Fan=An ardent devotee or admirer, as of a sport, althletic team, or famous person...

I just though I'd put the definition of a fan in here so that we all knew what it meant. I have trouble with people who claim they are fans who then trash the people at AC or OCC.

Constructive criticism is one thing because the people that be would never know what the fans like and dislike. But people who get on this forum solely for the purpose of trashing these people are not fans!!!!

I Would Love to see Vinnie get a spinoff to American Chopper based on his own custom shop.

[quote][quote]Oldscll, I can picture Rick working with the guys at Gasoline Alley. It seems to me that the style of bikes they fabricate would be right up Rick's Alley (sorry about that, I couldn't help it) Big Grin[/quote]


Up Rick's Alley, you punster you! LOL. But you have a point there wit. On top of your head. LOL. No, I kidd I kidd. But Rick WOULD REALLY fit right in with the old school style that Gasoline Alley is so famous for...[/quote]

Hey witega old buddy, you did know I was only joking, I hope? Since you didn't respond, I got a little worried that you thought I was being a wise ars. It ain't me babe. No no no, it' ain't me babe. I hope you always know that I'm just a joker and never a wise ars with you and everybody else on the boards. It's not my style to bump heads. Life's too short. I'm just here for the ride and having fun...

I second that motion americanchopperfan22. In fact, he'd probably blowww the competition out of the water. Big time!!!

[quote][quote]Bikerhart, it is obvious to anyone with half their brain actually working that this is largely a money issue. I can promise you that Vinnie and Cody were not properly compensated. And I will go so far as saying they were not compensated within their legal right. When everything is said and done, you will have a completely different opinion of the Teutels. Before you reply with some nonsense, remember my posts. There is something quite ravenous going on at OCC. At it has to do with Sr. greed. Wait and see....[/quote]


Ok Artie, let's see your proof. By the way, if you spent any time with your information you won't reveal, then you would also know I'm not a man.[/quote]

Put that in your pipe and smoke it Artie... LOL.

I've been watching and loving the shows since day one. I have said so many times over the last 6 to 8 episodes, I wish they would give us more Vinnie and Jr. building a bike and less silly, set up, Sr.and Mikey junk. So this changes everything for me, but I'm a fan I'll watch and adjust. I agree with oldscll from 8/18 that change isn't always bad. People change and Vinnie is putting his family first, good for him. You'll be missed Vinnie by the viewer and by that shop. But I'm getting this strange miami ink / LA ink feeling? Hum, a little pattern developing TLC? Hummm

I think TLC is already noted for that. When Trading Spaces became really popular they weren't happy with that; they had trading spaces with families, then while you were out, and I don't know what else I quit watching that channel by then. They over did it with the Bob Villa type do-your-own rehab of homes type programming as well. Although they had a bunch of good shows then too.

However, if they had a spin-off with Vinnie's shop, my husband and I would watch it!

Oldscll, you promised me you wouldn't tell anyone about my pointy head. Now that you have, I'll never get a date to the prom.

I think TLC's Turbo Thursdays, or whatever they call it, is a waste of program space. With the exception of "Wrecks to Riches" - I've seen a bit of it, and thought it was quite good. American Hot Rod - I never liked it, and have never watched it, because I can't stand the people on that show. Overhaulin' isn't good, either. That's not a reflection on Chip Foose. I think he's talented, but Overhaulin' is just a car version of punk'd, which I also never liked, and never watched. It's all fluff. American Chopper - it used to be good, but it's not so good now, since TLC got mixed up in it. Hard Shine - no good. What happened to Biker Build Off?

I don't watch Miami Ink or LA Ink. The artwork, I imagine, is very nice. I'll never know that for sure, though, because I'm not going to subject myself to an hour long badly-acted soap opera just to look at a tattoo. The Miami Ink American Chopper debacle was enough to ensure that I will never watch again.

