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Registered: 04-19-04
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Does anyone else think she's terrible? She's condescending, and rude. I don't think she offers any valuable advice, so I seriously wonder why she is even ON the show. Too bad- this would be a good show otherwise.
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Registered: 12-31-05
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I like Kirsten. I think she is knowlegable, blunt and wants to HELP the flippers do well. Three things these first time flippers need; who often are unprepared and unrealistic.

I often wish she'd make an additional visit besides the usual three, thereby probably preventing alot of the trouble the flippers have.

However, I suspect the show would not be nearly as entertaining without those additional oops, that her input would help stave off.
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Registered: 05-02-04
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At first I didn't like her either. I thought she was rude and treated the flippers like they were morons. However, she hasn't really grown on me, but I do think she has some good ideas because a lot of them don't know what they're getting into. I guess it would be nice if she's tone down the attitude of knowing everything to being a little more sympathetic to the flippers. She obviously is a very intelligent woman, but coming across that way doesn't always make for good television.
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Registered: 12-27-06
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i'd really like this show to be put online!!!
i don't have time watching tv with the schedule tlc has set. too bad, tlc is missing lots of fans!! i don't care if Kirsten is rude, it's the information you can get from a show that counts.
besides, she is HOT!!
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Registered: 05-21-06
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I like Kirsten but I have never seen a show where anything she said made one bit on difference! This show makes it looks like any boob can buy a house, trash it, make it unsafe using the very poor labour and the cheapest materials, waste all thier money and still make 100 grand profit! If I bought a house that was flipped on this show and then saw how I was ripped off by overly eager, incompetent flipper-scavengers I would freak!
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Registered: 05-02-04
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I think what happens is that people are pretty set in their ways and have a hard time taking advice from Kirsten. I think she has good suggestions in some homes. I think she hit it on the mark when she told that young coffee making guy to not put a loft in his living room. Or when she told the couple not to make the laundry room into a master suite. I think people just have a hard time taking advice, but sometimes they go ahead with their ideas and it turns out just fine. I still think her approach to the flippers is frequently too harsh.
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Registered: 01-15-07
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I love Kirsten,

I don't think that I would call it condescending. I think she's trying to accentuate major points that the owners overlook.

I think it is hilarious to see how the owners completely do the opposite of what she says or disregard her advice completely and then bomb.
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Registered: 01-19-07
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I've seen all the 'flip' shows and think Property Ladder is primo! Wish I had a no-nonsense, business-minded, seasoned person like KK in my corner. Besides her babe looks, her intelligence is what makes her soooo doubly hot!
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Registered: 01-31-07
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i have to agree with Tediam. All of you negative individuals must be out of your minds or just stupid! KK may say 1 silly thing out of 200. I've seen all the episodes and still watch them today. I'm a high-end cabinet builder, trim carpenter, owner, ya, lucky me! I put insane kitchen and baths in every home and it sells in a couple of days- EVERYTIME! I also do all my own work, no matter what it is. I make 100k dollar condos look better than your 600k home! KK says what it takes, it makes sense for the budget and the situation! Remember everyone has an opinion.
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Registered: 02-01-07
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If you are in the real estate business in any way, you'll realize Kristen is right on the money. Her suggestions to flippers are to help them turn the property fast (which saves them $$) and make the most profit. Kristen tries to get flippers to see what potential buyers want in a home, not what the flipper would want in their own home. Flipping is all about the buyer. I agree that quality changes should be made and all safety matters should be addressed regardless of the cost and I think Kristen agrees. Kristen is imparting her wisdom and intends to keep the flippers REALISTIC. If you are not prepared, realistic, and tuned in to your market, you can "loose your shirt." Yes, it is TV so it is edited but I find it fascinating that the most successful flips on this show are those that follow her advice most closely and the least successful are those who don't pay any attention. Bottom line, if Kristen didn't know what she was talking about or add any value with her suggestions, she wouldn't be a very successful, career flipper would she?
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Registered: 01-28-07
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EXCUSE ME? I think that Kirsten Kemp is actually really good at what she does and gives the flippers reallg great advise. If more of them would listen to her, they would actually make money
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Registered: 02-06-07
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Who Cares, She is HOTT! I think she makes great points and i love the look she gives when the flipper says he is gonna completly remodel the whole house. Then when she asks about the budget they say 10,000 and that includes gutting the kitchen and bath. That look she gives is priceless. Oh, and did i mention she is HOTT!!?
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Registered: 02-08-07
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I've watched about a dozen episodes. If I was to do a flip, I would take her advise 99%. Nothing is 100%.
She does a great job. Most of the first time people she deals with are plain clueless, you can see it when she askes questions. They waste ton's of time and money. She's great at asking the tuff questions. You can see the looks on there faces, clueless!!
I love the show, and Kirsten is hottie.
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Registered: 02-16-07
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I have to agree with most of the posts below. KK isn't condescending at all, (you should see some of the shows over here in the UK) and I think that the advise she gives is well thought out and provides useful guidance to the featured flippers. Speaking of which, on the second point, (as mentioned by more than one poster), KK sure is hot, although she was upstaged by a mother/daughter team in California recently, (Melanie I think it was!) Eek
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Registered: 07-19-05
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Originally posted by legarrec:
Does anyone else think she's terrible? She's condescending, and rude. I don't think she offers any valuable advice, so I seriously wonder why she is even ON the show. Too bad- this would be a good show otherwise.


