Does the flu shot give you the flu? Does the flu shot even protect you against the flu? As noted as a Simpson myth, is the flu shot a form of mind control? Everyone gets the flu shot before christmas, so the mind control can make you shop more.
And many more I'm sure, if there going to do H1N1 myths, I think it be more interesting if they did all the related flu myths at the same time.
The break down is that the flu shot is just half dead virus strains that are easy for the immune system to kill. What if there not weak enough, would a healthy or immune weak person in turn get the flu?
Is there any point in getting the flu shot, there are many many strains of flu each year, they generally only give you a shot the protects you againt 1 or a few. Hense not protecting you from all the other flu strains.
In the Simpsons, Homer accidentally uncovers a flu shot coverup that uses mind conrol to make people buy more before christmas. Cue screenshot of Rod and Tod curled up on the coach with cold shivers because they didnt get the flu shot.
So far 14 people have died in my state in the last month from H1N1 from young adults, to an old lady to a couple infants. If you really think the vaccine doesn't do anything, then don't get one, the one you pass up may save someone's life.
( dfez) Are you even aware of where your posting this? This isn't stuff I believe in, this is stuff people actually talk about. Hense making it a myth.
(thelightworks) They tested for mind control chips while giving blood. You really think testing for mind control flu shots is different?
From the sounds of it you don't know anything in specific. Ya most of the virus is dissesembled, but there are still a few live ones or there be nothing to kill off to make antibodies. Unless you think they have some guy micoscope scan all 300,000 trillion virus strains to confirm.
Its based on the fact that your injected only a few hundred (a guess) working virus strains so that a few hundred thousand white cells can swarm and kill with ease. Some people get slightly sick after the flu shot for this very reason, the white cells didn't completely kill them off and the virus was able to have a weak effect.
Why do I seem to get all the people who dismiss on weak knowhow or over serious about somehing I didn't even reference. This is flu shot generalization, not H1N1 specific.
Junior, if you actually knew anything about where I'm posting this then you would know that I do know. I also am one of the few people who post here who remember what it was like to remember having to huddle inside all summer to avoid the Polio Virus because people were dying left and right or being left paralyzed for life and having to live in an Iron Lung. The H1N1 vaccine has been shown to meet the standards of being safe and effective, so you haven't much ground to stand on. If you want to shoot Craps with Death, feel free to do so; you'll probably be OK, but you also might die-your choice. People who are apparently a lot smarter than you develop and test these vaccines; a major test on H1N1 vaccine was performed right here where I live and it was demonstrated to work. I'll be getting the shot when it becomes available.
As it has been said, the vaccine has a "dead" virus in it, so it then helps your immune system to develop anti-bodies to combat it. Sometimes, although it is rare, some might get a mild from of the flu, but in doing so, it again aids the immune system (perhaps they have an weakened immune system). Most "seasonal" flu shots are for the "previous" strains, but since it is a virus, it is a living organism, so it in turn develops an "immunity" to a previous treatment. (That is why there in not cure for the common cold, it keeps changing). As for the N1H1, more people still die of the "regular" flu than of this one. It is just that this strain has the potential to be a pandemic. I have not had a flu shot for several years, and I have not gotten (too) sick. But I guess it can be put this way, getting a flu vaccine will most likely help you (develop an immunity) if you should get either the flu or the N1H1 strain, and if you should get either one, you will have a better chance, or less severe case, than without the vaccine. As for mind-control, no.
1) Dfez, paralytic poliomyelitis affects less than 1% of those with the polio virus
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300,000 trillion virus strains
Umm, I hate to correct you, but there aren't 300 trillion influenza strains. There might be a few thousand, but the majority of those wouldn't infect humans.
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They tested for mind control chips while giving blood. You really think testing for mind control flu shots is different?
Yeah, because their method of testing the blood donation wouldn't have detected anything anyway. You can't detect anything small enough to fit through a syringe with a hardware tool.
Also, you obviously have no idea how infection works. Infectious agents require multiple agents to be present for the body to be present. Several hundred weakened and functioning viruses would not be nearly enough to cause disease through infection. Typically, you need amounts in the thousands of viruses to become infected.
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Ya most of the virus is dissesembled, but there are still a few live ones or there be nothing to kill off to make antibodies.
As I said above, a few live ones are not enough. Plus, the immune system makes antibodies based on viral proteins. It doesn't even need the entire virus, which is part of the reason they "kill" the virus.
How could anyone keep this mind control via injection secret?
Even if mind control via injection was possible, it'd be used for much, much more than promoting mere consumerism. You'd have had your last free thought long ago.
How exactly is this magical elixir supposed to work, anyhow? How do you get a human brain to submit to a set of external commands via blood born control? The only doctor I've heard doing this kind of thing is Doctor Who, but I wouldn't consider that a scientific reference.
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The only effect you might get from the flu vaccine, is the same effects you might get from any vaccine.. Some mild reactions, and maybe a delayed reaction...