There isn't one show on TLC that I would make a conscious effort to watch. I will still watch AC, though, if I'm not doing anything else, remember it's on, or I haven't found something more worthy of my time by the time it airs. I find the changes to American Chopper annoying. I don't watch television much to begin with, so when a show I do like gets messed up, I move on. I realize AC had to evolve...but it evolved into something I find of little interest, in the grand scheme of things. If Vinnie does get a show, I hope it is with a network that will do it justice.

quote: "What happened to Biker Build Off? "
How about the idea of Vinnie vs. Paul Jr in a build off ? Now that would be interesting to see who wins.

biker,there is no contest, vinnie would build a bike that paul jr would not come close too.in fact paul would be in a lower league to vinnie,i hope vinnie and cody just remember to keep their feet on the ground,their bikes on the road,never put a dead line in front of their family.The rest will follow them.

nighthawk:
I agree. Vinny's skills are more complete. I'm just not sure if his creativity can match Paul Jr. I loved the bike Vinny designed and built but I'm not sure sure he could have created the Firebike the way Paul Jr did. No matter what I just hope he and Cody succeed in their new adventures.

Vinnie suсks. But Teutuls and Rick are gods.

Dang... if Rick is a god, then I'm in the wrong religion.

Why do you always put together religion and god?
Religion exploits god just like television exploits OCC.

Um dude... it's called a joke.

martinalexeyevich: please find yourself another forum to troll.

Rickology..Has a nice ring to it..

And if Paulie was God, I'd be a devote Teutulist..

And the language they speak is Teutulism..

[quote]Rickology..Has a nice ring to it.. [/quote]

So, would that make me a rickologist?

It sure would!!!

bikerhart,
After thinking about it you may have a point,paul jnr has the upper hand,he did make a great job of the firebike,but i may have jumped the gun here i would like to see a bike build off between the two friends,but i would say, have a rule that no help to be given to either of them.The judging be done by the fans on the site over a period of time.Pictures put on the site of each section completed,To all this would be a contest not a slinging match or word calling.

mod,
Is there a chance you could get hold of paul snr and paul jnr,to find out their thoughts,on a bike build off with Vinnie and Cody.

martin
have you looked in the mirrow lately,

Yes, why do you ask?

I Truly Hope it's time for vinnie to get him a spinoff of american chopper.

nighthawk56 - At the Live event I went to on Thursday, someone asked them why they didn't do the biker build off. Paul Sr. said it really wasn't fair to do it because they have their own show. It's more important to them to do their show and support their fans. Plus they said they have plenty of work to keep them busy.

I think OCC shouldn't be on BBO because BBO allows other builders exposure they normally wouldn't have without the show.

I doubt Vinnie gets a spin-off but I would be willing to give it a try because I really enjoyed Vinnie on the show.

nighthawk:
I don't think a biker buildoff with other builders is what I would like to see. The BBO's put too much emphasis on timelines. It should come down to creativity and quality, not what can be built the fastest. However a buildoff between Vinny and Paul Jr would be interesting.

jenninija:
Do you actually pay to go to those live events and what do they clip you for ?? (I wouldn't know, I haven't been to one).

Yes I actually paid to go. I paid 140.00 per ticket for the VIP tickets. These included a VIP party with the guys and munchies (chicken wings, etc...) plus we each got a picture taken with the guys. I personally thought the tickets were worth everything I received. We also each got a book signed by them and a little goodie bag. Plus the tickets were front row. Everyone else thinks I'm crazy, but I thought they were worth it and I would pay it again if another show came close to me. I also got to meet Rick, Christian and Steve and Storm (their IT guy). Plus the OCC band was there. It was a good time. I also drove 3 hours to get to this show.

I should also tell you, there were also tickets available for 34.00 dollars. That was the cheapest.

Have never posted here, but I have watched OCC build their bikes since it started. Had to post when I seen that you left the show. Hate to see it, but it's obvious you thought about what you wanted to do and where you wanted to go, and OCC wasn't taking you there. Wish you all the luck in the world, you seem very down to earth and always pulled the rabbit out of the hat when called upon. OCC has lost a great part of their team and a more importantly, a great guy. They also lost a loyal viewer, everyone is NOT replacable. You may find someone who can do their job, but they will never replace them. Again, GL to you Vin in all your future endeavors.

I'm not sad to see Vinnie go. His leaving OCC is only the begining of better things to come for Vinnie. For a guy with his talent and work ethic; OCC was mearly a stepping stone for Vinnie. A smart inverstor would do well to invest in anything Vinnie decides to do.

I cannot believe that OCC would let Vinnie slip out of there hands...
Vinnie was one of the only builders, Him and Rick and how long before he leaves???