No, she is fine. It is the fact that the flippers should read "Flipping for Dummies" before EVEN THINKING about flipping. Roll Eyes

I was watching one of these flipping shows and the idiot who was flipping bought a new front door which didn't fit. His response: Uhhh I guess there are different size doors...who knew? ha ha ha


Pretty scary eh?
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Registered: 04-30-07
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I think Kristen is a snob but I would take her flipping advice any day.
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Registered: 04-24-07
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First of all.. last time I was on tlc's site they didn't have the discussion board for Property Ladder. So....YAY!

As far as Kristen goes... I think she is the hard voice of reality that the first time flippers need. She won't blow sunshine like some friends might.

Although I'm not a flipper (maybe one day), I have learned a lot. I'd keep a "book" of costs. High end, medium and low end appliance prices. Variety of tile prices. Prices on fixtures (high,med and low). And prices on how much it would cost to get stuff done (plumber, electrical, etc). And even with all that homework, I'd still welcome Kristen's advice.

TLC...produce more Property Ladder shows. I've pretty much all that are airing.

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Registered: 12-29-06
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KK is smart, successful, and frankly if she gets a little bit impatient with people who are totally green and still think they know better than she does... well so be it.

I like her. Heck, I want to 'be' her when I grow up. Smile
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Registered: 04-28-07
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I thought she was rude also but shes cool. I would rather someone tell me something in a rude manner than f*** up my money and project in the end.Yes most of the flippers have no clue what to do they just saw it before and want to try it.
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Registered: 04-24-07
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Perhaps the producers of the show are editing the show to make Kirsten seem short with them.

Either way, it's the flipper's project, not hers. So she can only offer advise. It's up to the people involved to take it for what it's worth to them.


Oh yeah.. mod_ivy, oops. I see what was edited. I'll learn to avoid a few words.
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Registered: 05-23-07
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She is not mean or condescending, she is just honest in telling those flipping idiots that they should expect the unexpected, don't just think of money signs, but potential risks that might come with the flipping a crappy home. However rude she might be, at least she making something out of herself with a TV show, I don't see ppl who oppose her have their own TV shows or sucessful/rich like she is. Remote control is in your hand, if you don't like her, tough, there are others who do enjoy her knowledge and expertise. Flipping is business, not for the fainted hearts, she does not need to sugar coat the reality for them. Not every flip show has to be nice, nice, it is what it is. Some of her advices are priceless, you can not even pay to her to tell you those in everyday life. As an experienced flipper, I am all for KK. I believe one should listen to someone who had made it. Critcising her show is best left for the people who talk the talk, never walk the talk.

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Registered: 05-27-07
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i dont find her rude at all. i find the people who ignore her suggestions to be pretty stupid for the most part.
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Registered: 06-04-07
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You obviously don't get it. Kirsten's great - attractive, knowledgeable, and successful. The gist of the show is to intrigue viewers by showing all the mistakes that flippers make. If everyone followed K's advice and didn't encounter any problems, the show wouldn't be nearly as interesting. The show is produced and edited to create a "tension" that draws viewers in, and K's great at this role.

Plus, I absolutely love K's attractive poses (watch the way she stands in the shots) and her suspect glances that they shoot as cutaways. This show is well done and K rocks!

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Originally posted by legarrec:
Does anyone else think she's terrible? She's condescending, and rude. I don't think she offers any valuable advice, so I seriously wonder why she is even ON the show. Too bad- this would be a good show otherwise.
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Registered: 06-10-07
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As a veteran flipper I am always amazed that the newbies blow off Kirsten's sage advice...I find her to be a class act with a ton of sensibility and style. I wish she would be permitted to wack dense wannabies on their noggins. Kuddo's to her she is always able to be above the fray.
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Registered: 06-16-07
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I think the producers of the show must specifically look for people who won't follow Kirsten's advice (it makes for better TV). I think anyone with a modicum of common sense would jump at the chance to have her help and take her advice, yet most of the people on this show ignore her suggestions.

Here's the standard scenario:
1) People create a tiny budget based on nothing.
2) They come up with a laundry list of improvements that has no relation to the budget.
3) They encounter problems because they didn't get a home inspection.
4) They go way over budget.
5) They over-price the house to try to make up for the fact that they went way over budget.
6) They are eaten up by carrying costs because the over-priced house doesn't sell.