But certainly nothing more,unless you are allergic to the vaccine itself.. then you might be in big sh*t-trouble..
) Dfez, paralytic poliomyelitis affects less than 1% of those with the polio virus
That;s of little comfort to the people that died- I recall about 3000. It was just as terrifying the alternative; being paralyzed and not being able to breathe. It happened everywhere and if you've seen an Iron Lung ward, you might have been concerned too. I have a friend in his early 70's who has walked with a severe limp all his life from contracting polio and being partially paralyzed. Unless you were around in 1952, you don't get what it's like to know there is a potentially fatal disease floating around everywhere and there was little to be done to save you.
I'm not saying it wasn't bad horrible. <1% is still high. But people weren't quite being paralyzed "left and right". I'm just pointing out that Anthrax, Ebola, CJD (caused by spongiform encephalitis), Botulism and certain others are worse though. Essentially, not the worst disease ever, although it's still very, very nasty.
Originally posted by Qwerty.55: I'm not saying it wasn't bad horrible. <1% is still high. But people weren't quite being paralyzed "left and right". I'm just pointing out that Anthrax, Ebola, CJD (caused by spongiform encephalitis), Botulism and certain others are worse though. Essentially, not the worst disease ever, although it's still very, very nasty.
It depends on how you define horrible.
I've never known anyone with cases of the diseases you mentioned (Ebola, Anthrax, etc.).
It was tested on 200 people somewhere in europe, showed to be safe and was mass produced. Canada was one of the first to mass vacinate the polulation last week, the study of effectiveness won't be done till 3-4 weeks later once they can find out if it actually stops people from getting H1N1, or if it was just a flop. They can't test for success short of injecting and seeing if anyone gets it cause its based on the immune system, there is no magic lab test to check if it works cause thats just how viruses work.
viruses are actually strain shaped (nice and long), they live inside or outside other cells. 300,000 trillion is in reference to the number of strains in all the tubes of vacine being produced. Not how many types there are....sigh
You people do realize this is the mythbuster forms, these are myths I didn't just make it up, and like most myths they may not actually have scientific backing, I could reference a lot of mythbuster shows where this was obvious but they testing through anyway. If they can't back it up through rigging or explosives they often reference professionals for help. Who said I knew the answers?
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I forgot to mention that the brain never really contacts any blood, so mind control is pretty much impossible by that method.
I suppose you think the brain works on pixy dust and cosmic engery than . Put your hands up if you want someone who knows what there talking about.
As far as the Simpson mind control myth goes, I'd hedge a bet in the direction that you use drugs to enchance parts of the brain where desire and addiction occur. Buying stuff feels good, if you strengthn this feeling with drugs even just a bit, your more likely to buy and spend more. Bringing in more tax for the goverment and so on.
The point is to add more myths about flu shots, I in now way was claiming to know the true answer even though I think I have a good idea. It would seem most who respond eiher don't understand that fact or are even more clueless.
H1N1 is also rampant where I live. It's so bad that schools have as much as 1/3rd of their students and faculty out sick at one time. The school system is so short on teachers due to illness that they've exhausted the supply of Substitutes and are having to double up classes with administrators taking them. H1N1 is so ubiquitous that they aren't even testing for it anymore; everyone tested has H1N1-No Seasonal Flu has been detected. It is also jumping species; just this week it was announced that a Cat has been proven to have contracted it from his human friends. It's proven very adaptable. Vaccinating for the flu also cuts down on it's spread and the opportunities for it to pick up mutations that might increase it's virulence.
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I haven't had a flu shot since I got out of the Army and have no intention of getting one (I might change my mind in 20 years!). Why? Within 3 days of getting the flu shot, via mass vaccinations, there would be dozens of us reporting to sick call because we now had the flu. Blame it on whatever you want, I'll stick with the flu shot caused us to be sick.
36,000 people die every year from the flu. And they usually have underlying sicknesses that is exacerbated by the flu. So far, for 2009, a bit under 2,000 have died from H1N1, and again, most weren't the healthiest stock to begin with.
Around here, a trip to the doctor for the sniffles leads to an automatic "diagnosis" for H1N1. They stopped testing for it and just report numbers. "Uhhh...I don't have a fever...How can I have the flu?" "Who's the doctor here?!"
My parents were vaccinated for the regular flu and are waiting for the H1N1 vaccine, but they are old and not in the best of health. My cousin spent a night in the hospital from H1N1 (real diagnosis).
Mind control....please....I really don't know what else to say about that!
Deaths from smoking: 440,000 per year in the US. A bit over 10x the annual flu deaths. Deaths from traffic accidents: about 35,000 per year. About the same for flu deaths.
I'm neither concerned about H1N1 specifically nor the flu in general. It's sad when someone you love dies, but it is a part of life. We are not immortal.
I'm more concerned about the Ft Hood shooting because I went through something similar oh so many years ago and I used to be HQ'd out of Ft Hood and still have friends working down there (as defense contractors).
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