Jr hasn't built or help build a bike in about a year. He has become another Mikey, (Daddy take care of me..) and SR saying "EVERYONE IS REPLACEABLE." WTFE good luck replacing Vinnie, the SOUL of the shop is GONE!!!!
I am in the Military and use to have my wife record and send me the episodes when I was deployed... You lost a Loyal FAN and I will HELP spread the word to BOO OCC as Far as I can.
The Tuetels should have done whatever it took to keep Vinnie... Good luck having anyone come out that new Builing to watch Rick build the bikes Jason Designed.

TLC should pull the plug now so there ratings don't rock bottom as well.

Vinnie I hope everything is good with you and your family, everyone here is 100% behind you.

Chief

Yeah, the old man never disapoints when it comes to saying something stupid. "Everyone is replaceable" is a very short sighted philosophy. I wonder if he thinks his customers are replaceable too. I won't buy an over priced OCC bike, but I would buy a DiMartino custom!

I could not believe the callousness that Paul Sr and Jr showed as Vinnie departed...For them not to realize his contribution that he me made over the years to the company and for them to make those comments as he left the building has made me realize Vinnie made the right choice to move on. The Teutles have undoubtedly lost a lot of viewers (including me) by showing what lack value they place in their personnel, not to mention how they treat a friend. If I were their employee, I'd update that resume!!!! Best of luck to you Vinnie!!!! To Paul Jr and Sr, you are right everyone is relaceable and so is my programming selection when your show is on....Sorry Mikey...glad to see one Teutel still has a heart and compassion!

Well hopefully for Vin and Cody, there is something up TLC's sleeve. If not i am sure they will get along fine without OCC.
A lot of people are dumping on the OCC organization, but what we all have to remember is the SR and Jr are living the American dream...Unfortunately when you are in the spotlight your flaws are more visible to an even larger audience and everyone can take shots at you. I am not sticking up for OCC in anyway I not a big fan of their bikes but i do like the show (to a certain extent...)
Vin and Cody all the best to you guys, the show will surely suck with out you guys.
And as for a name for the shop...screw the "custom" or the "chopper" DiMartino Cycles sounds good.

Wow, we got some hating going on today...

I saw the episode just last night where Vinnie decided to leave and I was stunned. Sometimes there's a chemistry between several people that is just not there individually and I think that's what has made OCC a success to date. With Vinnie leaving it's like a member of the Beatles departing (albeit on a lower level); no matter who takes his place it won't be the original OCC. I hope Paul senior is reading some of this, since his boner statement "Everyone is replaceable" was dumber than anything else that's come out of his mouth. You might get another bike builder, but you won't get another Vinnie. Whether you guys want to admit it or not you much more valuable and entertaining as a team, rather than split apart. It's too bad you guys can't work something out; don't throw out the t.v. magic that has developed! Sometimes egos just get too big to fit into the same room.

Wow, I guess I've been out of the loop for a while. I just watched the show last night and was shocked to see Vinnie go. I've always considered myself a fan of the show, but would never have thought about keeping up with the show through a message board. It's just not me. I've never posted on here. Actually I just joined a few minutes ago so I could post something. After watching the show I felt like I needed to talk to someone. Like I had just lost a friend. I called my sister in Colorado who watches the show and that helped.

Vinnie I know everyone on here has said months ago what I'm about to say, but I didn't go through the registration process to just say hello. You and Rick were the only people who I liked watching on the show. My wife watched only because of you and how real you are. She appreciated the fact that family always came first for you.

Thank you for letting us in on your life for a few years. I hope we get to see more from you soon. You'll be missed and I think OCC will soon realize how much they miss their viewers. I feel obligated to watch it because Rick is still there, but maybe now after losing so many viewers and some key employees, the two Pauls will realize they've been too busy seeing green and need to get back to their roots.

I'll miss you Vin, but I hope this gives you a chance to enjoy your family. Take care, God bless and I hope we see you and hear from you soon.

I watched last night and couldn't believe that Vinnie left - I've always thought that Vinnie and Rick were the true stars of the show - they seem real. For the last few shows - Jr has been acting like some over paid Primma Donna- in other words a real jerk. Last nights show was a prime example - Sorry Jr- stop being a jerk and get abck to business - I think I am about done with watching this show. Too much success has gone to your head- your acting likea real clown

First post. Was I hearing things on the one of the last two episodes or did Vinnie murmur something to Rick after JR went off about something ... I thought I heard Vinnie say something like "all this and no Benies....."

Thoughts? I think this sheds a little light on probable causes...

However, unhappy is unhappy and that is the reason. The cause of unhappiness is best left to Vinnie and the parties involved.

