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Registered: 09-07-06
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interesting?????
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Registered: 02-20-04
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I doubt that the Hampsters had to pay himm anything, since the bagger was clearly the better bike. Someone needs to tell these guys that the tank hanging under the backbone looks like bad. Jay did have some nice engineering.

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interesting that you mentioned hamsters who said anything about a hamster? kinda odd that somthing of the nature of that comment came out of thin air???????????
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Registered: 12-11-04
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I'm sorry, but somehow that bagger just seemed....wrong. Didn't seem to fit on BBO. Made me think too much of the Honda Goldwings I see in the McDonalds parking lot on Sunday morning.
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a goldwing, man is that a slap in the face of bagger owners.

I saw quite a few baggers on the road this summer doing some long rides in the middle of no where, not more than a handful of "choppers". When you put on serious OTR miles baggers are choice.
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Registered: 10-27-03
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The Hamsters, for the uninformed, is the prestigious club Klock belongs to. Nice guys with alot of cash.
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Registered: 10-25-06
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this one was a joke. if my ol' grand mama had a catalogue and some tools she could have built klocks bike.Hart put alot of work into his bike and will hopefully get so well deserved credit for it. Its sad how much the polotics of the bike world play into this show. (don't even bother mentioning i can't spell. i already know)
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Registered: 06-18-06
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I found Klock's bike to be irritating. When I first found out they were showing a bagger, I initially figured it'd be a bagger vs. bagger thing, but obviously it wasn't.

I really went into this thing with an open mind, hoping to see something outside of the baggers I'm used to seeing (and hating). My opinion of a bagger isn't very good traditionally. My father rides one, and he has to have his stereo, his saddle bags, his windshield, his fairing. It might as well be a two wheeled car.

But as I was saying, I was going into this with an open mind, and boy was I disappointed. What was so special about Klock's bagger? It looked like every other bagger I've seen on the road, except it had a wheelie bar and some bright digital gauges.

Hart should have won on effort and originality alone. He completely got robbed.

And I've seen some rather neat looking bikes with the tank under the backbone, if they do it right. I saw one that had some very cool tribal pinstriping and artwork going down the backbone .

Mathius

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Registered: 10-25-06
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Hart's bike is what the "Build Off" is supposed to be about. He built the frame, swingarm, front end, tooled his own seat and went as far as to gas weld his own aluminum gas tank and oil bag. A lost art in itself. Of course, most all of this was lost on the typical Sturgis attendee who can only acknowledge a bike that looks like theirs.

Anyway, Hart has much talent especially considering he has only been building bikes for a handful of years. The guy is a phenom and has a bright future. As entertaining as he was, maybe Discovery Channel should give him his own show.
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Registered: 09-07-06
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i could stand to watch that guy for a season or two. he's obviously entertaining and most importantly a great fabricator. sure is nice to see someone BUILD his bike for a change.
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Registered: 10-27-06
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Mathis... quote"But as I was saying, I was going into this with an open mind, and boy was I disappointed. What was so special about Klock's bagger? It looked like every other bagger I've seen on the road, except it had a wheelie bar and some bright digital gauges."

If you see this bike in person, you might notice all of the hand built parts on this beast, and if you don't .. that's really the idea... it is called fit and finish... ie... custom built frame, fenders, tanks, fillers, gauge pods, fork covers, etc. It is way more than bolt on... but it is easy to sit in front of a keyboard and dish... later
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Registered: 06-18-06
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So what? The same could be said for Hart's bike and every other bike that's been on the show. I'm sure they're way more impressive in person.

I've been to shows and seen some really nice bike's that my pictures didn't do justice.

I don't have money to fly around or even ride around to all these different Biker Build-Off's to see them in person. That's why they put out a t.v. show. I'm obviously not the only one disappointed either.

Mathius
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Registered: 10-27-06
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you think they do the show to inform and entertain?? they do the show to make money... It is a revenue center... it's got nothing to do with education or anyone's opinion or even what's cool... it's all about the cash...
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Registered: 06-18-06
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If the show wasn't entertaining, people wouldn't watch it and they wouldn't make money.

In fact, these questionable endings just creates more press for them in its own way, and more press means more people watch.

Jerry Springer is living proof of that.

Of course they're in it for the money. I've been saying that since day one I started posting here.

Do you think Hue King gets to parade himself in front of the camera all day because the show isn't successful? Would YOU tune in just to watch the "chopper king" if they weren't building bikes?

