job every day. The school of hard knocks teaches you more than anything else. Learn by doing. And I love the fact that Les goes it alone. Carrying all that camera gear and filming everything himself is exhausting. (Oh yeah, forgot to mention, I have worked as a professional sound engineer and have my own videographer company called Inspired Creative Services so I know what it's like to carry equipment and film and record...it isn’t easy...and yes I learned to be a sound engineer by working around it since I was 15 and I am 50 now. That school of hard knocks works well). Of course, Les is not going to have the energy that Bear does because of this. Also, he is actually trying to teach you how to survive in real life situations when you are out there alone and lost.
In short, Les is my favorite because he is real and does it all himself. I still like Bear but I find myself not nearly as excited about his show since it has been revealed how much help he gets from his crew. He doesn't build things by himself (readily admitted since they were caught deceiving viewers); shelter, rafts, tools, food (most of the gross dead animals he eats are planted for him). And much of the live insects, meat, grubs, etc he eats would make you sick because it they are filled with parasites. You should always cook food unless it is a last resort. I'm sure he takes plenty of antibiotics to kill the parasites he ingest. Not smart. He does spend the night in hotels many times and films in not so remote locations on some occasions. That disclaimer about situations being set up has basically turned me off of Bear. However, I don't want people to think that he doesn’t have real skills. Obviously he does. But the program is no longer exciting to me because there is no spontaneity to it. I watch it when I can but no longer set my TIVO to record it because I can't wait to see it. It just did something to me when I found out so much was staged. Bottom Line:
Survivorman is true reality Man vs. Wild is strictly entertainment
If you are going to preach then get your facts straight. Anti-biotics kill bacteria, they do not kill parasites. Parasites are killed with poisons with fancy names. The trick is to kill the parasite and spare the host.
wynnbeez- I agree with you completely. man vs Wild is just entertainment, if most people tried what he does on the show, they would end up severely wounded or dead.
Luckhelps- Anti-boitics? Please, that is not even the slightest counter to wynnbeez comments. it is really laughable.
Originally posted by sasquatchtracker: You can say whatever negative things you want about Bear Grylls, but in my book he has the best survival show ...period! In a real survival situation, I'd take my chances with the Bear. Staying with Les Stroud would garrantee a slow death of starvation. I'm 52, I'm a hunter, I spend a lot of time in the woods. In order to survive you need to get to safety. In my younger days I was lost in the snow following a Elk that was wounded. I had no matches, no food with me, it was back in my vehicle . Les stroud would have stayed there and froze in the snow. My friend and I kept moving and eventually close to morning we found our way back to the vehicle. My clothes were ripped to shreds clombing over down trees, rocks and lots of snow drifts, but we were safe. Less Stroud has a crew go in before him and leaves things he can use to survive. In the real survival situation all you have is what you're carrying and most of the time that's not much. Most of the people that become lost didn't plan on it...It happens. Getting out of the situation works for me and sitting around waiting to be rescued is a good way to die.
This is complete idiocy. If you were in a real survival situation and followed bears lead, I agree you would not starve. You would not starve because you would most likely be dead from hypothermia from jumping into freezing water, climbing down into caves soo deep you become lost, jumping down cliffs or using a 40' tree to pogo down a cliff etc. etc... It is Bear who has all the help, sir. Les does not, he even carrys his own 60# worth of camera gear. Bear takes stupid chance after stupid chance which would land the average lost person in the morgue.
Wow I never realized the Bear show wasn't "real". I do watch it because it's entertaining and he's hot but I agree that Survivorman is really trying to show you how to survive. I like to watch Bear but I do have to turn the channel when he starts eating bugs and stuff.