All the best to Vinnine, his family, ad the poor and destitute Teutl clan.... poor and destitute from a humanity viewpoint that is.....

Sr. mentions that in 30 years he has found that everyone is replaceable, how sad that neither he nor his equally self-indulged son can't see that Vinnie was a large part of their success. I wish Vinnie the best, if he starts his own show (hint for you Discovery) I will tune in. As for the Teutels I will say this, I agree with Paul Sr., I will find something to do to replace watching your show, as I am no longer a fan.

Hey Vinnie,
With all due respect, I think the reason you left is Sr. & Jr weren’t paying you nearly what you thought you were worth to the show. If this is indeed the reason I agree you should have been compensated focal character money. You carried many shows while the Paul’s were sitting around or away from the shop. I do projects for the show “PINKS” on SpeedTV and Rich the host doesn’t get paid didilly squat although he developed the number one show on Speed. My point is you have all this fame and recognition and OCC probably wasn’t paying you a .001% of their earnings for all the merchandising money or sponsorships they had. All the while you probably felt you helped build the empire by making the show interesting and building the brand for them... What about you? I personally am still in amazement the show has gone on this long. It seems more like a phenomenon than a something that will last forever. How many ways can you build a V-twin and still make it interesting? I used to be a loyal fan but now I can take it or leave it. You and Rick made the craftsmanship part interesting. The Sr./Jr. Drama is for the birds...

Good luck Vin, Get on a fresh show with new ideas and scenery... Maybe CARS!!!!

I signed up just for this I cant tell you the anger going through my viens at the mo.....

1) Snr's everybodys replaceable..... I remember when Vinnie got involed in one off Jnr v Snr battles and Snr called Vinnie in the office to apoligise and in this he said '' I say somethings without thinking it through''

This is one off them I dont think he ment it the way it was portrayed

2) we all saw this coming more and more episodes went by recently when vinnie had personal leave you knew something was up I dont blame vin at all... the way the show looked was Snr/Jnr comes up with a theme, they draw it out vin makes it with little help from Snr/Jnr (there too busy promoting OCC) the bikes finished Snr/Jnr ride the bikes present the bike to the company/charity in a major event while Vin is still in the shop working on the next one... all the work but not much personal satisfaction we all get some satisfaction in our work imagine what its like to be vinnie he may not want the fame but just a simple hey our bike is sick thank you......

3) Has Cody left.... I wonder if theyll show that in the next episode

4) Rick saying call me if anything comes up is that code for ring me when you get your shop up and running Ill join you cause I hate it here too

5) the new OCC headquaters should be renamed to The House That Vinnie Built

6) vinn congratulations for finally breaking free all the best to you and your family in the future

7)Discovery take note off this thred and give vinnie his own show you know it makes sense

[quote]Good luck Vin, Get on a fresh show with new ideas and scenery... Maybe CARS!!!![/quote]

Would be a great idea but you will never see it. Because senior is suing Vinnie to keep him off any other TV shows. He knows he was one of the main reasons people watched the show.

Do you know that for sure? Who's your source? Not to be snippy, but there are a few people (namely 2) who think they are in the know and they are not smart enough to figure out that they are being played. No offense, but this is how rumors start and hard feelings and burned bridges are the result.

If they are reading this board (and I do believe someone is monitoring it, not necessarily them, but someone paid by them) they know that there are a lot of unhappy people.

However, we still do not know the full story. Vinnie said himself that he was unhappy. He probably could not say more and why would he want to? It's really none of our business. I'm very sorry to see him go, but plain and simple, it was his choice to go. I think that people get so caught up in the show (myself included) that we think we know everything that goes on. We should all take a step back and realize that we are fans, but this is old news to them - this happened months ago. Who's to say what's happened since then.

I have heard that this will be the last season for AC - all good things must come to an end. In the end, years from now when it's all over and forgotten, they will still be living their lives and we will still be living ours. I don't think much will change in the way they act or present themselves. But they are being who they are like it or not.

Senior is right, everyone is replaceable, however I do not think they can replace the person, only the position. No one will bring what Vinnie brought - and that's what makes him special. So Thanks Vinnie - Good luck in all you do.

fuelsono brings up a point? How much was Vinny making on merchandise? I was just looking at a huge OCC book at the book store. Vinny's image was here and there in the book along with Rick.

Maybe Vinny made just enough to make the next step in his life?