Mathius
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Registered: 10-28-06
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I'm new here, but I have something important to add. I would like to commend Hart for the way he handled himself after the decision was announced. First class all the way. I can only hope to handle myself that well in a situation like that.

Hart had, and still has, the better bike. HART worked hard. HART had the imagination and creativity to produce something completely custom and original - exactly what the show is about. Others have blasted Klock for his bolt-on stuff. I only saw him holding a couple of parts for the camera. It seems that he had very little to do with the actual build. I know that there's no way for these guys to complete a bike in that amount of time without a little help, but come on! At least do SOMETHING. It's called Biker Build Off, not Biker and all of his guys that do all the work for him Build Off.

Congratulations Hart, you built more than the better bike - you built art on two wheels. Yours has style, originality, and most of all - artistic creativity. You should know that a bunch of us appreciate the product that you worked so hard to create. I still can't believe your bike didn't win.

JJ
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as i see it.... hart built a frame,a swingarm,a fuel tank,an oil tank,a front end,handle bars,a fender, a seatpan and tooled it himself, a headlight, an engine and who knows what else he built that couldn't fit in the show. HE BUILT A FRIGGIN' MOTORCYCLE!!!
and klock built........uhhh ZERO! but he BOUGHT most of his bike and slightly modified the rest. so he bought a stock fender and had his stooge put a strip of metal in it... whoop dee doo!!! that is not what this show is about! it's about BUILDING! AND BUILDING IT YOURSELF!!!!
THIS IS THE MOST MESSED UP DEAL YET. ANYONE THAT COULD SAY OTHERWISE IS INSANE!
HERE'S A CHALLENGE....PAINT BOTH BIKES FLAT BLACK, SIT THEM SIDE BY SIDE AND PARK THEM IN FRONT OF A SHOPPING CENTER AND SEE WHICH ONE GETS THE MOST LOOKS!
OR HERE'S ANOTHER ONE....
TAKE IT TO A DEALERSHIP AND SEE WHICH ONE IS EASIER TO MAKE BACK INTO A STOCK BIKE!!

IT'S A STOCK ROADGLIDE PEOPLE!!!
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Registered: 10-29-06
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I'm just was suprised that klocks bike even ran at all.Did you notice how much air time klock got?Showed him puttin a frame on the lift, then other guys working on it a little, paint and then it was done. I can't believe hugh allowed other people to build the bike. maybe it should be called the people that work for be build off.Hart should have won by a landslide.
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Hart DID win by a landslide! It's not hard for a guy to win a custom bike show if he's the only one who's taken a custom bike to the show!
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Registered: 10-27-06
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You guys kill me!!! Everyone is welcome to their collective opinion of who won. In these things, everyone who participated won. But to say klock did nothing but build a stock glide 'cause you didn't see everything on tv isn't fair or even an intelligent statement. As far as other people building a bike, come on!!! i haven't seen every build off show but the ones that i have seen had multiple players working... Klocks bike has a one off frame, exhaust, bars, dash, headlight housing, gauge pod built on a stratosys fast prototype machine, fork covers and the list goes on and on. In house.. just like jays bike. The bike ran flawlessly on the ride. Then they set a land speed record with it as well... so to say you are surpirsed it ran... get real...it ran and ran fast.. do that with a stock bike.. hell klock would have and could have waterjeted the frame for jay in house.. so... as long as you are picking. jay had to go to someone else to jet his... don't even go to where he did it all by himself.. he is way to smart to know that you can't do it by yourself.. it takes a team...
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Iknowtheanswer: First off, I'm not going to argue with you about what Klock did and didn't do. I realize the whole build cannot be on camera. We didn't see him do much, maybe he did, maybe he didn't.

Yes, he supposedly set a landspeed record. But it was with a bagger. How many people do you think race baggers down Bonneville? Hmm?

Sure Klock could have water jetted the frame for Jason. Does that make Klock the better builder because he has a bigger business? If that's your basis, I don't want to hear what you have to say.


So now the stage is yours. Argue your points. Fill me in. Just what were all these custom parts that made this bike so cool that we couldn't see on camera?

You've been defending this guy since day one, so lets hear it. Here's your chance to tell us about what's so great about this bike that we couldn't see.

I saw a stock bagger, with a beefier (heavier too no doubt) frame, bigger engine, glowing digital gauges and a wheelie bar.

Mathius
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