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Junior Member
Registered: 09-01-07
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I just had to comment about this episode that aired tonight at 8pm EST.
I have never seen such a jackass as this Nathan. Sitting on his high horse, wanting to be all "feng Shui", when in reality he won't lift a finger, not to work on the flip, or even make a phone call. I feel terrible for the two guys who were 'working with' him.

It is so obvious that Nathan is completely insecure, and wants to feel "superior" by controlling the flip. (When in reality, he is just controlling the money). What an idiot.

A 2 week flip? ha. Why don't these people EVER listen to Kirsten? I wonder. The two guys that worked so hard, they deserve ANY profits this job yields. (if any)
had to vent..........so annoyed by this guy and his dog.
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Registered: 09-01-07
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I agree, but on a separate note, good lord, that black girl was gorgeous. But yeah, a reality check for Nathan is highly in order.
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Registered: 02-17-06
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This is the most outrageously terrific episode yet! I knew it would be entertaining when I saw "Feng Shui" in the preview guide. Gee, that bunch of hooey didn't help and neither did the "lucky" numbers. I guess we won't see any of the other places that Nathan thought he was going to flip. Big Grin
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Registered: 08-11-07
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Another great show that really showcases guys like Nathan. He doesn't lift a finger, calls a meeting to see who is going to call someone to pick up the trash, plays with his rat dog instead of helping, stops work because he wants too. What an idiot!! It's clear this guy hasn't worked at all in his life, no respect or work ethic. He needs to stop stroking his dog and living off mommy and daddy and do SOME WORK! Roll Eyes
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Registered: 08-14-07
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This episode is a classic case of three mistakes that seem to be a pattern on all the Property Ladder episodes:

1. I think they paid too much for the condo. You make your money when you buy. If the realtors at the end thought it would sell for 350K, then buying it pre-renovation at around 330K (can't remember the exact figure) leaves zero room for profit after you spend all the renovation money. On the other side of the coin, that young Texas kid who moved to CA from an episode a few weeks ago seemed to buy at a good price and thus made a great profit at the end.

2. You have to be at the property every day. They weren't, or at least Nathan certainly wasn't. The should have learned from that Ronaldo guy from another episode

3. Hire people if you aren't savvy and quick. Seemed like the two worker guys took two weeks just to take popcorn off the ceiling and retexture this. A pro would have knocked this out the first day of the flip. Honestly the property didn't seem in such bad shape to begin with. This potentially was one of the easier flips they've shown. I'm scared off by the ones where the whole structure is rotting or termite infested. This one should have been a breeze.

In an open letter to the good people at TLC, please stop giving us the 60 second definition of staging on every episode this season. Once or twice was fine, but good lord, EVERY episode???

Though I'm still addicted to this show!
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Registered: 09-02-07
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Honestly, I thought I had seen it all with the episode from 2 weeks ago featuring Renardo but this Nathan takes the cake as the biggest douchebag tool I've seen on this show yet.

I hope the upcoming episodes feature relatively more normal people, as opposed to the sitcom-like characters which are amusing but also incite and induce frustration.
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Registered: 07-23-07
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This was the first episode that I came very close to turning off. That guy Nathan ticked me off so much, I just barely made it thru.

As much as I think Nathan should have been there pitching in, if you had a $4000/mo mortgage, wouldn't it be well worth it to hire a professional or two to speed up some parts of the job?

How did his two friends bite their tongue and not completely tell the guy off? ...and, as usual, the end screen of the show says that they are looking for their next flip (well, their next 28)..

Where do people get the money to do this stuff?

I agree about the 'staging' part. At this point it is almost like a joke when it comes on. I'm waiting to see a little logo like, "Staging.. brought to you buy Ace Hardware" or something.
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Registered: 12-06-04
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All the Feng Shui energy available in the world today cannot overcome sheer stupidity. Whether Nathan's IQ is 28 or 82, those numbers turned out to be the unluckiest of all.

Loved that modern California rustic no closet doors touch.
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Registered: 02-22-04
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I just finished watching this episode. These guys really got under my skin with their stupidity. I had recorded it from the other night. My recording stopped right at the end when Kirsten was explaining what went wrong(as if we didn't know HA!). Did they say at the end if someone actually bought this or is it still sitting empty and they lost all of their money?
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Registered: 08-11-07
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From what I can remember. They didn't sell the condo. It's still sitting empty. At this point I think Nathan is waiting for the condo to be on the market for at least 288 days ;-)
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Registered: 09-08-07
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Yes! This guy Nathan was unreal. Although most of the people on this show seem to have idea about construction or remodeling, at least they seem interested in learning what to do to flip their house. This guy didn't even seem like he had the slightest interest in his flip! I can't believe he would show up and sit on the counter reading, I mean "studying" feng shui and just leave without doing a thing.

I agree that the 60 second staging definition is getting a little old. The new episode that was on tonight did avoid the full definition bit which was a good idea.
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Registered: 11-10-03
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I just saw this ep for the 1st time and...wow.

Nathan was lucky that Marcus & Sanford were guys with integrity. Not many people (even friends/family) are that patient and dedicated...and willing to endure the abuse & sheer stupidity that Nathan put them through.

What I don't understand is why the majority of the "flippers" on this show seem to have done no research prior to getting involved in a flip.

It takes a royal idiot to NOT take Kirsten's advice. Are they only showing the idiots??

These guys should've researched before buying their property. Small margins don't leave wiggle room or real profits to be made.

And it's not necessary to stage so excessively...especially when skimping on the important stuff like finishing the cabinetry & having closet doors. Duh.

Nathan is a maj pig-head...so I guess the only thing he did appropriately is name his company. lol

Verrrrrrrrry entertaining.
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Registered: 10-21-07
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This was the 2nd time I saw this ePIGsode.

This time I only threw eight (nerf) bricks at my TV as I watched these guys do almost everything wrong.

They really needed a lesson in teamwork.

..but I agreed with one thing said:

To flip 28 houses in a year, you must start with one.
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Registered: 01-08-08
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Those guys were IDIOTS!! Eek

Would you buy a house after they did anything to it, I know I sure wouldn't!!

SirMichael4 Cool
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Registered: 05-09-06
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I was so angry just watching Nathan & all his drama. Is he just crazy or that out of touch with reality? He must have money to burn because I would have flipped that condo in 4 weeks because it really didn't need that much work. And who has a meeting about making a phone call to have the trash removed?! Just call someone & have it done. It was really really frustrating watching this episode.
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Registered: 08-08-08
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That's an interesting discussion.
but I dint see that episode at all I wwill try watching next time.
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